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Moving things in your shop?

raferguson

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I am fishing for ideas and comments. My goal for my new shop is to have everything on wheels, more or less. I am probably halfway there right now. I was talking about shop design with a friend, and he said he has 80% of the tools in his shop on wheels.

I am thinking about the question of whether it makes sense to put wheels on everything in the shop, vs. some other way of moving things around. Or maybe only some things should have wheels.

For example, I have a small propane forge. Right now I pick it up and put it on a metal bench, due to space limitations. Should I build a base and put wheels on it? Four casters? Two fixed wheels and then tilt it to move it? Just design the stand so that I use a two wheel dolly to move it? A similar story for my wood planer, which is heavy to pick up and move around.

The large toolboxes, and full sized benches, sure, they should have four wheels. I am mostly thinking about things that are smaller.

I have seen setups that have two wheels that mount to the side of the leg, where the wheel is not really touching until you tilt the unit. That would be like a two wheel dolly permanently installed on the legs. But I could imagine hitting the wheels, which would stick out, so perhaps the regular two wheel dolly is a better way to go. A variation on that theme is to have two non-swivel wheels on one end, with feet and a handle on the other end. To move it, you pick up on the handle. Or perhaps tilt it back like a two wheel dolly. OK if it is not too heavy

My friend has a large table saw, placed on a mobile base, such that you step on a pedal and the weight transfers from feet to wheels. No loss of stability, but of course the mobile base extends beyond the base of the tool.

On a related question, if there are four casters, how do you keep a tool or bench from moving? Most caster locks don't keep the caster from swiveling. I have seen floor locks that look like they would be stable, push on a pedal and a foot goes down.

Of course, if you have a large shop and a forklift, you can move things on a pallet, or machines designed to be lifted that way, but I don't see me needing a forklift. The heavier and larger the thing is, the more sense the forklift makes. A pallet jack is the poor man's forklift, more maneuverable, takes up less space.

The furniture movers use furniture dollies. One could jack up a heavy load, and then put a furniture dolly under it. I moved a large cabinet that way, used a scissor jack to get it high enough, and then slid the furniture dolly under it. It sure was an elegant and easy way to move something that was quite large and heavy.

Perhaps the most important thing is to consider how you will move something, as part of the design. In other words, you need a plan before you start. ;-)

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Richard
 
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OccupantRJ

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A pallet jack works well. On tables that have legs, install cross bars from leg to leg in a perimeter fashion. This will stabilize the legs and allow a pallet jack to easily lift and move the table. Fastening 4x4 to underside of larger machines will accomplish the same.
 

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My tractor and front end loader with pallet forks on it to move heavy items around the shop. When I bought my new 44" roller cabinet and got it home in the back of my pickup truck, I just took it off the truck by myself with the pallet forks and bought into the shop. To take the pallet off under the box I lifted one end very carefully one end of the tool box busted the pallet down then repeated on the other side and wheeled it off the remains.

My work bench weighs close to 300 pounds I simply got in near the position I wanted by moving it with the pallet forks and lowered and then just shoved it the rest of the way into the location I wanted it at.

When I got my leaf and lawn vacuum, yep I took it off the pickup with the pallet forks and a strap.
 

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Every tool and bench I have is on locking swivel casters. BOTH ends. It gets a lil squirrely going straight but sneaking sideways is a blessing if you don't have much room. My toolboxes swivel on one end only. Too tall to push sideways.I have to " parallel park" those but they seldom move. Just Sat AM when we clean the two shops and do punch-material lists.
 

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I use pallet jack on some too.



I second that. Bought a cheapo from Harbor Freight about 10 years ago on sale for $179 . Been good service (the neoprene coating on large wheels cracked off) but otherwise it's been real handy on moving large machines.


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I have probably a dozen or more pieces, nut bolt bin, air comps, shelves and use boxes as all kind of temp jigs that use a jack to move. Dozens, maybe hundreds of rig ups.
 

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strength_and_power

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Pallet jacks are a wonderful tool. The standard pallet jack is around 28" wide with 48" long forks. U-line and other places sell a smaller jack that is only 20" wide. Makes it a lot easier to maneuver and takes less space. 5,500# capacity.


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I grabbed a pallet jack of of CL when I moved 4 yrs ago. Figured I'd use it for a couple weeks and sell it for what I paid. One of the best additions to my shop. Every thing is on a custom pallet or 4x4. I can move my lathe or 1000# cabinets easily. Tablesaw goes outside for messy work etc. For what good casters go for, you can get a nice used pallet jack.
 

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I picked up a Pallet Jack at HF more than 10 yrs ago. I could never have moved a lot of my stuff without it.
 
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I have my radial arm saw on an probably 30 yr old cabinet w/ wheels. Two fixed and two caster and all four lock. Last year I bought a cheap tool box from sears for my belt sander.
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-3-4-...SellerId=Sears&prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5
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http://www.garage-organization.com/...MIjO6HuLuG1gIVUEsNCh2FoQNaEAYYAyABEgKPrPD_BwE
Wait til they have a sale. Works great to move the sander to the garage door when I will be making a lot of dust. Extra belts and discs go in the top drawer and the other two drawers hold semi related tools.
 

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Here I thought I was going to be the only guy that recommended a pallet jack. Guess not.

Build a custom base for each item you want mobile. Can be metal or wood, can even be an actual pallet if you choose. Cheap pallet jacks are everywhere.
 

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I keep HF furniture dollies handy in my shop. In fact, I dedicated a small one to my pancake compressor. When it gets in the way, I can (gently) kick it around.
 

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Most of the stuff in my shop is on wheels, but I second the HF furniture dollies. I roll cars around on them, use them for engine storage and all kinds of stuff. I've had some extreme weight on them, they seem to hold up just fine.
 

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I use the jack, have a lot of other stuff on wheels.
 

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I use Powertec push down and locking casters. But I'm in a small garage workshop with lots of different tools to move around. I'm building pull out shelves to store my bench top tools on, and I'll build a cart at the same height where I can slide the tool off the shelf and onto the cart with minimal lifting. Some items will be on their own cart, but with the same Powertec casters.
With limited space, I have to stick with bench top tools instead of "real" tools. By shopping carefully and spending a little more, quality can be found.
 

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I bought a pallet ******** CL for $50. It was left outside and stuck in a pumped up position. Stripped it down, new axles and front rollers and paint. I made risers for most of my shop stuff. Pallet jack easily picks up and moves around the shop.
I also have a hydraulic lift table (CL $125). Great to retrieve stuff from pickup bed and move to bench.
 

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Strouty

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I have some back issues, so I don't like to lift heavy things unless I have to. I use a combination of wheels, pallet jack, lift table and forklift. If things are not on wheels, they either have a base designed for forks or a pallet jack. I even did this with my air compressor. The one thing I will say is find a smaller pallet jack, mine is only 36" long and it is much easier to maneuver in a smaller shop. Also storage is easier, I can't think of a time that the shorter marks have hurt me. My forklift has 36", 42", and 60" forks. I use the 36" most of the time.

I am interested in trying out some of the feet that adjust to lift the item off its casters, seems like they could be great for certain things.
 

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Most of my heavy shop items are on 4" or larger locking swivel casters from home depot. They carry lot's of weight and roll over cords and cracks on the garage floor.

Rockler woodworking sells a "workbench" wheel set. Mounted to the side of a table or cabinet leg and step down and it moves and locks down so you can wheel the table around the shop. Step on it again and the caster moves up and the table leg sits on the floor. They are pricey but worth it. Don't use the screws that come with the wheel kit. Buy large lag bolt instead.

A pallaet jack will also work but you need room to store the large pallet rack and it takes up valuable floor space.
 

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Good thread Richard.

The large toolboxes, and full sized benches, sure, they should have four wheels. I am mostly thinking about things that are smaller.

The smaller stuff... like a miter saw for instance, are the back breakers, IMO. I've got a Hitachi, it only weighs about 50 lbs, but there's really no good way for one fella to pick it up.

And, as we get older, these things can be back breakers.

I put 2 wheels and some retractable arms on my grandpa's ole DeWalt radial arm saw. Basically tilt it up and roll it around. Works pretty good.

 

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I bought one of these....

https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-60438.html

1000lb lift table... I tore the rubber off the top, and mounted 2 pieces of 1/2" plywood to the top to make the table bigger... I think its now 2' wide x 3' long.

The lowest itll go is about 8-10" off the floor which kinda *****, but it has worked well for moving all sort of stuff around my shop in the last 2 months.
 

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I have swivel casters a the corners of everything.
(Often modified HF dollies.)
If they are not locking ones, I have a collection of sand bags to throw at them to keep them from walking.
 
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