My fabrication shop. YEAH!

[JaysinSpaceman]

Well I have lurked on this site for a while but I thought that I would finally share some pictures of the shop I have been building. It has been entirely built by my wife, father and myself and one hard week of work from my father in-law, sister in-law and her husband.

It is 24' X 36' which is not as big as I would like but it was what I could afford and what I could fit in this spot. It has a clerestory to let light in and vent hot air (my mother's Idea). And the center post will eventually have a crane hanging from it, and before people ask it was engineered for it (but the building dept. doesn't know so don't tell, shhhh!). The little windows in the wall will get some old stained glass windows that were removed from buildings that were torn down (mostly for aesthetics but also a little more light). We've gotten this far in about 4 months and we will be starting the roofing and wiring this weekend.

 

[tdkkart]

Other than the apparent miscalculations on the roof angles it looks pretty good.
24 x36 is a nice size for a single stall fab room. Big enough to have space, small enough not to collect a bunch of ****.

Next time have the same guy do both sides of the roof............

 

[TejasBimmer]

Looks great to me...not the typical garage style...the use of the long over hangs will help keep the heat down on the South wall.
Go you have a layout of the interior and what you have planned?

 

[Bib Overalls]

I like it! The clerestory is a nice feature. Good natural lite without the security risks of conventional wall windows. Your Mom is a sharp cookie!

 

[JohnK007]

How about some interior shots when you can find the time? I'm really interested in how you framed that roof. The more I look at it the better i like it!

 

[Bevis]

Looks like it's coming together...Like the roof too.

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

I'll get some interior shots tomorrow. We worked on the electrical and roof stuff all weekend. The roof was a bit of a chore, I did all the design work myself and when I went to the building dept. they made me get it engineered as it was larger then standard dimensional lumber (ie. 5 1/8" x 16 1/2" gluelam). Luckily I have an engineer friend and he did all the calculations for me, on the cheap. In the long run it will be all worth it as it lets in a huge amount of natural light and I will be building transom windows for the clerestory that will give me great ventilation. Thanx for the positive feedback, it has been a lot of work for us and it's nice to get others' input.

Jaysin

 

[Jpfreak33]

I LOVE IT!!! I made my shed in that style and I love it. Wish I had the space to build something that big. I will someday once I get out of a subdivision.

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

So I said that I would get you some interior shots and some shots of the roof framing. Here they are.

And here is a bit more detail of the clerestory framing.

You can see that the rear 2x12 goes over the ridge beam and the front 2x12 butts into the side of the ridge beam.The upper clerestory part is effectively just an overhang of the rear roof at the top of the peak.

In the first and third picture you can also see the steel blocking that I made above the ridge beam. I didn't want solid wood blocking as it would stop the light from coming in over the ridge beam from the clerestory opening and I wanted all of the natural light that I could get.

Hope you like it.
Jaysin

 

[JohnK007]

"clerestory". I learned a new word today, thanks!! Great idea with the steel blocking Jaysin. It's obvious you did some thinking and done your homework. Nice job!

 

[JCByrd24]

That thing is stout...great looking non-traditional shop space.

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

JohnK007~ Thanx, I put a lot of time into the design part. I drew all the plans myself on AutoCAD and then had a engineer friend do the calcs for it. To tell the truth though, the steel open blocking was something I came up with after it was framed and had to go back to my engineer to make sure they would. He saw no problem with them as they are ten times stronger then wood that they replaced.

JCByrd24~ It's stout mostly because of the 40lb snow load rating that the roof has to have. I dig non-traditional work spaces, lots of natural light and good open ceilings (something that trad. work spaces are often lacking). If you are going to be in your work space 8-12 hours a day then it needs to be a place that you LIKE to be.

Well, I finished running all the conduit today and we will wire it this weekend, then I just have to finish dealing with the Power Co., I think that they are going to give me a second drop with it's own meter as the house power supply just wont cut it. Thanx for the good responses.

Jaysin

 

[PAToyota]

Very nice space - I can just imagine working in that! Looking forward to watching it come together for you.

 

[GSSFC]

I know why it is there, but why did you design it with the huge post in the middle? Seems that would get in the way?

Tim

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

With out the post I would have needed to go with trusses and that makes the clerestory sort of out of the question or the ridge beam would have had to be 8"x26" to span the 36' and the doors could not have been in the end walls. Unfortunately there are always compromises to be made and the post was reasonable what with the fact that I could turn it into a plus and hang a crane on it. The 40lbs/sq.ft. snow load is the biggest obstacle that I had to deal with in this design next only to the terrain/layout(hence the reason the doors needed to be in the end walls).

 

[tatra]

i have been suggesting this design for years to friends and only after they build do they see the advantages and wish they had done it ...........never knew the correct word and so i thank you for sharing your build and edycating me on the correct term........and a jib hoist is nice to have..........thanks again

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

tatra, Your welcome and thank You. I have always been happier outside and have never liked working under florescent lighting so it made sense to add the clerestory for the natural light. I have a friend that told me to go with skylights because they would be cheaper but in every house that I have seen skylights in I have also seen leaks, not to say that they are a bad Idea but they require up keep and I have never liked cutting holes in my roof.

 

[ordf]

Good, creative thinking! I really like the style of your garage and wish you many good hours in there.

Another interesting thing is to see the differences in the way garages are built (from a materials and technical point of view) in USA and Sweden (my home country). This goes for the other American garages in this forum too, of course.

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

Good, creative thinking! I really like the style of your garage and wish you many good hours in there.

Another interesting thing is to see the differences in the way garages are built (from a materials and technical point of view) in USA and Sweden (my home country). This goes for the other American garages in this forum too, of course.

Thanx, I'm looking forward to being able work in it soon.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on how this would have been done in Sweden and what types of materials would have been used. I have read a few articles about architecture in Sweden and the designs that are being thought up over there are pretty wild and forward thinking, some fascinating stuff. If you would give us a quick description.



On other notes, we pulled over half of the wire this weekend and installed the outside panel for the meter, all went well with only one minor setback. My father who knows more about electrical then a lot of electricians is also red/green color blind and brought up a big old roll of Grey wire for us to use as the GREEN ground wire. The whole colorblind thing is also why he couldn't do electronic repair for the armed forces back in the late 60's. Must ****.

I also installed about half of my roof insulation in 101 degree weather, OH Joy! I hope to finish it up this week as it is supposed to be cooler.

Thanx for the interest in my building. Jaysin

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

So I just thought that I would give a little update. We finished all the interior electrical and everything except the exterior lighting (and that's because I haven't built the lights yet) is wired. I have PG&E set up to drop the main power and just waiting for them so I can have real power, just temp power right now, enough to test circuits out. The lights work!!

I placed all the insulation on the roof and have tar paper on half of it. I used 2" rigid foam, R12.9, under the roofing and above the sheeting because the interior of the ceiling will be open and I didn't want to look at a bunch of batten material for the rest of my days. The corrugated roofing and all the flashing have been ordered and should be here in 1-2 weeks then the fun of installing it begins. Just hope the rain stays away long enough to get the roof sealed up.

I am working on the clerestory windows. Figuring out the custom casings and the mechanism for making them open, transom style, like the old school windows. I think that we have it, but I need to construct a mock up so I know they work before I order the glass. I am also working on the small lower wall windows and I hope to have a picture of them for you soon.

The last details of a building are always slow, especially when you are trying to save money and doing it all yourself.

Jaysin

 

[dodgepolara500]

Nice looking shop! With the post, will you be able to have a couple of cars in there?

I also see you mentioned PG&E. You must be somewhere in California!

John

 

[Stuey]

Wow, nice!

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

Nice looking shop! With the post, will you be able to have a couple of cars in there?

I also see you mentioned PG&E. You must be somewhere in California!

John

John, I laid it out so that I have a 20' side and a 16' side. Most of what I do is hot rod stuff and the early cars a pretty short so I should be able to have a constant project on the 16' end and still be able to get the '99 Silverado in on the 20' end for oil changes and whatnot. I don't know if you read all the way through but the post will eventually have a crane swinging from it, it was engineered with a 2500lb capacity in mind and I figure the most I'll ever try to lift is 1000-1200lbs. I'm glad you like it, I feel that it will be a really nice workspace once it's finished.

Jaysin

 

[tigmusky]

Pretty cool. keep posting the pixs. Can't wait to see the end result.
nice shop daye

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

Well, time for another small installment. The visible progress has slowed a bit as it always does in the finish type work but a few cool things happened this weekend. For one the hole in the floor around the base of the post is now filled. Thanks in no small part to the expertise of my wife (she's watching over my shoulder as I type this, hehe).

I decided to dye the concrete red so that I am less likely to run into the thing while walking around the shop not paying attention to where I am going (believe me it happens often as I tend to think more about what I'm doing then where I'm going). It turned out pretty well and I think that the color looks great in an otherwise grey floor.

Next, and more exciting are the small stained glass windows that are in the walls. I bought the windows unrestored from an antique shop in Sacramento that had gotten them from area buildings that were being torn down. I don't know any history about them other than the fact that they came from Sac.

Here are some close-ups of the three that are hard to see in the first picture.

Sorry you had to see my ugly mug in the last one but somehow I managed to get in the shot. Most of the windows needed some repair and luckily my Grandmother used to do stained glass work so I had some of the tools and a bit of knowledge left over from her teaching me the art when I was a boy. This is the sort of reason you should never turn down the chance to learn something new, maybe just maybe one day it will come in handy and save you a boat load of money, and give you a sense of pride in doing your part of the project. And again, my beautiful wife also spent hours cleaning the old glass of years of paint and neglect with a razor and she is the reason that they are as bright and shiny as they are, all I really did is make them structurally sound (and yes she is still watching over my shoulder).

'Till next time.

Jaysin

 

[fireguy]

Other than the apparent miscalculations on the roof angles it looks pretty good.
24 x36 is a nice size for a single stall fab room. Big enough to have space, small enough not to collect a bunch of ****.

Next time have the same guy do both sides of the roof............

Maybe the same guy did do both sides of the roof. The problem was the same guy did not build both walls. Or he used a foot tape on one wall & a metric tape on the other wall.

I like the clestory, lets in light and keeps prying eyes from scoping out the goodies inside.

 

[PAToyota]

Great project! I like the little details of color and the windows - really sets things apart from the run-of-the-mill stuff.

 

[elect]

the stained glass is incredible! Gives the place an old time feel I REALLY LIKE.

 

[akdiesel]

That is a wise statement.
Your shop is looking great, it has an intriguing layout. It would be interesting to see if you can get or fab a 360 deg jib crane onto the center pole.

 

[kbs2244]

It may be a little late from what I see in the PICs, but something the older churches around here have done with their old single thickness stained glass windows is just put a outer pane right on top of the multi piece pane.
It dose dim the look of the colors from the outside, but the look from the inside is the same and it stops a whole lot of cold drafts off the windows.

I will be waiting to see with what you come up with for opening those upper windows.
I like the idea of light from above but have always been afraid of skylight leaks.

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

It may be a little late from what I see in the PICs, but something the older churches around here have done with their old single thickness stained glass windows is just put a outer pane right on top of the multi piece pane.
It dose dim the look of the colors from the outside, but the look from the inside is the same and it stops a whole lot of cold drafts off the windows.

Well the building department here requires that one pane of glass be tempered so the little window casings for the stained glass were built in such a way that a piece of tempered glass will be set on the outside of them, stopping the drafts and meeting the code all at once.

Akdiesel~ As of now the jib crane that I am planning to build would swing 360 except that I plan to make it longer then the short distance between the post and wall (the post is not centered) so that I have more reach on the up hill side of the shop. In all reality I think that the reach is more important then the capability to swing 360. As I have the design now it will swing about 310-320 degrees.

Thanx for all the kind words everybody.

Jaysin

 

[akdiesel]

Can't wait to see the final set up.

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

So here's another small installment in my construction project. I put all the roof insulation down along with the tar paper and finally installed the roofing with the help of my father and father in-law. Here's a few shots of how it went and how it turned out.

20' lengths of corrugated metal are really fun to handle.

Here's the last sheet going down and if you can't tell by the darkness it had been a LONG day.

This weekend my wife, father, mother and I painted (actually stained) and it turned out very nice if I do say so myself. But you'll just have to wait because I don't have the pictures off my camera yet. So that will be something to look forward to.

Now that the paint is done I can get the trim and flashing up and it will start to look like a finished building.

My clerestory glass should be in shortly so we'll be able to start on that adventure soon.

Until next time.
Jaysin

 

[scofo]

Not only is the shop beautiful but the fact it is such a family effort will bring happy memories.

 

[autoist]

Beautiful....how ya gonna keep wasps from flying up under the tin?

 

[Vicegrip]

Very nice. With the light and stained glass you have The First Church of Hot Rod.

 

[porschedude996TT]

Looks great. I must ask why the pole in the center of the shop? Would not a larger beam or a glue-laminate beam that spaned the whole lenght worked better? Just thinking...

 

[JaysinSpaceman]

Not only is the shop beautiful but the fact it is such a family effort will bring happy memories.

Family has always been important to me and it is wonderful that they are so willing to help, I couldn't get it finished if not for them.

Beautiful....how ya gonna keep wasps from flying up under the tin?

I have some of that wavy spacer strip stuff that will go up with the flashing. The places that I don't have a shaped spacer to fill the holes I will most likely use expanding foam.

Very nice. With the light and stained glass you have The First Church of Hot Rod.

That was my exact thought when I finally installed the stained glass windows.

Looks great. I must ask why the pole in the center of the shop? Would not a larger beam or a glue-laminate beam that spaned the whole lenght worked better? Just thinking...

I think I said before that the post will eventually have a crane swinging from it and because of the 40lbs snow load requirement I have here the ridge beam would have had to be twice the size it is now and I already have a 5x16.5 gluelam. And the two doors in the end walls would have needed to be in the side walls instead, there are always compromises to be made and the post will work well for me (especially once the crane is built).

Thanx for all the good thoughts. I'll have more pictures for you soon.

Jaysin

 

[cyclopsblown34]

Cool build Jaysin. You gonna call it First Church of Hot Rod?

 

[Hardware]

Neat Build. Love the Stained Glass