Need help Identifying three tools

[Boiler]

I've got 3 tools I can't identify and would love any help you guys might have for me.

#1 Snap On S-9831 (1953 date code). about 12" long

#2 SNAP-ON TOOLS CORP (no other markings) Photos show each end in detail

#3 Borroughs Quality, Kalamazoo MI - BT-3565. Photos show different arm positions and how they affect the tool underneath.

 

[Boiler]

/bump

Nobody? I figure the first is some sort of belt tensioner or something?

 

[mtnkrake]

The first one looks like some sort of flywheel/flexplate turner.

 

[larry_g]

I have your #2 tool that I was going to post as a whatzit. It came from my FIL who was a diesel mechanic in the late 50's to the 70's. So I assume it is some diesel related tool. Mine has a patent number on it.

lg
no neat sig line

 

[rsieracki]

im thinking some type or drum brake/brake spring tools on the t handle thing

 

[wornoutoldman]

Looks like something to flip belts on and off

 

[Mikesdad]

Could #1 be used to remove the plugs from metal 55 gallon barrels?

 

[Bruce Lancaster]

Agree that #1 is flywheel engine turner, #2 is for sure an ignition point tool (what was that diesel guy doing with it??) used for aligning points after installation. Essentially a small bending tool fit heads to grip various parts of point arms. Want both if you're gonna sellem! No idea on #3.

 

[larry_g]

http://pzphotosan111-r.blogspot.com/

My tool is branded Allen but the patent number led me to the above page that is what mine looks like. Note that the ribbed piece will slide over the notch in the end of the arm. As far as a diesel mechanic having one it would be for the pony motor on the early Cat engines as well as for the mag or distributor on the TD series International motors. For those who do not know the TD series motors started on gas and then when warm you switched to running on diesel.

lg
no neat sig line

 

[Milton Shaw]

First is a flywheel holder/turner. 2nd is a point adjusting tool and I have one, 3rd looks like something to bend wire or spring into a right angle. haven't seen anything like it.

 

[Boiler]

First is a flywheel holder/turner. 2nd is a point adjusting tool and I have one, 3rd looks like something to bend wire or spring into a right angle. haven't seen anything like it.

I think you're right. I think #3 is for bending some small piece of metal anyway.

Thanks guys for all the help!

 

[BlindViper]

I would guess #3 is to bend wire. I would put a piece in there and twist and see what you get.

 

[larry_g]

Taking a second look at the #3 item it being a Burroughs tool it very well could be for setting arms on a typewriter or printer that uses swinging arms.

Ah a search on burroughs tool found this
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~hancockm/tools_of_the_trade.htm

Alignment tool

lg
no neat sig line

 

[BlindViper]

Taking a second look at the #3 item it being a Burroughs tool it very well could be for setting arms on a typewriter or printer that uses swinging arms.

Ah a search on burroughs tool found this
http://home.ix.netcom.com/~hancockm/tools_of_the_trade.htm

Alignment tool

lg
no neat sig line

but thats burroughs the tool definitely looks like borroughs

 

[Boiler]

Yes it looks like it is spelled Borroughs. I've had other Borroughs tools before, but I can't find **** about them now for some reason. The only thing solid I found on google was my own old ebay auction, in which case I spelled it Burroughs....

 

[BlindViper]

well i found 8 or so patents for Borroughs Tool Equipment Corporation and Borroughs Corporation. Nothing under the patents look like the tool you have.

edit
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...ghs&FIELD1=ASNM&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=PALL

have u tried playing with some wire with it?

 

[Boiler]

Borroughs made a lot of specialty sockets from what I've seen. Their sockets are called out in some install and repair instructions from what I've seen too. I get their stuff about as often as I get Kent Moore tools.

 

[Bruce Lancaster]

I think they supplied GM at one time. I believe I have some early 1950's carb tools for various Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs.

 

[Boiler]

Yep, I've had several oval sockets from them and a bunch of prong sockets.

 

[Wrenches of Death]

I've got 3 tools I can't identify and would love any help you guys might have for me.

Man, it hasn't been THAT long since ignition points were still state of the art.

The second tool is an ignition points adjustment tool. It was used to tweak the arm and the base so that the contacts are exactly parallel and centered. I've still got a couple of variants around here in my tool box. I actually used one last year. One of mine is made for the "t" profile breaker arms.

The third tool looks like it might be for adjusting (by bending) the linkages of choke pull offs and vacuum breaks on carburetors.

Hope this helps.

WoD

 

[usdemt]

Number 3 looks like it would work to bend cotter pins, nothing to base this off of, and I cant tell size, but I could see it being used for that.