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young_buck

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well my $5 one job ratchet finally died after 2 years of continuous use, I am looking into the snap-on dual 80 ratchets and have narrowed it down to 3, the TLL72, TL72 and the THL72. I like the price of the TLL72 and the TL72 and the longer handle but I like the soft grip. I just don't know if it is worth the extra $10 right now.. what do you think?

** I will be getting more than one in the near future, just looking to narrow it down to one for now **
 
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The TL without the soft grip is pencil thin, if that is what you want cool, but it can be a literal pain if your are really torquing on it.
 

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Man, you're young and just getting started. There are a lot of ratchets out there capable of giving you years of reliable service from Proto, Williams, SK, Armstrong, and Wright for a whole lot less money. Take Proto for example. You can get a couple sizes of 24T Pear heads that will handle anything you can throw at it and a couple sizes of 72T round heads for finer stuff and still be ahead versus the Snap-On. It's your money and if you're that set on the Dual 80 go for it, but I felt compelled to highlight an alternative.

Edit: Ok, after looking, they aren't as much as I thought the were.
 
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I suggest the TF72. I never use a non-flex 1/4 ratchet anymore. I also really like my SK 1/4 flex head ratchet. Im not sure what the part number is.
 
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I have looked into alternatives but unfortunately not all are easily acquired in Canada and even harder in my hometown, we have a snap on dealer, Mac dealer and acklands grainger for quality tools and a napa, canadian tire (had very little luck with napa so far) and a sears that does not carry much of anything for tools. Snap-on seems to be the best bang for my buck even though pricey, it is an investment. I like mac and they are cheaper but I like a fine tooth ratchet like the snap-on ones. I appreciate the input though
 

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I would strongly suggest an Armstrong Maxx. 88 tooth, costs about $35. Same as Matco, much smoother than the Snap on.
 

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I like a round head for 1/4'' drive. I basically hold the ratchet inside my fist and the extension pokes out between my middle and index fingers.
 

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I have more than half a dozen 1/4 ratchets I actually use, frequently. HF stubby swivel head, MicroTouch, ratcheting handles, and most recently adapters for my huge collection of GearWrench ratchet wrenches, and I am still thinking about a EZ Red 1/4 stick.

3/8 I bought a nice Snapon, but 1/4 I want flexibility more than torque, and 1/2 just the opposite I want torque and indestructible, so I use Proto pears.
 

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I have a T72, THL72, TLL72 ordered, also have a soft long handle flex Mac that came in handy changing the heater blower motor resistor in my jeep. Ever since I joined GJ I have came to the conclusion I need at least 1 of every style ratchet in each drive size there is.
 

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I've got several 1/4 drive ratchets and I seem to use the Matco AFR68LFT the most.The T72 just sits there most of the time unless I need a really small ratchet.I'd like to try the 8" Matco 1/4 drive or the TLL72 though.
 
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As a fellow Canadian I certainly understand some of the challenges you face with respect to finding some of the brands which are so frequently spoken about on GJ. The moment you factor in shipping into Canada, brokerage and taxes there just isn't enough meat left on the bone to make it worthwhile ordering out of the US. Couple this with the hassle if you have to warranty the item. I have long since did all of the cost analysis and realized that for a ratchet, considering ease and speed of warranty, durability and the satisfaction index, Snap-On is not that out of whack. That said you really can't beat Crappy Tire because you could afford to buy every shape for the same money and the warranty is just as easy and reliable for hand tools.

In my fishing seminars and on the radio show, I often get asked the same question regarding really expensive tackle. Ultimately it depends on your budget and what you are able to buy, remembering that if a gold plated hammer prevents you from being able to afford nails, then maybe a less expensive hammer would have been a better purchase.

I am sure you probably have been checking out kijiji (Like CL in Canada) and for an alternative Babco has the Armstrong locking flex 1/4" ratchet (10-994) that most seem to think is superior to the Snap-On equivalent for $53. Or as another thread has identified, you could purchase the Bogo deal including the torque sockets, TL72, FL80 and sell what you don't want. I confirmed from my Snappy guy that it's the same price up here (~270$).

My choice would be for the TL72, price and everything else ignored. It's just long enough to help but not too big to defeat the purpose of 1/4".
 

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I would strongly suggest an Armstrong Maxx. 88 tooth, costs about $35. Same as Matco, much smoother than the Snap on.

If it is similar to the 3/8 I would say that the snap on dual 80 is much smooth then the 88 tooth matco. I own both and love my matco locking flex but its not a smooth as my dual 80s.
 

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I am not a SnapOn die hard, but they make the best ratchets out there. Slim, strong, and great fine tooth products.

I bought an EZ Red extendable fine tooth (72 i believe) a few months ago from my ******** dealer. The extendable part on it broke, I asked for a replacement, and he is nowhere to be found. It was a nice ratchet until the extendable handle busted. I will probably replace it next week with a SnapOn
 

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that armstrong looks short and bulky, usually in automotive when you need a 1/4 it is because of tight space
 

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Snappy makes a great ratchet, but if you can get Genius brand, they're pretty smooth once you put some Superlube in them. I recently was given a 3/8" drive and I'm a fan.

Otherwise, I'd buy another of your $5 specials - since it lasted 2 years of heavy use it only cost you $2.50 per year of use. You'd have to use the Snappy ratchet for 40+ years to get the cost down to $2.50 a year :)
 

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I have an armstrong maxx 10-994 and really like it. They are not 88t thet are 60t. There's some confusion about that.the armstrong aerospace ratchets are 88t. But the 88t matco rebuild kits work in the maxx so you can make it 88t if you want.
 
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^^ +1. I have the SO 72 locking flex. Makes working on my E350 bearable. Worth the $.
 

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If it is similar to the 3/8 I would say that the snap on dual 80 is much smooth then the 88 tooth matco. I own both and love my matco locking flex but its not a smooth as my dual 80s.

I agree that the Snap on 3/8 and 1/2 ratchets are smoother than Matco, but the Matco 1/4 are something special. Not saying that the Snappy is bad at all.

I sold my TL72 and T72 in favor of a Matco, I can't remember the exact model number but it's an 88 tooth with a soft grip handle.
 

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i just did a review on the 1/4 drive armstrongs at the gazzette . both the 88t aero and the 60t locking flex. it also has comparison pics of a lot of other ratchets including sk, proto and wright with it. here is a sample pic
 

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With a 1/4dr fixed head I'd go with either an SK or Craftsman RHFT. For a really nice all-around 1/4dr ratchet I like the Snap-on Swivel Head. You can straighten it out and use it as a screwdriver then swivel it down to tighten the bolt.
 

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Great information in this thread. I'd like to add my observations and experiences. Like most of you, Snap Ons are hard to beat in any drive size. In 1/4, I own Craftsman, SO, and Matco. the matco is the long handled model. I love that ratchet. In 1/4", I have to give a negative rating on the Craftsman Professional fine tooth model. I had one that saw MINIMAL use and the selector locked up and would not turn in either direction. I returned it to Sears and they mailed me a new one. This one came out of the box locked up, so I gave up on that one. I'm not bashing them as I am a 35 year user of Craftsman ratchets and n all honesty...this is the only one that I've had trouble with. FWIW..
 

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I really like my T850, roundhead std lenght SO. I use it 10 to 1 to my SO pearhead. My 2 cents, get the roundhead roto rachet.
 

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In 1/4" drive I have a Matco, Craftsman and a Mac. The Matco is a fixed head with long cushion grip handle, the CM is sort of short with a fixed head and push to release button and the Mac is a swivel head, also push to release. The CM has never had an issue, the Matco has popped the internal spring several times, the Mac is sort of new, but so far it is my favorite. I really like how easily it transitions from a driver to a wratchet.
 

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I have a few 1/4 ratchets Armstrong, Craftsman, and Habor Freight swivel head. The Armstrong is the best and smoothest but I use the cheap Harbor Freight the most just because it's so handy.
 

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I think the snap-on's are smoother than the Matco 88s. The reason I went with the Matcos though was due to the low profile head. Saved my **** more than once.
 

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agreed, snap-on 72 has a slightly smoother action than the 88 but other than that the matco wins flat out due to its slim 3/8'' head (72 is 7/16''). Its probably worth noting both ratchet designs have quality control issues where when under load they'll slip or lock up so its worth stressing it right away to make sure its okay.

Personally I like comfort grip flex/locking flex both due to the added utility of the design and its additional length.
 
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I like having a few if you can but one of my recent favorites is the Cornwell 1/4" swivel head ratchet. It is small, very strong, I broke a bolt free on a steering column in a very tight spot with it, then the big benefit is that you can point it upright and use it like a speed screwdriver.
 

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I really like my T72 ratchet. I like how small it is and I can get into tight spaces with it. I have put tons of torque on it and it was great.
 

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Depending whether you like rotohead ratchets or not the wera zyklops could be something to check out. Use it all the time for small stuff and its great to use as a ratcheting driver as it locks in the straight position and has a spinning collar. It has quick release and can be accessed in and position of the head as well as the reverse function. Everything about the design is well thought out and the action is smooth. They make a good 1/4 by hex bit adapter as well and their locking extensions all come with spinner sleeves on them.
 

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well my $5 one job ratchet finally died after 2 years of continuous use, I am looking into the snap-on dual 80 ratchets and have narrowed it down to 3, the TLL72, TL72 and the THL72. I like the price of the TLL72 and the TL72 and the longer handle but I like the soft grip. I just don't know if it is worth the extra $10 right now.. what do you think?

** I will be getting more than one in the near future, just looking to narrow it down to one for now **
I suggest a T72 or a THLF72. Those are my most used ratchets. T72 is good because there is no long handle or grip to really get in the way. I also like the THLF72 because I can exert a lot or torque and flex to clear obstacles. The comfort grip is also easy on my hands. I suggest you get a THLF72 instead of a THL72
 
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