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Tom "Python" Aycock

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^ Also has the other number on the decal I pointed out earlier, and what looks like a date.
Ahhh, yes. I looked over the 1976 catalog and those sets have my similar hasp closure. Mine being 1967 would explain the hasp difference from those listed in the 1962 catalog. Wish there was a 1967 catalog so we could just put this dog to rest!
 
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Here are some pictures of a flying V 1/4" socket set that was purchased as part of a complete flying V mechanic tool set along with a standard tool box in the early sixties. Does anyone have any information on when Craftsman started with the red plastic inserts in the metal socket boxes and eliminated the metal socket holders in the 1/4" box? I was trying to determine a closer date of when this was purchased. I vividly remember as a small child riding up the escalator with my father from the basement of our Sears which commonly had the sporting goods, tools, automotive, and toys . He looked so proud. Those were magical times for me. Extra deep sockets etc. were added though the years as different needs arose.
 

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^ All I can tell you is that the box with the metal thingie with the holes in it preceded the red plastic thingie that always self-destructs.
No idea on year range.
 

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Scored this postwar set yesterday. Some of the sockets still have the boiled linseed oil on them! Nice unmarked plomb ratchet and new Britain sockets and hinge handle with the often missing pin handle. This set was sold post war and is in the Sears catalog. Inside of the box has its black paint but the outside has almost none. I’m actually going to leave this set just the way it is! Not clean it up or do anything. The set has that oil/ grease smell to it and the patina is so cool!
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I believe you are right on the mark - (no pun intended) - unfortunately ITCL doesn't have a 1958 Craftsman hand tool catalog available.

1954-1960 Craftsman 1/4" drive SAE socket sets - steel tray with holes to red plastic insert evolution:
 

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Scored this postwar set yesterday. Some of the sockets still have the boiled linseed oil on them! Nice unmarked plomb ratchet and new Britain sockets and hinge handle with the often missing pin handle. This set was sold post war and is in the Sears catalog. Inside of the box has its black paint but the outside has almost none. I’m actually going to leave this set just the way it is! Not clean it up or do anything. The set has that oil/ grease smell to it and the patina is so cool!
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Here is my box populated with New Britain tools.IMG_7235.jpeg
-Don
 

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I went through and made sure some of my early Craftsman 1/4”drive sets were accurate and complete. A couple of them were picked up over the summer. I posted some on another thread as well.
Two Heritage sets.
Two post Heritage sets.
-Don

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I believe you are right on the mark - (no pun intended) - unfortunately ITCL doesn't have a 1958 Craftsman hand tool catalog available.

1954-1960 Craftsman 1/4" drive SAE socket sets - steel tray with holes to red plastic insert evolution:
Good research, BK. Probably the Heritage boxes are earlier than the Craftsman embossed in the middle of the lid sets. The red insert boxes have the Craftsman embossed in the lower corner. None of mine have the flying Vee ratchet. IMG_6971.jpegIMG_6970.jpegIMG_6972.jpeg
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I recently received these Walden tools in a black box that had been badly spray bombed. IMG_4710.jpegThe chrome plated tools inside looked to be immediately postwar and included a rare chrome crossbar. I cleaned up a spare original red Walden box and proceeded to try to make up a set. I seem to be missing a couple of matching 8 point sockets. IMG_4972.jpegIMG_4973.jpeg
Here are some images from a 1948 catalog. IMG_0828.jpegIMG_5881.jpegIMG_5880.jpeg
-Don
 

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^ All I can tell you is that the box with the metal thingie with the holes in it preceded the red plastic thingie that always self-destructs.
No idea on year range.
That's funny!

But so true. I don't think I've seen many intact red holders at all. The plastic must be bio-degradable or something.
 
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^ All plastic eventually self-destructs. Some just takes longer. Funny thing: U.S. made plastic inserts crack, crumble, and fall apart, and yet the ones in my cheapie "Mark II" early-1970's Japan-made sets still held up fine, and the 1970's German-made "Proxxon" set insert is in great shape. (And Proxxon is considered a "low end" line by most.)

Go figure.
 

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I received a rare NAF Philadelphia socket generously sent to me by Mister Ed. Progress is slowly being made towards completing this set. Thanks, Ed!
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Another socket has been added to my Philadelphia set. I found a 1/4” one at an Oakland yard sale today. IMG_5137.jpeg
I added it to the partial set. IMG_5149.jpegIMG_5148.jpeg
Here are all of the pieces I have gathered. IMG_5147.jpeg
If anyone runs across one of these odd looking sockets please let me know.
-Don
 

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Anybody know who might be the producer of this spinner handle. It came in an odd black plastic socket box with several PowrKraft sockets. It is red wine colored.1000021107.jpg1000021108.jpg
 

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Purchased this Sparta set off Ebay recently. Needed the included CM64 spinner handle to finish up my #7501 1/4 & 3/8 drive set. In researching the box and what should be in it I discovered, yet again, that ITCL only has one catalog on there (#156) circa early 1960s? That catalog uses the CM45 as the ratchet and mine is a CM43. Remembering that New Britain produced these tools for NAPA and Sparta, and also realizing the series numbers in this set match Husky tools, I found a duplicate set (#7016) in the Husky 1959 catalog. I can only surmise the 1959 Sparta version would mirror the 1959 Husky set with contents. This existing box doesnt really allow room for the spinner. Alas, just need the elusive 3" crossbar.1000021287.jpg1000021290.jpg1000021288.jpg
 

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Here's a NOS 9/32 drive Deco and it's wrapper20251014_220004.jpg20251014_215938.jpg

Wow! Nice acquisition - and very helpful.

The packaging would be a first for a Deco spinner on GJ as far as I know, even if it was commercial. That it's clearly military, clearly aviation ("Class 17-B" was the supply designation for US Army Air Forces Small Hand Tools, and later, for USAF Nonpowered Hand Tools), and clearly ordered as a separate item (as far as I know we have never seen them in sets with other Deco pieces), lends credence to much of the collective speculation about the users and use cases for these spinners.

The big surprise was the contract number.

In my experience with military boxes, packages, labels etc for hand tools and other items, there is overwhelming precedence for the practice of contracting agencies embedding dates in contract/order numbers. Given that practice, it sure looks to me like the "45" in Order No. (33-038) 45-3408-AF could signify 1945.

And, lo and behold, there is some evidence to suggest that it might.

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While that exact contract number does not appear here, similar contracts with the Air Corps under the exact same parenthetical contract series ("33038"), used as a prefix - do. I would suspect the reason for the absence is either the contract starting later (11-45 or 12-45) or perhaps not large enough to merit the list, which had a minimum $50,000 total value cut off.

I don't know why I never looked up Deco in the Wartime Contracts books before. Probably because I never thought they were a wartime tool or supplier. I thought they were 1950's at the earliest.

One interesting oddity is seeing the "AF" by itself. In this case it would have to signify "Air Forces", short for US Army Air Forces, because the USAF was not established until 1947. We usually see it as "AAF" (or the "AC" for Air Corps, which the USAAF encapsulated as a higher HQ in 1943).

Or the "45" is an anomaly, the "AF" actually does refer to Air Force, and this particular tool and pgk are postwar.

I'm not sure. Either way, this goes a long way toward legitimizing Deco as a wartime aviation supplier and the tools as potentially wartime, making all those SWAGs about the "44" in the model number signifying a date suddenly seem not so wild after all.

Thanks for posting.

If only to re-emphasize the significance of your acquisition, OTG, and its prompt to me to find Deco in the books, I would characterize it more like cracking the whole damn case than just another clue. Those matching numbers ("33038") - one instance on a period and another on an actual pkg label - are the kinds of substantive empirical evidence that are impossible to argue with. It definitively confirms Deco production for the Air Corps (US Army Air Forces) and, again, by association, lends much credence to all spinners that share the characteristics of the spinner in that pkg being potentially wartime.
I likely got this one from the same seller. It will head into the cosmoline box in the basement.IMG_5544.jpegIMG_5543.jpeg
-Don
 
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According to the listing, the seller started out with a quantity of 10. I seem to have grabbed the last one with a best offer. I’ve had two in the past but passed them along to others. One had been badly modified to something close to 1/4” drive.IMG_9400.jpeg
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Those are a fist full. My STW version is 1/4" drive, as is this fat little Husky spinner that's almost as big around.

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I'll have to double check the part number, but it appears to be CM20C (?)

The large grips are great for delivering torque, but they don't fit in your typical 1/4" box sets.

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I posted this one in 2017.IMG_9401.jpeg
And posted this ground down one in 2019.IMG_9403.pngIMG_9402.jpeg
Apparently this Worthpoint listing was shown on ToolTalk in 2017 but I didn’t notice it back then. IMG_9406.jpegIMG_9405.jpeg
I want a Walden 1/4” drive one too!
-Don
 

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According to the listing, the seller started out with a quantity of 10.
High qty is typical for surplus military, as you know. He probably grabbed a box of them somewhere. We all have our stashes of dozens of sockets, all the same size! LOL. Seems even more prevalent with 9/32 drive.
I seem to have grabbed the last one with a best offer. I’ve had two in the past but passed them along to others.
I found mine in the wild years ago. Keep it with a bunch of miscellaneous 9/32-drive stuff. Posted here.

The cool thing about Otg seeing them pop up is just one instance of that pkging helps corroborate all of them with the same characteristics and P/N.
 

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Great timing that the Deco handles popped up. I found a gigantic Deco looking one over the weeekrnd, and a second stubby driver, both in 1/4” drive. Neither has any markings that I can find. Plumb 1/4” flex head for scale.


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^ That's a Herbrand spinner there, Tom.
Tracking, it came with the powrkraft sockets. Which leads me to wonder if the plastic box was a powrkraft item (similar to stormking's post) or just an off box. I know Thorsen used a similar black plastic box in their 1990s era military sets...and Thorsen made some PowrKraft so by association...?
 

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Hey, is that a deeper black plastic box? I recently bought a small lot of powrkraft sockets and it came with a deeper black plastic box. No clear lid on mine so a little different.1000021319.jpg
Yes, as deep as most metal box sets. This is all Powerkraft so I assume the box is original.
 

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First tool kit I was ever given. Also the only 1/4" drive set I own. I did, at some point, get some 12pt sockets mixed in with the 6pt set. And I've dropped it a few times and they've ended up in the wrong order more than once. Not sure where the original 1/4" ratchet went, but this is the only one I have now. I'm also missing the adapter it came with for the larger sockets.

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I believe you are right on the mark - (no pun intended) - unfortunately ITCL doesn't have a 1958 Craftsman hand tool catalog available.

1954-1960 Craftsman 1/4" drive SAE socket sets - steel tray with holes to red plastic insert evolution:
Here is the similar catalog page from 1958 1766099308915.png
 
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VIM 9 pc 9.32 dr SAE socket set VIM011226 01.jpg
VIM 9 piece 9/32" drive SAE Socket Wrench Set - partial remains of a 994 "Midget" set.

There was some speculation this was actually manufactured by Milwaukee Tool & Forge for VIM, which is entirely possible.

The set includes:

1/4" 12-point socket
9/32" "
5/16" "
11/32" "
3/8" "
7/16" "

5/16" 4-point (square) socket

wood-handled spinner with two detent balls on drive end of tool
 

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Riverside 12 piece 1/4" drive SAE Socket Wrench Set

manufactured for Montgomery Ward by Indestro Mfg. Corp., Chicago, Illinois

this set includes:

1/4" 12-point socket
9/32" "
5/16" "
11/32" "
3/8" "
7/16" "

1/4" 8-point socket
5/16" "
3/8" "

5-inch flex handle (breaker bar) marked "CHROMIUM VANADIUM"
4-inch cross bar

There are no markings on the sockets other than the size stampings. There is no part number on the flex handle.
Oddly, the ends of the pin holding the anvil into the yoke on this unit protrude out from the sides a bit - which makes me wonder if a previous owner replaced the pin at some point.
 

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Some of my midgets. Snap-on, mtf, husky, Williams, herbrand, and part of my Blackhawk.
Still haven't been able to figure anything out on the herbrand mighty mite no. 235 set. I have another one one the way that may provide a little insight. One thing that's curious is that I have seen Williams hex drive midgets with the same hinge set up as the herbrand but out of my 7 or 8 husky/Williams sets I don't have any.
 

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Updated pic of midgets. A Williams 286 and 287-A and 289 plus a Williams/husky collab set possibly 287 and a husky baby set. A 1920s Snap-on set and a 1931 Snap-on set an mtf set and a herbrand set plus a random mix of stuff in an extra herbrand case.20260206_181432.jpg20260206_181340.jpg
 

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Yup here's the wright version and a wardsmastr. I think I have a crescent and a speedmaster somewhere

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OTG, your K2S17 Set is the same numbering system as the sets in the 1956 catalog but the box design is different. The logo is also the same as the 1956 catalog whereas the 1972 catalog has a different logo script. So, as I just picked up a K2S14 set, I surmise circa 1960s?
 
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