My New Garage Build

[d110pickup]

How did you seal around your doors on rollers?

Well . . . . . . . I haven't done that yet. I've got some ideas and I'll post some photos when I've got it done.
Speaking of photos, I'm really behind on posting. I'll try to get some more up this week.
Thanks for the interest,
Mike

 

[d110pickup]

I'm really behind with posting photos, I'll try to get a several up in the next few days.
Here's a couple of the base mold I put down and one of a fire extinguisher and signage (there's two wall mounted in the shop).
Thanks for looking,
Mike

 

[d110pickup]

I finally finished the framing for the portico behind the shop, I also cleaned the basic frame that has been exposed all winter.
Mike

 

[bld movs]

Its looking good mike!

 

[RedOak]

This is one of the most interesting threads I've ever read on a community forum. Thanks very much for your time and your great efforts, Mike.

RedOak

 

[VegasBruce]

Updates?

 

[d110pickup]

Wow, I didn't realize that I haven't updated this thread since April. I'll try to post some current photos and some verbage in the next couple of days.
Mike

 

[cobraman]

This is AWESOME!

 

[Curt_pnw]

This is AWESOME!

I agree!
Nice work Mike! Are you enjoying having more space to spread out and work on projects?

 

[d110pickup]

Here's a few photos of the portico framing.

Thanks for the complements guys.

Mike

 

[jmastersinc]

Nice, I'm lovin it

 

[d110pickup]

Here's a couple of photos of the portico frame after I painted it. I figured it would be much easier to paint before the tin roof went on. And it allowed me to paint every surface.
Each of the four posts has 110 outlets and two of them have 50 amp, 220 outlets for the welder or plasma cutter. The switch for the ceiling fan is also in a waterproof box. All of the outlets are GFI, the 50 amp GFI was about $100.
Mike

 

[VegasBruce]

Cool build.

 

[d110pickup]

Here's a few of the completed portico.
Thanks for the kind comments guys.
Mike

 

[Motown 454]

That looks awesome. Nice work.

 

[vvk645]

that's a real nice addition and looks great

 

[Denee007]

That looks like a fun place to "do what we do!" Great job!
dne'

 

[NUTTSGT]

Thanks man, You just used up a couple hours of my time enjoying your build.


Why did you pick the reddish color over the color of your house ? Because it looks like a barn ? "barn red"


Did I spy a corner shelf to hold a future TV ?

 

[GHOSTDANCER]

That looks great.

 

[VegasBruce]

Sweet!!!

 

[d110pickup]

Thanks man, You just used up a couple hours of my time enjoying your build.

Why did you pick the reddish color over the color of your house ? Because it looks like a barn ? "barn red"

Did I spy a corner shelf to hold a future TV ?

Well, I hope you enjoyed the read as much as I enjoyed doing it. And I've even happier that it's finished and I'm working in the shop and not on the shop.

To answer your question about the color. I was going to paint it to match the house at first but iwas talking to a friend that's an architect and one of his "specialties" was doing color schemes for a high-end builder. He thought it should be red. We kicked it around and then he found the "perfect" shade of red and we really liked it. He explained it to us but it really looked good with the house. The windows are vinyl and came that color so that's what we used for all the trim.

Yep, I put in a TV shelf and my wive took the hint and got me a 50" plasma for my birthday. It's big enough to see from the other end of the shop. I also got a surround sound system with an Ipod dock from my employer for my 30 yr anniversary there. I planned ahead and wired it surround when the walls were open.
Thanks for the compliments,
Mike

 

[Tman]

Just read this for the first time. Thanks for the great thread!

Your barn doors gave me an idea on improving mine (wood on bottom, mine is steel and expands against the floor when hot (DOH!))

I did not see if you had gotten around to weatherstripping? I simply ran dense closed cell foam weatherstrip on each door where they mated. The stripping is 1/2" thick. I ran one strip on the outside edge and one towards the inside so they interlocked. Held up well for 4 years of heavy use until now and I need to add $5 more since they have compressed with use. Draft free with 60mph winds at 20 below.

 

[Chaz]

There's no question its a beautiful barn, but I'm gonna question the engineering. The roof load for BOTH roofs on a monitor style barn lands where the lower roof joins the upper wall. Where is the supporting member?
I too built a monitor style barn, and the engineering had me using two 5x24 glu lams across the entire length spanning no more than 20 feet at a time. Think about the load at that seam. its huge duing winter snows.
I'm no engineer, but I'd sure like to see the numbers on that.

 

[d110pickup]

There's no question its a beautiful barn, but I'm gonna question the engineering. The roof load for BOTH roofs on a monitor style barn lands where the lower roof joins the upper wall. Where is the supporting member?
I too built a monitor style barn, and the engineering had me using two 5x24 glu lams across the entire length spanning no more than 20 feet at a time. Think about the load at that seam. its huge duing winter snows.
I'm no engineer, but I'd sure like to see the numbers on that.

OK . . . . The post & beam construction bears the load and transfers it to the footings. If you look back at the construction photos I think you'll see how this works. Remember there's a steel tube fitting at each intersection. It will work just as well as a pole barn with no walls.

Snow load??????
Look at my location, we receive an inch or two of snow a year and it typically melts the next day.
Thanks for looking,
Mike

 

[fergus]

I think I can say this is my favorite shop/barn build on here so far...just because I love this style, the natural light and your pull through capabilty to the portico in back... and the fact that you built it yourself. Congrats on an awesome build...I know what style of building I'll daydreaming about now!!!

 

[Chaz]

Mike, Please dont get me wrong. Your shop is beautiful and the workmanship is top drawer. Certainly one of the nicest builds ever showcased here.
I'm just echoing what my engineer explained to me when I was designing mine. After he explained the forces at work and a short history of monitor style barns I could certainly see his point
The " lean to" sides on a Monitor style barn were often added after the basic structure was built. The upper roof therefore was supported vertically to the ground with a wall and upright members. Those uprights also became the supports for the lower roof.
Here's a diagram to help explain what he was showing me.
Picture 3 people standing on two chairs back to back. The upper person is on a platform stretched between the backs of the two chairs . See the following diagram. The people represent the roof loads.

If you cut the back legs off both chairs, you create an extreme load at the point circled on the below diagram.

This was my area of concern. The diagonals that you have from the legs to the ceiling beam certainly help to transfer the load, and maybe that's enough.
The fact that you deal with very little snow load is also a factor I'm sure.
(you're right ))- I didnt look at your location, I just saw the snow in your pictures and assumed you were in a more Northern climate.)
The fact that there is no living area or other weight upstairs is also in your favor.Anyway, that's why I asked if the engineering had been done

The sockets or ferrules are a nice way to build , but they also have their limitations.
I certainly meant no disrepect in my previous post. I was passing along the information that was given to me by an engineer regarding monitor style buildings.
OK, I'm done now.

 

[neonnblack]

It seems from the socket website that you have to use some of the strongest const. grade timbers and that the brackets themselves are built well enough to handle the load. I'm sure that in a place with a higher snow load the bracketry would be designed differently to handle the weight.

 

[d110pickup]

Mike, Please dont get me wrong. Your shop is beautiful and the workmanship is top drawer. Certainly one of the nicest builds ever showcased here.
I'm just echoing what my engineer explained to me when I was designing mine. After he explained the forces at work and a short history of monitor style barns I could certainly see his point
The " lean to" sides on a Monitor style barn were often added after the basic structure was built. The upper roof therefore was supported vertically to the ground with a wall and upright members. Those uprights also became the supports for the lower roof.
Here's a diagram to help explain what he was showing me.
Picture 3 people standing on two chairs back to back. The upper person is on a platform stretched between the backs of the two chairs . See the following diagram. The people represent the roof loads.

If you cut the back legs off both chairs, you create an extreme load at the point circled on the below diagram.

This was my area of concern. The diagonals that you have from the legs to the ceiling beam certainly help to transfer the load, and maybe that's enough.
The fact that you deal with very little snow load is also a factor I'm sure.
(you're right ))- I didnt look at your location, I just saw the snow in your pictures and assumed you were in a more Northern climate.)
The fact that there is no living area or other weight upstairs is also in your favor.Anyway, that's why I asked if the engineering had been done

The sockets or ferrules are a nice way to build , but they also have their limitations.
I certainly meant no disrepect in my previous post. I was passing along the information that was given to me by an engineer regarding monitor style buildings.
OK, I'm done now.

Chaz,
You've got to try a lot harder than that to hurt my feelings!
I have no problem with your questions and I'll try explain how it works.
First, look at this photo. The horizontal timber between the lower roofs is loaded in tension. The building would not stay up without those timbers.

Second, you are correct the haunch braces transfer a lot of the load to the posts.
The steel fittings are 6x6x1/4 wall tubing and the frames are on 8' centers. Everything and I mean everything is bolted together. It's pretty damn stout.
Remember the roofs on the sides are at a 30 degree angle not flat like the chairs in your drawing.
Yeah the snow photos threw you off. I took the photos right after sunup and most of it was gone by sundown.
One of my friends that helped with the build is a PE and he wouldn't let something wrong slip by.
Mike

 

[d110pickup]

Here's a few photos of the interior before I've had a chance to trash it. I took these on the day of the "shop warming" party we had.
Thanks,
Mike

 

[d110pickup]

I've read posts on GJ asking how to move air compressors and other large/heavy pieces of equipment. Here's a couple of photos of my buddy Jeff helping me move my compressor from the basement up a slight hill to the shop. All we needed was one big engine hoist, the winch on the Range Rover and a ****** block. I'd much rather work smart than work hard; it's easier on the back too.
Thanks for looking,
Mike

 

[Motown 454]

Smart is always better!

 

[Quiksilver]

Congratulations on the page about your barn in the new Family Handyman magazine. Great looking place you have there.

 

[Omicron]

Beautiful shop and set up overall. Only thing I'd suggest would be a catwalk up in the "monitor" section of the shop. You built it and it's very dramatic, but you might as well utilize the design feature to the fullest.

Very cool thread.

 

[heffneil]

Yeah saw the garage featured in Family Handyman this month. Such a recognizable building that when I saw it I instantly knew it was yours! Nice job and great to get some awesome recognition!

Neil

 

[d110pickup]

Thanks guys; it's pretty cool to have the shop in the magazine. And it put 100 bucks in my pocket!
The editor saw it on here and we swapped emails for a few months.
Mike

 

[magnusk750]

Stumbled inte this thread today for the first time. Great! The raised aisle construction was much used for cattle barns in the Soviet time here. I've peeped a lot at them and wanted to build my my own shop like this but I desperately need also a second floor. Nice to see someone else building it.

 

[M-technik-3]

That's funny externally winching something up the hill. We use the jets internal hydraulic winch and external at last resort.

Love the look of the garage but would preferred to see the post and beam look on the outside.

 

[d110pickup]

That's funny externally winching something up the hill. We use the jets internal hydraulic winch and external at last resort.

Love the look of the garage but would preferred to see the post and beam look on the outside.

That was the safest way we could think of to move a 400 lb top heavy machine up an incline. Jeff & I have moved a helluva lot of heavy machines through the years and we haven't broke a machine or us yet!

Now tell me about the "jets internal hydraulic winch and external at last resort".
Thanks,
Mike

 

[peelman]

Got any picks of the finished air compressor housing you were building just outside the shop? I didn’t see any plumbing or anything for air going into the shop either (granted i wasn’t looking that closely), but I assume since you were sheltering the compressor outside you were doing some.

 

[M-technik-3]

Mike this is a great example of internal winching. My unit was instructing WV and we happened to have to move these two toys some time ago. Djibouti was where we were and it was 105 at 11 pm at night. Not hot, Africa freaking HOT is what it was.

Greg