My dream 60x96x16

[NUTTSGT]

Next week is going to be the test for the new heating system. BRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[iajonesy]

I've followed this thread from the beginning and I too want to say that this is an awesome shop. More importantly,it's nice to see someone that is truely thankful for the blessings he has been given. Many times we (me) forget that none of what I have or who I am would be possible without God's gifts. Have a great New Year.

Mike

 

[Sims5]

iajonesy.
Thank you for seeing my thoughts thru my posts. Definite everything we have is a gift from God!

NuttsGT.
Agree, next Tues forecast doesn't excite me!


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[Sims5]

I was asked via pm about the lights in my building.

There are 15 six lamp t5 high output fixtures in 5 rows of 3. They are approximately 16' on centers with the row near the overhead doors mounted so when the doors are open they don't block the lights. The first two rows (6 lights) and the rear two rows (6 lights) are on individual switches. The remaining 3 lights in the center of building are on a switch and also hooked to motion sensor to come on when the overhead doors are opened. The diagram below is what I gave the electrician. The dimensions are approximate and I didn't verify after he installed. He mounted the front and rear rows and then spaced the other three rows evenly. Hope that makes since. The switch groups were changed after I drew this diagram. The first switch when I come in the door turns on the row of 3. Did this, so I was turning on a minimal amount of lights just to find something quickly.

 

[MSD Shop]

Man , this helps me a bunch, thank you. I'm struggling with how many, what kind and where to attach them.

 

[Sims5]

MSD shop
Your welcome. With your taller ceilings, these 6 lamp t5's would work great better than they do in mine. I believe they are really designed for 20' ceilings, however I'm very happy with them in mine at 16'.
I sure wish Oregon was closer to Ohio. I'd love to see your finished building on person. Guess I'll just have to admire the pics from afar.

Drool on an iPad is hazardous though, Haha!

 

[luke7734]

Looking good!! Getting frigid today / and ARCTIC tonight!! crank that heat brother.. I've got a bunch of Hickory stacked beside the burner for tonight.. need some long burns to keep me from going out twice in the middle of the night. True test (coldest it's been in 20+ years tonight -18F (wind chill near -50F) goodness..

 

[Sims5]

Luke7734,
It's a frigid 7* here and building is 63* with a floor temp of 59*. That's actually warmer than I want. Need to fine tune it some.

 

[cmoist]

Looks great. What a huge space. It looks like the metal walls go a long way towards helping reflect light.

-8 today on the way to work down here. Brrr.

 

[ChrisCrane]

Im not sure if i missed it or not but what size and lengths are you using for the radiant heat?

 

[69bigblok]

Wow that is incredible! Very happy for you and enjoy your new space. Looking forward to seeing more.

 

[Sims5]

4368' of 5/8" tubing on 18" centers with 300' +/- 15'

Thanks guys for the compliments. Getting some condensation on my West wall, where the wind is coming from. It's -13* outside. I currently have building set at 57* with floor minimum at 55*. Texted the insulation guy and he's going have their tech expert call me tomorrow. He says the humidity level could be high still, maybe concrete is still curing. The cheap thermometer on the wall says humidity is 30%. That should be an interesting conversation.

 

[SpeedinLemon]

Hi Sims and welcome to GJ! Thanks for sharing your build...it's fun to ride along as someone's dreams are coming true and especially nice when the glory and thanksgiving is properly placed with God. You've obviously got a well thought out plan and looks like you've got some top-notch help to execute it. Nice attention to details all the way around... That truck sure looks small in the middle of the pad....looking forward to seeing it inside. I guess with the weather you guys are having this week, not much is moving around though? I hope the condensation issue turns out to be just a function of the record setting weather and not an ongoing headache. What are your plans for work benches/storage and the rest of the interior?

Congrats and thanks for sharing!

Chris

PS...The savings on gas by not having so much yard to mow idea needs to be in the Top Reasons to Convince the Wife I Need to Build a Shop Hall of Fame....Classic!

 

[Sims5]

SpeedInLemon
Thanks for the compliments. I've been dreaming about a building like this for 10+ years and thought about the details multiple times. A year from now I'll probably wish I would have done something different, but for now I'm happy!
You are correct, with the artic temps the last two days my truck has stayed in the shop. Hopefully tomorrow I'll be back out on the road.
I have a friend that owns a fab shop and I'm probably going to have him make a couple steel benches 10'x2' and maybe a table on casters 4'x4'.

I'm thinking the humidity level is still pretty high in the building which is causing sweating on the walls and ceiling.




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[MSD Shop]

Sims5 , and I thought I was putting alot of outlets in, holy cow! You can never have enough power.

I would bet that moisture is from your concrete and not your wall.

 

[Sims5]

MSD shop
Never enough outlets is right! If you are looking at my diagram then your not seeing all of them, LoL. We added more during the build. I believe with loft, mechanical room, and bathroom we ended up with 32 inside and 4 outside. The ones inside are on multiple circuits especially in the area where my workbench will go.
I think your probably right about my moisture issue, just don't like how it's showing up at ceiling in spot and shape of where the baffles are along the eaves.
Next step is epoxy for the floor. Thinking I'm going wait a while and let the humidity level come down some.

 

[Blackhawks63]

I would not epoxy a floor that large, plus given that you park heavy duty trucks in that garage. An awful lot of work and expense to put down expense, and I think you would be disapppointed on how it held up over the years. Just my two cents.

I really like your build a lot. Kudos.

 

[Sims5]

Can you expand on your thoughts?

Why is my space too large for epoxy?
Do you not think epoxy will not handle truck traffic with possible fork lift traffic?

 

[MSD Shop]

I too am doing epoxy on my floor and I did it on my last shop 40x60. If prepped properly, i.e. - muratic acid - spelled wrong , the entire floor, let the concrete cure atleast 30 days at 50 + degrees before aci. Then wash the floor with soap and water after acid, let that cure for 48 hours at 50 + degrees. Then paint your epoxy color on, 70 + degrees preferred, do several coats, letting each coat dry for 24 hours. Then do several coats of clear epoxy also letting 24 hours pass between coats. I did mine over about a 14 days stretch. When I sold the house the floor was 8 years old, heavy use, trucks, cars and lots of work. I have 2 spots the size of silver dollars on the outside edge that pealed where I did not prep well enough. I will not make that mistake again.

 

[luke7734]

How'd she fare overnight?? you should have slept in it so you can hear all of the creaking and moaning the metal does when it's this cold.. insane..

 

[Sims5]

My system has outside temp, floor temp, and room temp. When we turned system on last Thurs I wanted room temp at 58* since I'm really not using it yet. The room temp got as high as 67* so the installer came yesterday and we got to looking and found that the floor temp was set to high and it was continually calling for heat. Turned it down to 54* and room set at 55* and it's working nice now. Still have sweating on the walls but I think that's due to the new concrete and a high humidity level. I shot the inside of the steel by the man door and it was 43* and then went outside in the same spot and it was -11*. I'm sure the wall temp would be higher if I turned the temp up on the boiler, just no reason for now. I'd say the r21 is working pretty good. I set up a box fan to move some air, hopefully that helps with the humidity level. 30-40* this weekend will probably feel like Spring!

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[MSD Shop]

That is a great test and some damn good numbers. I will have to try that with mine when I get it sealed up and heat working.

 

[TRayRyan]

Congrats on your massive garage. Just curious if your space is solely heated by the radiating floor heating, or if you have any other additional heat sources? Will you have any reason to cool the building at all?

 

[Sims5]

TRayRyan
The entire area is heated by a 155,000btu LP boiler with 4368' of 5/8" tubing on 18" centers. A few of the runs are a little closer in front of the overhead doors. I will not be utilizing air conditioning for this space. If you look back thru previous posts you will see several pictures showing the tubing under the slab and the boiler. 3/8" double bubble under the slab, r21 in walls, and r38 blown in the attic. The walls were wrapped with tyvek before exterior steel was installed.

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

 

[Sims5]

I'm thinking I might wait till "Spring" to do the epoxy floor so I can have the doors open. Don't think it would look right to not take the epoxy out past the doors, and it's just to cold to keep the doors open. Wonder if I masked it off inside the door and then finished the rest once the weather was warmer. Think you'd see a seam or look bad?
Might be even better to let the concrete really cure out good too. I guess I've waited this long for my building what's another couple months.



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[luke7734]

Are you going to have the floor diamond ground before doing the epoxy? Have you picked a color??

I love the look of natural concrete too much to cover it.. plus oil spots and tire marks just make me feel like I've been doing something in my shop. .

Looks like the insulation is doing what it's intended for. I get tons of moisture in my building with it being closed cell insulated. But I have a big floor drain so it helps move fresh air. My living area windows almost always have dew on the corners. But my skin is oh so soft I've been noticing.. hopefully I just don't get mold.. I've been watching..

 

[Sims5]

Planning on muratic acid instead of diamond grinding. Probably be a light gray with black and white flake.
Letting the concrete cure longer is probably a good idea. No reason to get in a hurry now.

 

[hazexban]

Just chiming in to say that is an AWESOME space. We need to see a picture of the RV in there to really appreciate the size or at least I am interested to see how she fits in there.

Great work with everything. And the trucks really look great, nice job promoting your business as top notch. A lot of Septic Pumping trucks out here look like the work they do.

Pete

 

[Sims5]

Thanks Pete. I'll be sure to have some "Move-in day Pics". Probably be a couple months, weather permitting! Thanks for the compliment on our trucks. Two reasons they look the way they do, pride and so you notice them.

 

[Alexbn921]

Awsome. Great job on the shop and keep the updates coming. I wish I had 1/4 of that space for my shop.

 

[vr4joe]

SUBSCRIBED! This shop is amazing!

 

[Filson]

Amazing shop! I love how well everything was thought out, you did great! Subscribed.

 

[Sims5]

Thank you all for the for the compliments. I really enjoy planning and working out the details of this build.

"Everything has a place and there is a place for everything"

 

[flaco11a]

very very nice. im from bellvile ohio. who did you use to build the barn?

 

[Sims5]

Miller Bros Construction did the building and Ruggles Electric did the electric, plumbing, and the boiler.

 

[Sims5]

Good Monday morning to you!

 

[MSD Shop]

Beautiful sunrise, looked similar at our house. Nice to see after the snow we have had the last few days. Keep the pics coming.

 

[cj7jeep81]

Started on interior 12/6/13

Insulation going up

First off, beautiful building.

Quick question on this. I am planning on a very similar 40x64x16 pole building in the spring (perma columns, laminates posts, etc). Just to make sure, looks like you had standard pole barn framing (posts 8' or so on center, and horizontal 2x4 girts on the outside).

Did you just stack up the 24" wide insulation batts in the middle (2 8' batts on top of each other), and put up 2x4 horizontal girts on the inside? So no framing between the posts?

This would be considerably cheaper than what I was planning (basically building a 2x6 wall inside the posts). Any issues with the insulation sagging/falling?

And if I'm correct, is there anything between the insulation and the concrete floor? Or just put the insulation all the way down?

 

[Sims5]

My posts are on 8' centers and on exterior, the horizontal nailers are 2x6's and on interior the bottom board (for receptacles) is a 2x6 and the rest are 2x4.

 

[Sims5]

The insulation is all the way to the floor also. Let me know if you have any other questions.