Need faster internet

[Hot shot]

Hello everyone and merry Xmas
My internet service is a mifi through Verizon
My son is in an electrical apprenticeship and has to do the classes online
Sometimes it doesn’t work very well
Would a we boost help
I checked speeds on open signal and Verizon
Verizon download was 14 mbps
Upload was 1
Open signal download was 12
Upload was 2
Latency (whatever that is) was 35
Any help would be appreciated


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[Don1357]

Honestly it looks good. The average in the US is 12~25MBPS for downloads. As with you most service providers throttle their upload speeds (what goes from your house to the world) so people don't go crazy running servers from home. For a home user it doesn't matter; most of your consumption is downloads anyways as in streaming; the 1 mbps upload is good enough for most of what you would need (zoom, gaming).

You'll have to look at two things: Make sure nothing else is eating bandwidth while he's streaming his classes. If somebody else is listening to the radio, streaming music, playing online games, or watching netflix, well that's where your bandwidth is going. Second: His computer could be bogged down with adware, spamware, malware, bugs, viruses, troyans, and all sorts of other things that could be doing God knows what with his bandwidth. Is he up to date on his anti malware software?

 

[wyliesdiesels]

MiFi runs off a cellular tower and will not be great no matter what you do it.

Get a hardwired internet service.

35ms latency is not great but definitely not horrible.

BTW i get faster internet through my peplink router's cellular backup modem.

 

[Hot shot]

Nobody else is doing anything while he’s taking the class
Not sure about the malware
He has a MacBook Pro laptop


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[wyliesdiesels]

Nobody else is doing anything while he’s taking the class
Not sure about the malware
He has a MacBook Pro laptop


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highly unlikely to have malware on a mac

Is the mac connected wirelessly to the MiFi or hardwired?

how far away is it?

How far away are your neighbors? they might have an access point thats operating on the same channel as the MiFi

 

[Hot shot]

We live out in the country
No hardwired internet available


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[wyliesdiesels]

We live out in the country
No hardwired internet available


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There may be a WISP/wireless internet service provider, in your area.

they put a dish on your roof and connect it to a local tower a couple miles away. speeds are way better than cellular

 

[Hot shot]

Mac is connected wireless
It is right beside him
Nearest neighbor are 100yds away


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[HaiKarate]

10+mbps and 35ms latency isn't bad at all. The low upload speed may be the problem if you are running video on your end. If you are, try turn off the camera and see if things improve. One person in our house on a video zoom meeting can saturate our DSL connection (which has an upload speed in the neighborhood of yours).

 

[Hot shot]

So the weboost would be a waste of money



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[Hot shot]

He said sometimes he would have to get off of the zoom to take a test


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[86turbodsl]

check into Tmobile home internet. If you have a cell tower, you may be able to get it. I have it as a 2nd connection for work and i get 30Mbit / 10Mbit connection.

 

[walta]

What are your other local options?

Cable TV provider is generally the fastest home connection.
Telephone Company is the next most common option.
Point to point radio connections is becoming more popular in rural locations.https://wisperisp.com/
Since you are on a cell connection the above is not likely an option.
Satellite internet is also a possibility if you budget can take the cost.


Walta

 

[Hot shot]

Might have to talk to Verizon
I know after using a certain amount of gigabytes the speed slows down but is that download or upload speeds


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[wyliesdiesels]

what city do you live in? look for a WISP service in your area

 

[dogdog]

maybe this... but 5G in the US is sort of delayed. A lot of companies are invested heavily into it. Pretty sure most Major telcom have something into it.

https://www.verizon.com/5g/home/

 

[Hot shot]

The other option I might have is there is a company that may work
Back in September there was a company called riverstreet network in the area
They put lines in the ground on a main road
Sounds like what wylie mentioned. I went on their website and signed up to let them know I would be interested Haven’t heard any thing from them yet Heard through the grapevine back in September they were building a tower probably 10 to 15 miles from my house I guess when that gets up and running I can have somebody come out here and check the signal strength to my house and go from there
Anybody know anything about River Street networks I think they are based out of North Carolina

 

[jeepxj]

sign up for starlink.com alerts. get that service when its released for your area. not much you can do to resolve a mifi verizon speed issue.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Your speeds should handle it.

What is likely happening is other people are using the tower, and the bandwidth of the tower is shared by all users.

Chances are he’s trying to use it when it is busiest.

Riversreet has a service finder on their page. Give that a shot.

https://join.buildriverstreet.com/

 

[Kaizen]

Another vote for Elon musks’ starlink. Gonna be a game changer when it’s fully rolled out.
I’d be very careful about small resellers like you mentioned. Get guarantee and don’t lock in till you are sure it’s better.
Have your kid call in to zoom if he can. My video will work but add phone and it freezes.


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[wyliesdiesels]

The other option I might have is there is a company that may work
Back in September there was a company called riverstreet network in the area
They put lines in the ground on a main road
Sounds like what wylie mentioned. I went on their website and signed up to let them know I would be interested Haven’t heard any thing from them yet Heard through the grapevine back in September they were building a tower probably 10 to 15 miles from my house I guess when that gets up and running I can have somebody come out here and check the signal strength to my house and go from there
Anybody know anything about River Street networks I think they are based out of North Carolina

Negative.

WISPs do not have cable plants to the home. They are 100% fixed wireless from tower to customer.

Now a WISP may also do hardwired internet such as FTTH. but the wireless service does not use any wires to the home.

 

[Kaizen]

One other thought. Have your kid connect directly to your router with Ethernet cable. This will rule out some things and show if there is enough bandwith. My kid just had her apple devices up to their store as it had to be fixed and was not updating.


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[My Old Tools]

I have used both and both work. I switched from ATT to T-mobile for no data cap and faster bandwidth. I run 50 down consistently and see 85 on occasion. Both of these are 4G to the router.

https://www.t-mobile.com/isp

https://www.att.com/internet/fixed-wireless/

 

[wyliesdiesels]

I have used both and both work. I switched from ATT to T-mobile for no data cap and faster bandwidth. I run 50 down consistently and see 85 on occasion. Both of these are 4G to the router.

https://www.t-mobile.com/isp

https://www.att.com/internet/fixed-wireless/

Thats not as good as a regular dedicated WISP since the number of customers utilizing a cell tower can vary wildly as cell users move into and out of the towers coverage area. Also, AT&T site says its 10Mbps.

A true WISP fixed wireless service only serves buildings and no mobile customers so the bandwidth demand is more predictable and manageable.

 

[Farsana]

4G is a better option.

 

[KSJeff]

There's not much you can do other than finding a different provider. I'm rural as well and using a WImax solution from our county rural coop. It's by far the best it's ever been at 25Mbps down and 1Mbps up. I did have to pay to sink a tall telephone pole for the radio.

Cable is about 1/4 mile away and they wanted 16K to run the "last mile".

You might ask around and find out what everyone else in your area is using.

 

[gungatim]

So the weboost would be a waste of money



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call Verizon, they will GIVE you the booster for free (well loan it anyway). AT@T and SPrint all have boosters they will send you if you ask.

but 14megs down is damn good for LTE. I wouldn't complain, anything over 3mbps and you can stream without buffering.

there is no reason he can't do his class on that unless he's got something else running. (like alexa's firesticks, tv's and especially CELL PHONES on the network sucking up your bandwidth. turn OFF your wifi on your phones.

 

[Innovate1]

ATT stopped having cell boosters a few months ago, either for free or purchase. I contacted them about poor cell signal a few weeks ago. I was told I should use wifi calling instead. Couple problems with that - my phone was purchased unlocked not from ATT so doesn't support wifi calling even though the exact same model from ATT does.

I am in the suburbs and am also looking at ways to get better internet speed. I currently have ATT uverse but am far enough from the head end that I can't get video - I don't want video but it limits bandwidth for internet also. Seems like very limited options where I am.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

call Verizon, they will GIVE you the booster for free (well loan it anyway). AT@T and SPrint all have boosters they will send you if you ask.

but 14Mbps down is damn good for LTE. I wouldn't complain, anything over 3mbps and you can stream without buffering.

there is no reason he can't do his class on that unless he's got something else running. (like alexa's firesticks, tv's and especially CELL PHONES on the network sucking up your bandwidth. turn OFF your wifi on your phones.

The cell carriers are phasing out support for cell boosters and microcells because of VOLTE (voice over LTE) and wifi calling being available everywhere.

And 14Mbps may be good for your area but I can get 50Mbps to my cell on several towers here in town and my iPhone is 4+yrs old

ATT stopped having cell boosters a few months ago, either for free or purchase. I contacted them about poor cell signal a few weeks ago. I was told I should use wifi calling instead. Couple problems with that - my phone was purchased unlocked not from ATT so doesn't support wifi calling even though the exact same model from ATT does.

I am in the suburbs and am also looking at ways to get better internet speed. I currently have ATT uverse but am far enough from the head end that I can't get video - I don't want video but it limits bandwidth for internet also. Seems like very limited options where I am.

Are you sure? I bought a used unlocked iPhone 6s off of swappa and Wifi calling works just fine on it.

Any WISPs in your area or neighbors with WISP service whom you could share the service with by putting up a wireless bridge between the properties using UBNT radios?

BTW I have a microcell i got from AT&T 3yrs ago. I haven't used it in a couple years so i don't know if it still works but i could check it out and see if it does.

 

[Innovate1]

Are you sure? I bought a used unlocked iPhone 6s off of swappa and Wifi calling works just fine on it.

Any WISPs in your area or neighbors with WISP service whom you could share the service with by putting up a wireless bridge between the properties using UBNT radios?

BTW I have a microcell i got from AT&T 3yrs ago. I haven't used it in a couple years so i don't know if it still works but i could check it out and see if it does.

I'm sure. It's a Samsung J7. ATT versions have wifi calling. I bought mine at Best Buy several years ago thinking it was identical. It doesn't have wifi calling. I have confirmed that several ways.

Not sure about WISPs but it appears about the only option to me is ATT or someone like Earthlink that offers the same level of service and I am guessing uses the same lines through some sort of arrangement with ATT. It is slightly more expensive than ATT.

 

[theoldwizard1]

MiFi runs off a cellular tower and will not be great no matter what you do it.

Get a hardwired internet service.

The first statement is half correct. The second is 100% correct.


Anything that uses cell towers depends on how far you are from that tower, how many obstruction are in the way and how busy that tower is. And if your plan has any restrictions !

The following IS a paid promotion, but I believe these people to be honest and would not out and out lie to the public (as YouTube "celebrities", honesty is their stock in trade). They live in the "middle of nowhere" in MO.

FINALLY...A RURAL Internet Service that WORKS!

The key take away from the video are

• Get TWO, good quality, directional antennas that are mounted as high as is practical. (They are using Wilson Electronics Wideband Directional Yagi High Gain Antennas. About $60 each on Amazon.)
• Buy/rent a good modem/router/wireless access point (WAP). Make sure it is capable of all 4G frequencies and uses external antennas.
• They are using Nomad Internet that "rides on top of" Verizon, AT&T, Sprint or T-Mobile. Not a requirement.

Does anyone recognize the make and model of this router ?

 

[theoldwizard1]

maybe this... but 5G in the US is sort of delayed. A lot of companies are invested heavily into it. Pretty sure most Major telcom have something into it.

IMHO, 5G is a SCAM invented to sell for telephones !

5G uses two different frequencies.

• Frequency Range 1 (FR1)is in the same "band" as current 4G. It has about the same coverage and is only marginally faster.
• FR2 is much higher. It is capable a much faster through put, but the range is very limited and any physical obstructions will kill the signal.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Another vote for Elon musks’ starlink. Gonna be a game changer when it’s fully rolled out.

YAWN ! And I will be a very, VERY Old Wizard if I am still alive !

 

[Kaizen]

YAWN ! And I will be a very, VERY Old Wizard if I am still alive !

Lmao man you are on a tear today.
I believe they are in beta now. If the guy didn’t own a few spaceships I’d agree with you.


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[jd_1138]

I'd just get cable internet unless your area has fiber then get that. But I pay like $55 a month for 175 mbps down and 12 mbps up. Used to be like 50 mbps, but I called them and found out for $5 extra a month I could triple the speed.

I dumped cable TV. I wasn't watching all that junk. But fast internet is a must.

 

[gungatim]

The cell carriers are phasing out support for cell boosters and microcells because of VOLTE (voice over LTE) and wifi calling being available everywhere.

And 14Mbps may be good for your area but I can get 50Mbps to my cell on several towers here in town and my iPhone is 4+yrs old



Are you sure? I bought a used unlocked iPhone 6s off of swappa and Wifi calling works just fine on it.

Any WISPs in your area or neighbors with WISP service whom you could share the service with by putting up a wireless bridge between the properties using UBNT radios?

BTW I have a microcell i got from AT&T 3yrs ago. I haven't used it in a couple years so i don't know if it still works but i could check it out and see if it does.

the key with all those getting high speeds is your location. notice you are in California...the midwest and country rural are not served by anything but sattelite do not get speeds anywhere close to that.

some sites on reddit people post 100mbps+ speeds on LTE, but they they are always in bit cities or states like NY, CA, etc...the other 85% of the country is not served by high speed, thus all these posts on how to speed up my internet...

you can't even get 50mbps with Hughesnet sattelite....i've tried almost every service out there and recorded my speeds and which ones can be hacked with my router.

Total wireless: 14mbps capped

Verizon: 7-24mbps average 12mbps hackable unlimited, have hit 700gig in a month many times.

AT&T tablet plan:3-12mbps average 7mbps unlimited, sometimes slows.

Net 10: 1-3mbps, not hackable, capped speed not really unlimited

new AT&T: 7mbps not hackable, capped speed not really unlimited.

Cricket: 7-14mbps true unlimited (so far the best bang for the buck) month 2 and i am still getting ~400gigs a month.

T-mobile: 24-34mbps - get free test drive modem every 6 mths I have 5 of them now so I haven't tried the hack yet. not cost effective and not unlimited

Hughesnet: 12-24mbps capped at 100gig. not cost effective.

I haven't tried mint mobile yet because they screw you making you buy 3 mths to start.

there's other resellers out there I try to buy one sim card every few months to see what I can do with it...

 

[dogdog]

IMHO, 5G is a SCAM invented to sell for telephones !

5G uses two different frequencies.

• Frequency Range 1 (FR1)is in the same "band" as current 4G. It has about the same coverage and is only marginally faster.
• FR2 is much higher. It is capable a much faster through put, but the range is very limited and any physical obstructions will kill the signal.

Not sure if you are old enough when 1G were being deployed.. then the PCS. They all have the same issue (obstacles) that have been ironed out through out the years. You do remember the days when you get a page inside a tunnel right without special repeaters?

since you were a Network Admin... maybe this analogy is better for you.
I swear when I was talking to a Novell Engineer-Ma-Neer years ago that they swear they were the "King" of the networks. Or Microsoft think they are the only game in town with desktops.

What is this whole point... Things Change. Don't be afraid of Changes.

 

[Metal-Marc]

The following IS a paid promotion, but I believe these people to be honest and would not out and out lie to the public (as YouTube "celebrities", honesty is their stock in trade). They live in the "middle of nowhere" in MO.

FINALLY...A RURAL Internet Service that WORKS!

The key take away from the video are

[*]They are using Nomad Internet that "rides on top of" Verizon, AT&T, Sprint or T-Mobile. Not a requirement.
[/LIST]

It's a boring 25 minute infomercial. I made it halfway before bailing out. Don't waste your time watching the video.

Is the provider good or not, meh I don't know. I'm using something similar, and the service is ok, speed is from meh to ok. It just gives me a good reason to get out of the house and into the garage to do usefull stuff.

 

[dogdog]

.............


Does anyone recognize the make and model of this router ?

LOL

Just google 4G LTE modem. You'll probably get that in your first hit.

doesn't matter it's still 4G will be Yesteryear soon. All these dependents on the provider , towers and links, terrains just like any other radio communication.

https://www.outdoorrouter.com/product/4g-lte-router-cellular-modem-mimo-wifi/

 

[ezzzzzzz]

I moved into the country with no cable internet available although the service is there just 1/2 mile down the road. The neighbors said that Verizon and Hughes Net were the only game. Verizon sucked although a cell tower was line of sight about 3 miles away. We hated it, especially the wife who is a teacher. On a fluke I dropped by Sprint, now T Mobile, to see what they offered. Turns out the cell tower is Shentel and Sprint antennas were at the top while Verizon was at the bottom. We doubled our gigs with no additional cost and service is as good as fiber 99% of the time. Check around and you might find a similar situation.