NASA/Snap On
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PistolWhip
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All that proves is that organizations that are built on the backs of the tax payer could care less about how much they spend for a tool box.... Snap-On makes a good tool box I'll agree with that, but I know with certainty that my Ranger and my Craftsman would very effectively store that multimillion dollar "custom made power tool" just as well and for 1/3rd the price.
So NASA and this thread proved that government is wasteful with your money.... Hmmmm shocker....
So NASA and this thread proved that government is wasteful with your money.... Hmmmm shocker....
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greasemonkey44
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wtf is that thing?
the drill, thingy
the drill, thingy
nate379
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Snap On Industrial is actually semi affordable. About 50% of catalog price.
hofferwood
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I would rather see our taxpayer dollars end up in NASA's hands where most of the money they spend remains within the US economy, not to mention everything they do to advance science and technology. Much better than using taxpayer money to put chinese solar panels on private individual's roofs.
That said, here's another nasa snapon box, sorry for the poor pic i couldnt go down to where it was.
And theres some lista and vidmar in here somewhere. (this is my dream workshop. i decided.)
That said, here's another nasa snapon box, sorry for the poor pic i couldnt go down to where it was.
And theres some lista and vidmar in here somewhere. (this is my dream workshop. i decided.)
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I can fix anything
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Correct, GOV prices are a lot less than retail. Some people would rather just rant about the government and not put any thought into it.
PistolWhip
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If that's directed at me, your sadly mistaken sir. I work for the government and see it first hand. I'm not bitching, I'm telling the truth. You can burry your head if you'dlike though
Ouch PistolWhip, this thread isn't a soapbox for your government rants!!
But I must say, that I totally agree with you on your level of certainty!
But I must say, that I totally agree with you on your level of certainty!
Could be why all new space ventures will be privatized and contracted out. NASA is under going huge down sizing in personnel as a result laying off 2800 workers.
However I wouldn't have expected anything less from NASA. For anything they don't make themselves from scratch they use the defacto best that's out there and spare no expense. Plenty of harbor freight cans should be floating in space in the next decade and you'll be able to buy tickets!
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PistolWhip
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Dam it wasn't a rant, it was a one paragraph comment... You guys are sensitive tonight...
And good catch on my typo, that really changed the meaning huh... LOL
And good catch on my typo, that really changed the meaning huh... LOL
I can fix anything
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I would rather see the most important scientific facility in the world buy snap on boxes, thats better than being pissed away on some crack heads rehab bill.
PistolWhip
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True, very true.
Again, I wasn't looking for an argument and certainly wasn't standing on a soapbox. It was only a comment about wasteful spending that I didn't take any further than that.
Again, I wasn't looking for an argument and certainly wasn't standing on a soapbox. It was only a comment about wasteful spending that I didn't take any further than that.
Givl Reggin
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An off-the-shelf Snap-On is cheaper then having a box custom-built. Look at the boxes NASA and their center use in the clean rooms and tell me what you think they cost.
Fiero
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I work at SpaceX (one of NASA's service providers) and I couldn't have said it better myself
. The fact that NASA is using only a snap-on box meanings they've saved the tax payers some money. As another point of reference: in our shops we use primarily Lista's for tool storage and HF's (!!) and bluepoints for job boxes. Generally speaking we order boxes that we can get quickly for a decent bulk price. Some of the more experienced technicians will bring in their personal boxes and as you'd imagine they're normally MAC, Matco or Snap-ons (I'd bet a dollar that red snap-on box in mrb's picture is someone's personal box).
I'd wager that government regulations specify that they use US made products whenever possible. Seeing how GSA pricing is significantly less than retail, it's entirely possible that those Snap-On boxes were among the least expensive of their options.
Toolhorder
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Wow first reply is all it took....
I haven't had the privilege of using an actual SO box. But the shop has Lista AND Vidmar, and they are top-notch as far as I can see.
I guess I'll be saving up around 5k for a Lista box in the future! Who needs kids anyways? Taxes? Pssh.
I guess I'll be saving up around 5k for a Lista box in the future! Who needs kids anyways? Taxes? Pssh.
nate379
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Snap On boxes are over rated if you ask me. My buddy has a CMan Pro box and I'd swap my Snap On box in a second for it. The first time I went into his box I about busted my teeth out with the drawer. I was so used to the amount of force needed to open my drawers and his open with barely any effort. It came flying open at Mach 10!
No I don't base off JUST that one. We have a **** ton of Snap On boxes at work, along with Craftsman, Vidmar, Lista, etc as well.
No I don't base off JUST that one. We have a **** ton of Snap On boxes at work, along with Craftsman, Vidmar, Lista, etc as well.
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Toolhorder
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*sigh* it's like every thread.
Swap it out then please and spare everyone who likes SO the BS.
nate379
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Would if I could. He doesn't want my box. Only reason I keep it is that it cost less than a Craftsman box.
dwm
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The Craftsman Pro boxes are indeed very nice. Unfortunately they've essentially disappeared. There's one left (the 36"), which I believe is being discontinued. It was on sale last month for $870, and I almost bought one but I need another one in that size like I need another hole in my head.
NCCheesehead
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Buy the looks of those stickers and the general age of the boxes, I would bet they are "employee owned" and not government purchased anyway.
are you sure you have a snap on box, maybe you mistakenly bought a stack on
? a gently breeze should blow it open if not latched, sounds like you have a slide problem. Also even if it has bearings the basic laws of physics still apply. If you have more weight in a drawer or a larger drawer it will take more energy to place it in motion. Do you have more tools in yours?
PistolWhip
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Apparently the definition of "discussion forum" has lost its meaning with you. Is it that only your opinion counts or is it that you've drank the Kool-Aid so much that you now consider it a threat to your religion when someone doesn't bow at the casters of a SO box?? The guy's entitled to his opinion (as is everyone else) and without people adding them to this forum it wouldn't much of a forum at all.
I work at SpaceX (one of NASA's service providers) and I couldn't have said it better myself
As another point of reference: in our shops we use primarily Lista's for tool storage and HF's (!!) and bluepoints for job boxes. Generally speaking we order boxes that we can get quickly for a decent bulk price. Some of the more experienced technicians will bring in their personal boxes and as you'd imagine they're normally MAC, Matco or Snap-ons (I'd bet a dollar that red snap-on box in mrb's picture is someone's personal box).
SpaceX, right on. You guys are totally killing it in that market. I know a few people who work there. Do the personal boxes include personal tools? How do they manage the calibrations/certs? Do the techs have to pay to cal their own tools, or does SpaceX pay for it? Where I work none of the techs have their own tools.
Fiero
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It's flexible: personal boxes have personal tools but we also have production boxes with company owned tools. Which tool is used is really up to the discretion of the technician. Any measurement device needs a current cal cert. Thankfully we have a small metrology group who keeps all torquing and measurement instruments (company owned & personal) certified.
Where you work are techs able to get weird/new tools quickly when they need them? Do techs claim a box or do they have area boxes?
Toolhorder
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Discussions are fine, one sided constant bashing is quite another.
I think if Snap on gave you a free toolbox instead of Ranger you would have a different opinion about it after hearing "Snap-on's" overrated EVERY single thread.
Jesus people give it a rest already and just buy whatever you like.
Personally I like SO's boxes and have quite a few, that doesn't mean I don't have a bunch of C-man boxes or want a Lista cab or a Montezuma road box so really piss off with the whole religion comment.
justanengineer
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Very interesting pictures, and I personally would take the Vidmars before the SO boxes, but I load my drawers HEAVY.
Having interviewed for NASA, I must say that I was shocked at how low the salaries are. Considering the level of work done, it is the best value in government workers that I have ever encountered outside of the military, and I find it very unfortunate that they are being downsized.
Having interviewed for NASA, I must say that I was shocked at how low the salaries are. Considering the level of work done, it is the best value in government workers that I have ever encountered outside of the military, and I find it very unfortunate that they are being downsized.
William Payne
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That large snap-on setup in the first post has a moon equipment sticker on it. I wonder if the guy who owns that is a hotrodder.
PistolWhip
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See that's where your wrong. It's all fine, one sided or not, it's called OPINION and its what internet forums are made of.
You have a real hard time accepting other people's opinions don't you? Of course if Snap On gave me a free box, I'd like it and I never once in my entire time on this site said that Snap On tools or boxs are over rated or over priced for what they are. My comments had nothing to do with a free box and everything to do with what you get for your dollar. Otherwise known for bang for the buck.
There is a big difference between over priced and under valued. An item that is a good value may not exactly be as good a product as one that is higher cost but over priced in comparison.
I'm not a newbie to tools or tool storage and regardless of what's in my garage, I never said any of them were better or worse than another in terms of quality and use.
You need to lighten up and realize that the Internet is full of people that know it all and have something to say about everything. Get over it, stop being so sensitive and you'll live a lot longer and healthier life. I'm sure your life is full of things that deserve much more attention and stress than a friggen debate on an Internet forum about who has the better tool box.
Honestly, I could care less what kind of tool box a NASA tech is given by the government, if the government even pays for it. It's small potatoes and the comment I made in my first post was metaphorical in nature and more of a broad comment about how easy it is to partake in wasteful spending when the money aint yours and never stops coming. Ill timed maybe, maybe not.
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Tatsuya
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You're thinking more along the lines of shipyard workers treating a 3/4" or 1" drive Snap-On torque wrench like a football. I have more faith in those who work at NASA.
stopdroplol
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Oh please. If you'd put on the reality goggles you'd see the majority of this thread, this forum, and the industries in general have a hard-on for anything stamped Snap-on. Whether it be a toolbox, a chess set, or a set of steak knives.
And no, you don't get to whine about people bashing Snap-on in a thread that self asserts once and for all "Snap-on is the best ever"
Tatsuya
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Whaaaa... Snap-On has steak knives!!!??? I definitely have to get a set of them! I may just start eating meat too.
Toolhorder
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If it's one sided it's not really a discussion anymore is it?
That's the point I'm getting at. Every thread turns into a vs. Snap-on thread.
Like I said I have several boxes of different makes and I know exactly which ones are better and which ones are not. I could care less what anyone else uses in their garage or whatever.
I certainly don't need acceptance from a guy with an empty Ranger toolbox
PistolWhip
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LOL, whatever.... Your so **** hurt by someone saying bad things about your almighty god the Snap On that your now trying to make it personal... LOL... Wow, talk about sensitive.