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Nailers for crown molding over kitchen cabinets

branimal

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I am installing 3” crown molding over my kitchen cabinets. The gap b/w the top of the cabinets and the ceiling is 6” so i’m going to cover that with a filler panel.

I watched some videos and I think I need to nail on some strips of scrap wood to the back of the cabinet faces to provide a nailer for the filler strip. (red lines) Then run some 1" x 3” strips on the ceiling to provide a nailer for the crown molding. (green lines).

Is this the correct way to do it? Any tips?

Thanks


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if you have the right filler strip/panel you can simply set the panel on the top of the cabinet 3/4 face material and predrill and screw the panel in from the bottom and **** the panel down to the face material (not the doors).... but the 3/4 by 1.5" thick usually maple if they aren't thermafoil cabinets. then you can snap a line on the ceiling and mark the floor joists above and nail the crown to them following the snap line to keep the crown squared up. you could put a nailer on the ceiling but no necessary. does this make sense? same way you put two cabinets together predrilling the face maple with 3" small head countersunk screws is the same way you'd attach filler panels . I can send you a picture of mine if I had your email.
 

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If you make your panel at least 3/4 thick, you can just glue it in place.
You can the same with the crown molding.
 

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That size crown should be fine just nailing at the bottom. You aren't supposed to attach crown to the wall and the ceiling anyhow.
 
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Yep I have 3/4” filler panel. I like the idea of pulling the filler to the cabinet box with the countersunk screws.

I don’t have a joist or any type of nailer above the sheetrock ceiling.

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kbs2244; said:
If you make your panel at least 3/4 thick, you can just glue it in place.
You can the same with the crown molding.


I saw a video of a guy gluing moulding together and the glue cured in minutes. He used a spray on the glue and he called the sprayer an activator.

Anyone know what that is?



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you couldn't pay me enough to glue crown to anything. yes you have either ceiling joist or floor joists on the other side of that drywall on the ceiling. that's your nailer. as suggested you may not need to nail it by I would and then caulk the crown to the ceiling and cabinets so there are no gaps.
 
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Crown Moulding is not easy to install. If you don’t have experience with it you are best to hire it out. Good luck!
 
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dragrcr890; said:
you couldn't pay me enough to glue crown to anything. yes you have either ceiling joist or floor joists on the other side of that drywall on the ceiling. that's your nailer. as suggested you may not need to nail it by I would and then caulk the crown to the ceiling and cabinets so there are no gaps.



The ceiling is dropped about 6”. There are nailers running across the ceiling (connecting the sheetrock to the floor joists) but they are not where I need them to be.


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I saw a video of a guy gluing moulding together and the glue cured in minutes. He used a spray on the glue and he called the sprayer an activator.

Anyone know what that is?



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Mitre bond and it works great use it on baseboards and casing. Hold for 10 seconds and walk away.

I nail crown down to the top of cabinet. after I dry fit the pieces I put a small dab of silicon at each corner an middle and make sure nails won’t come through inside of cabinet. Line em up an nail em down.

If you can get a nails then an option is countersunk screw from inside and buy the covers for the screws.

Don’t silicone the crown to the ceiling. And don’t nail it to the floor joists either.
 

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I had Thermofoil cabinets at our old house. I ripped 2x4’s to match the crown angle. I nailed those to top of cabinets in many places , especially corners. This allowed me to nail the crown to solid wood where ever it was necessary.

Not sure if that’s the right way, but it worked out great.
 

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I would fasten 2x or 1x to the ceiling as you suggested. attach your filler to that. screw the filler thru the cabinet tops . install your crown
wouldn't hurt to install a bit of blocking to the cabinet top to locate your filler

as mentioned. crown molding is more difficult that other trims to install, practice a bit and be prepared to make a few screw ups.
 

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Make an angle wood with some 3/4 ply, a 1"x 1", and some 5/8" or 3/4" finished filler material (it will be the face). Glue and pin nail it together from the back side so your face piece isn't marred. Screw the angle wood to the cab top with your preferance of flush or a + or - reveal. If you have a prominent reveal both pieces of your angle wood need to be finished. Then nail and caulk the moulding to the angle wood. The angle wood should stop short of your ceiling. It should be tall enough to get good meet for nailing your moulding to, but not tall enough to be hitting the ceiling. The 1X1 is to give added support for assembly and working with the moulding.
 

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