I'm getting ready to install a generator interlock on my breaker panel. The style panel I have requires a blank space under the generator breaker for the interlock to operate correctly. The nearest location for me to move the breaker that is in that spot is further than the conducter will reach. My question is- can I simply move the breaker to the needed location and make an extension out of the same gauge wire and connect it with a wire nut?
Moving a breaker.
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Omg... although your avatar is very intriguing, when I view posts made by you at work, I wonder if anyone happens to notice that as well...
I can't read your post right now as it's scrolled up hiding your avatar.
Yea yea yea. I should prob be working, but my job is ******. I'll look again later at home...
I can't read your post right now as it's scrolled up hiding your avatar.
Yea yea yea. I should prob be working, but my job is ******. I'll look again later at home...
pattenp
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Yes you can splice on an extension using a wire nut. Can you jockey all the breakers so not to have a splice?
Rookie2
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I don't care.... I want a copy of your avatar ! lol
G_P
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allinon72
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I was under the impression that these types of splices inside the box were frowned upon. That said, I have several in my house (old)
Rookie2
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what was i thinking ? she would probably kill me.
its a don't ask don't tell on the wire nut. i believe to be legal you would have to make the connection in a box outside the panel.
its a don't ask don't tell on the wire nut. i believe to be legal you would have to make the connection in a box outside the panel.
pattenp
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It is approved to have splices in the overcurrent device enclosure. 2011 NEC 312.8.
Highbeam
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Nut in her box?
Yep, I found that article and it does mention this. Thank- you!
ishiboo
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I tried a brief search, but I couldn't find any more images of her. Maybe someone that is more computer savvy could?
Google Images at your service.
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ishiboo
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And yes, nut it in the box... perfectly legal.
Speedy Petey
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The "code" not allowing splices in a panel gutter space can be found in the Urban Legend Code.
rburke65
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Wow.....wonder how many guys.....women.....have just saved that image.?
Sureshot
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I have been assimilated and I feel funny all over.
Vince1955
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A quick and easy solution would be what you're suggesting, but in the long run, disconnect the black, white and ground - pull the wires out of the breaker box and use an external junction box. Make your splice in the ext. junction box then run a new section of Romex back into the breaker box and reconnect the three wires accordingly. This will remove any potential "HOT" wire from coming loose, shorting itself, or electrifying the metal breaker box. Just to be on the safe side.
The "code" not allowing splices in a panel gutter space can be found in the Urban Legend Code.
Yup. I thought that until a real sparky set me straight. Splice to feed two wires into a breaker ok, two wires into the breaker not ok (unless the breaker is specifically rated for it).
Are we confused yet?
Alchymist
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"Electrifying" the metal breaker box? Not likely.
BD1
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ME TOO ! Could you enlarge your avatar to 8 1/2'' x 11'' ?? Self image ??
I never read what you wrote, hope others will help. Sorry I'm getting old.
A splice in the gutter in a panel & two wires under a lug are two different beasts, the former is permitted by code, the latter is a listing violation, which in turn is a code violation because the NEC requires listing & labeling instructions be followed.
The only breakers I am sure that 2 wires under a lug is allowed is, SQ D QO 15 & 20A models. HOM may be allowed also.