Neiko Tools "USA"

[rodm1]

China produces military-style firearms for export to the USA

That is incorrect! They are band from import to the US since 1994 (Ammunition is included). He should have banned all imports from china.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[otis66]

Heres another thing that gripes my ***...


Im in the market for a set of metric wrenches in larger sizes... IE maybe Starting around 13mm instead of 8mm... I must have 10 8mm wrenches to my name. Well Im eyeing up the craftsman pro (or posibly the matco long patterns depending on what the truck can get them to me for) so I did a quick search on ebay to see if anybody had any deals. Well...

Look at this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-Pc-Neiko-Soft...1QQihZ014QQcategoryZ29527QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

They are branded by Neiko Tools USA... Is that legal? They Say USA right on them like most of thier other products, but Im willing to bet quite a bit that they arnt made here in the US. In fact, IIRC I remember seeing Made in China on the big roll these HF type tool tents had at the sway meet.

Is this legal? Or are they actually made here? There are tons of thiese Neiko USA items floating around on ebay

Jim

If these wrenches are not made in the USA It is not legal to put USA on them.

 

[rodm1]

If these wrenches are not made in the USA It is not legal to put USA on them.

If the companies legal name is "Neiko Tools USA" it would.

 

[Steve_P]

I have a few neiko items like hex/torx bits, and I think they are all Taiwan. I haven't used them a lot but they appear to be typical Taiwan tool quality, which, honestly, is generally pretty good. I do try and buy US whenever possible. The USA in their name is a bit misleading, but it's obvious to me I'm not buying a US tool with a name like Neiko, and at that price point.

A lot of US tool companies are worse IMO as they put their name and US HQ location printed on the tool and the item is made overseas: Marson rivet gun is one I can think of offhand. It doesn't say it is made in Taiwan on the tool, only on the box, and the tool lists the US address. And then there is HF with all their US sounding names. At least Neiko sounds asian, as opposed to Pittsburg Forge, etc.

OTC should change their name to TTC for Taiwan Tool Co- all the stuff I've bought from them in the last few years has been Taiwan- less their axle sockets.

 

[americanpatriot]

Gentlemen, here are a few more "USA/American" imposters:

American Standard Brands --> Ingersoll-Rand plc (Swords, Fingal, Ireland) --> americanstandard-us.com

Gunold USA --> Gunold GmbH (Stockstadt, Germany) --> gunold.com/embroidery-thread-conversion-chart.htm

Saab USA --> Saab Automobile AB --> Spyker Cars (Zeewolde, Netherlands)

Sennheiser USA --> Sennheiser electronic GmbH & Co. KG (Wedemark, Hanover, Lower Saxony, Germany) --> sennheiserusa.com

T-Mobile USA, Inc. --> T-Mobile International AG --> Deutsche Telekom AG (Bonn, Germany)

Volkswagen of America, Inc --> Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft (Wolfsburg, Germany) --> vw.com


And don't forget a few of the biggest imposters I posted previously:

American Power Conversion (APC)--> Schneider Electric (Rueil-Malmaison, France)

American Idol --> Bertelsmann AG (Gütersloh, Germany)

American Stock Exchange (AMEX) --> NYSE Alternext U.S. --> NYSE Amex Equities --> NYSE Euronext --> Euronext (Amsterdam, Netherlands)

BMW of North America --> Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (German) (Translation: Bavarian Motor Works) --> bmwusa.com

Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC --> Daimler AG (German) --> mbusa.com

New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) --> NYSE Euronext --> Euronext (Amsterdam, Netherlands)


And look at Bloomberg's article today (Feb 26, 20113) on what that f'n foreigner Budweiser Anheuser–Busch InBev (Belgian) is doing to American beer drinkers:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-26/ab-inbev-overstates-alcohol-in-budweiser-lawsuit-claims.html

Pennsylvanian beer drinkers are suing the Belgian Inbev for diluting our beers with water! At least Maker's Mark told us about it, and retracted their mistake. But Inbev is denying this. I wonder if they dilute their beers for their Belgium citizens.

I only drink Sam Adams.

 

[Steinmetz]

Heres another thing that gripes my ***...


Im in the market for a set of metric wrenches in larger sizes... IE maybe Starting around 13mm instead of 8mm... I must have 10 8mm wrenches to my name. Well Im eyeing up the craftsman pro (or posibly the matco long patterns depending on what the truck can get them to me for) so I did a quick search on ebay to see if anybody had any deals. Well...

Look at this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-Pc-Neiko-Soft...1QQihZ014QQcategoryZ29527QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

They are branded by Neiko Tools USA... Is that legal? They Say USA right on them like most of thier other products, but Im willing to bet quite a bit that they arnt made here in the US. In fact, IIRC I remember seeing Made in China on the big roll these HF type tool tents had at the sway meet.

Is this legal? Or are they actually made here? There are tons of thiese Neiko USA items floating around on ebay

Jim[/QUOTE

If I remember correctly, neiko tools has is their registered trademark.

 

[Steinmetz]

Neiko tools usa is the tm.

 

[toolstools]

 

[Armstrong1720]

U know they renamed a town USA dont u ? Their not lieing it is made in the usa lmao

 

[americanpatriot]

Speaking of beating a dead horse, be careful of IKEA meatballs. People of 14 countries in the Old World have been fed horse meat balls disguised as Swedish meatballs. They claim that shipments to the US aren't affected, but if those meatball shipments to the US are NOT affected, this means that those meatballs are made in Europe. First of all, I'm ain't eat'n meat probably made in Czech or Bulgaria, but second of all, I ain't eat'n meat from Europe period when we've good ol' American farmers making the best beef in the world.

Remember back in 2010 when Kraft Foods' takeover of Cadbury (British candy maker) made the Brits throw a fit?

Here's Wikipedia's understated description of the Brit reaction:

"The acquisition of Cadbury faced widespread disapproval from the British public, as well as groups and organisations including trade union Unite,[29] who fought against the acquisition of the company which, according to Prime Minister Gordon Brown, was very important to the British economy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadbury#Kraft_Foods_takeover_.282010.29

In fact, after the Kraft takeover, Cadbury's sales dropped. According to DailyRecord, Cadbury sales dropped from £500million in 2006 to £300million in 2010/11. What do you know? 2010 is when Kraft bought Cadbury.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/business-consumer/cadburys-sales-plummet-1268768

In 2011, Kraft had to split off Cadbury to Mondelēz International, probably to buffer itself from the Brits.

Just remember, many of our iconic American brands like Gerber, Eureka, BFGoodrich, Miller, Alka-Seltzer, Ray-Ban, Oakley, Sunglass Hut, LensCrafters, Brooks Brothers, Motel 6, Wild Turkey are NO LONGER AMERICAN!

I don't feed my baby Gerber anymore; I buy Earth's Best now, owned by the Hain Celestial Group in Melville, New York, USA!

 

[rick carpenter]

Neiko Tools USA refers to the division/distributor of Neiko that is in the US. This is common naming practice in business/industry. It's the "Made in..." that matters to the FTC and a lot of people on this forum. Even that's not simple though, Maglights are Made in USA but not of 100% US content.

I do agree that the USA logo on the package is meant to mislead the consumers. However, this practice is not limited to the company that imports the Neiko products. Other American corporations also do the same thing for other imports if they can get away with it. So it pays to be a smart consumer.

Whether intentionally misleading or not, it can be deceptive to less astute customers. And if that means more sales, then it's good business practice for them.

 

[ishiboo]

If you give a **** about country of origin, you understand "American ***" and "*** USA" as a brand versus "Made in USA".

It's part marketing, but also the most logical name for the US-based branch of a company which often is somewhat of a separate operating unit primarily for sales, marketing and support in a different market. IE "BMW North America".

You know Marvin Gaye was not gay, right?

 

[ishiboo]

Neiko Tools USA refers to the division/distributor of Neiko that is in the US. This is common naming practice in business/industry. It's the "Made in..." that matters to the FTC and a lot of people on this forum. Even that's not simple though, Maglights are Made in USA but not of 100% US content.



Whether intentionally misleading or not, it can be deceptive to less astute customers. And if that means more sales, then it's good business practice for them.

110%. I didn't need to post if I had seen yours first!

 

[mmack66]

I'm a new member. I found this thread while trying to get opinions on Neiko tap and die kits. Reading this thread has prompted me to re-evaluate everything I buy, so I did some research. Here's some brands that try to appear American (some subtly, others blatantly). I'll be thinking twice before I send my money foreign.

Mercedes-Benz USA --> Daimler AG (German) --> mbusa.com

BMW of North America --> Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (German) --> Bavarian Motor Works --> bmwusa.com
(Btw, "Bayerische" is for "Bavarian." Bavaria is a State in Germany that was the center of Nazism, the Blask Sun, the Thule Society, and where some people still deny the holocaust.)

Michelin, BFGoodrich, Uniroyal --> SCA Compagnie Générale des Établissements Michelin (French) --> michelin-us.com

Gerber (baby products) --> Nestlé S.A. (Swiss)

Eureka (vacuum cleaners) --> AB Electrolux (Swedish)

Budweiser, the Great American Lager --> Anheuser–Busch InBev (Belgian) --> budweiser.com

Coors, A Rocky Mountain Tradition --> Molson Coors Brewing Company (Canadian, though I don't mind Canada at all)
(In researching this, I found that the Coors family is anti-gay/lesbian and makes anti-gay political contributions. I'm not gay, but I don't like people messing with other people's prerogatives. I used to drink Coors because it's Kosher, but the only American and Kosher beer that I can easily get is Sam Adams. I'm not Jewish, but I don't like beers finished with fish scales. Plus, if it's Kosher, then it doesn't have carminic/cochineal insect food coloring to give alcohols a nice amber color.)

Miller Genuine Draft --> SABMiller plc (Britain)

Ghirardelli Chocolate Company --> Lindt & Sprüngli (Switzerland) --> ghirardelli.com
(These guys even say they are American in their webpage. F'n liars. So I tried to buy Godiva for my daugher, but that stuff is owned by Yıldız Holding in Istanbul, Turkey.)

I'm going to dig up some more foreign fakeouts.

Ok, I promised more foreign fakeouts.
These brands are imposters.
Buy American and keep our jobs here at home!


American Power Conversion --> Schneider Electric (Rueil-Malmaison, France)

New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) --> NYSE Euronext --> Deutsche Börse (Frankfurt am Main, Germany)

American Stock Exchange (AMEX) --> NYSE Alternext U.S. --> NYSE Amex Equities --> NYSE Euronext --> Deutsche Börse (Frankfurt am Main, Germany)

Chrysler --> Fiat Società per azioni (Turin, Italy)

Trader Joe's --> Theo Albrecht (Germany)

Alka-Seltzer --> Bayer Schering Pharma AG (Berlin-Wedding, Germany)

Hellmann's and Best Foods --> Unilever N.V. and PLC (Britain & The Netherlands)

Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream --> Unilever N.V. and PLC (Britain & The Netherlands)

Vaseline --> Unilever N.V. and PLC (Britain & The Netherlands)

Purina (Pet food) --> Nestlé S.A. (Switzerland)

Everlast (Boxing) --> Sports Direct International PLC (Britain)

Brooks Brothers --> Retail Brand Alliance (Italy)

Ray-Ban, Oakley, Sunglass Hut, LensCrafters, and Pearle Vision --> Luxottica Group S.p.A. (Agordo, Italy)

Motel 6 --> Accor (Courcouronnes, France)

American Idol (TV talent show) --> Bertelsmann AG (Gütersloh, Germany)

French's (Mustard) --> Reckitt Benckiser PLC (Britain)

Wild Turkey (Bourbon) --> Pernod Ricard (Paris, France)

Gentlemen, here are a few more "USA/American" imposters:

American Standard Brands --> Ingersoll-Rand plc (Swords, Fingal, Ireland) --> americanstandard-us.com

Gunold USA --> Gunold GmbH (Stockstadt, Germany) --> gunold.com/embroidery-thread-conversion-chart.htm

Saab USA --> Saab Automobile AB --> Spyker Cars (Zeewolde, Netherlands)

Sennheiser USA --> Sennheiser electronic GmbH & Co. KG (Wedemark, Hanover, Lower Saxony, Germany) --> sennheiserusa.com

T-Mobile USA, Inc. --> T-Mobile International AG --> Deutsche Telekom AG (Bonn, Germany)

Volkswagen of America, Inc --> Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft (Wolfsburg, Germany) --> vw.com


And don't forget a few of the biggest imposters I posted previously:

American Power Conversion (APC)--> Schneider Electric (Rueil-Malmaison, France)

American Idol --> Bertelsmann AG (Gütersloh, Germany)

American Stock Exchange (AMEX) --> NYSE Alternext U.S. --> NYSE Amex Equities --> NYSE Euronext --> Euronext (Amsterdam, Netherlands)

BMW of North America --> Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (German) (Translation: Bavarian Motor Works) --> bmwusa.com

Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC --> Daimler AG (German) --> mbusa.com

New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) --> NYSE Euronext --> Euronext (Amsterdam, Netherlands)


And look at Bloomberg's article today (Feb 26, 20113) on what that f'n foreigner Budweiser Anheuser–Busch InBev (Belgian) is doing to American beer drinkers:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-26/ab-inbev-overstates-alcohol-in-budweiser-lawsuit-claims.html

Pennsylvanian beer drinkers are suing the Belgian Inbev for diluting our beers with water! At least Maker's Mark told us about it, and retracted their mistake. But Inbev is denying this. I wonder if they dilute their beers for their Belgium citizens.

I only drink Sam Adams.

Imposters? What? These companies aren't trying to fool anyone.

 

[willhollin]

You know Marvin Gaye was not gay, right?

Where did you hear that from?

 

[Nocturnal-G]

So many things I'd love to say but I will refrain...

As for the OP, instead of buying Neiko... buy Kobalt. It might not be American but the quality is up there. You can always buy Craftsman stuff before it all switches to China as well.

 

[retDAC]

Neiko Tools USA refers to the division/distributor of Neiko that is in the US. This is common naming practice in business/industry. It's the "Made in..." that matters to the FTC and a lot of people on this forum. Even that's not simple though, Maglights are Made in USA but not of 100% US content.



Whether intentionally misleading or not, it can be deceptive to less astute customers. And if that means more sales, then it's good business practice for them.

Except in this case Neiko Tools has no single importer. Read post #1 here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127264

If anybody knows of a sole Neiko importer, please post a link so I can see it for myself.

 

[kythri]

And look at Bloomberg's article today (Feb 26, 20113) on what that f'n foreigner Budweiser Anheuser–Busch InBev (Belgian) is doing to American beer drinkers:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-26/ab-inbev-overstates-alcohol-in-budweiser-lawsuit-claims.html

Pennsylvanian beer drinkers are suing the Belgian Inbev for diluting our beers with water! At least Maker's Mark told us about it, and retracted their mistake. But Inbev is denying this. I wonder if they dilute their beers for their Belgium citizens.

I only drink Sam Adams.

So, people are just now mad about water being sold as Budweiser beer? Where were they 50 years ago?

 

[Andrew LB]

About two years ago I bought a Neiko 1.5mm HVLP spray gun and I hate to admit it, but it's a great gun for the money. And not in the same sense of how the $14.99 harbor freight gun is. That gun is only a great buy because it is so incredibly cheap and actually does have the ability to spray paint. This Neiko gun is easily on par with guns running well over $100, and IMO lays down a better finish than my DeVILBISS Finishline 4 which cost me 4x the Neiko. The only downside is it's a little heavy.

When it comes to using one of these guns, the truth is that it's 90% operator and 10% gun. Years ago I was telling my father who is an accomplished artist, how I was going to buy some very expensive paint brushes for an art class and he said "so let me get this straight... if I gave you Rembrandt's brushes, you'll be able to paint like Rembrandt?". His wisdom holds true here and can be applied to most tools.
I've used $500+ SATA guns owned by a friend who runs an autobody shop and the results were almost identical to what I'd normally do with my Neiko, which were still darn good.

 

[rick carpenter]

I only drink Sam Adams.

Sam Adams is an import. Anything from north of the Mason-Dixon line is.

 

[Hootbro]

Sam Adams is an import. Anything from north of the Mason-Dixon line is.

The South lost the war, so the term is nostalgic only.

 

[rick carpenter]

The South lost the war, so the term is nostalgic only.

Whenever I'm out of my beloved South, I'm in a whole 'nother country!

 

[123Go]

Its not just foreign companies lying! Early this yr I filed formal complaints with FTC & BBB against Sears Craftsman for falsely advertiseing their tool sets being "Made In USA" on thier website, Amazon site,Ace Hardware ect..

Since most or all are no longer made here It ticked me off to say the least. But advertising they were well' ...After the first month BBB sent me a email saying Sears was sorry and asked if Id except this and close the complaint. I replied "no" since they all still show USA in COO on sites. I recieved an email a few weeks later saying it was a closed matter. So' I filed another one. They can kiss my
Never heard anything from it but now on most sites, including Amazons I see "Made in China" in Craftsman descriptions and COO. Maybe FTC fixed it I never heard from them at all??? Who knows but I doubt it since FTC let GM tout in their commercials "they paid off the government buy out" only weeks after getting it. Humm? They still owe us billions today, wth? Paid some from a tarp loan..lol
{meaning they actually barrowed even more to pay some of it}..
Its been months now since my complaints but just
watching folks avoiding Neiko China **** then running to get Craftsman China **** I cant help but have a scratch my head moment, "hope they know"?..
So for the folks who dont know this, here goes.

If a Craftsman tool dont have "Made in USA" stamped right on it, its made in the turd world.
I know its been discussed many times on this site in the last few yrs but I still see people that dont know yet. Its not our fathers Craftsman anymore so read the tool itself for USA and for proof its from china read the package. Its very tiny on the back of the package!
Theres still some left on the shelf but its a small amount of USA made so get them asap.

Neiko USA tools are made here damnit' Their name is CHINA!
Sorry so long a post, nothing better to do at 3:00am ..

 

[quattroJoe]

I'm not defending Neiko, I do think this is deceptive and underhanded. That said, Harbor Freight has been doing it for years, labeling their Chinese products as U.S. General, Pittsburgh Tools (a city synonymous with the American steel industry,) and Chicago Electric.

At least they named their store appropriately, since everything in there came off of a boat!

 

[Farmall450]

All I have is a set of punches and chisels in a Orange Pouch. It state the Neiko USA name on it. The tools have no indicator of where they are made. All it states on them is in English CR-V Safety Google.

This was not my usually buy, I flip and look. I was told by a friend who had them it was USA so I took them.

From family sources in Asia who are Asian and involved in business development. Business in China. Chinese can have their own private businesses up to certain sizes. Me starting my own company in China without
a Chinese partner, usually someone involved in the government. Their type of graft. NO.

Some companies have put their "own plants" in china usually on some type of deal where the government gets something. It may be a tech transfer at the minimum, which means some dumb CEO just set up their own competition. They are run a separate subsidiary incorporated in China usually with some hidden Chinese ownership, it takes huge political pull or payoffs to bypass that step. Usually the better way to describe it is they have a dedicated plant.

But then this is nothing new. In WW II both the Axis and Allies used Ford trucks and had their own assembly lines for them. Maybe that inspires some of the fear in older people.

Also do not get my started about who owns the tooling. That is a whole different issue. It is something wise to own, that way you have some leverage, the deal that makes the tooling for you is you cannot make your own product. States, very easily why after about a year, another company making identical items at a slightly lower cost.

Yes the Chinese have companies in the USA. Harder to trace but they are there.

On the last part, Milwaukee is one of these sadly.

 

[krdiesel03]

Some of the companies listed do make products in the US. I would rather buy a french tire made in Greenville SC than a Goodyear made in Brazil. Or what about a BMW also from Greenville SC or a Ford from Mexico? There are allot of European cars made in the US now.
We are seeing some manufacturing move back to the states but we will never see steel, tools, or anything of that nature move back, and I expect to see all tools move off shore in less than 10 years. I know Western Forge is looking to move overseas because of the EPA not labor prices.

I go out of my way to buy US made when I can, not just a "US" company. --F-250 and SHO.

Try and buy a US computer or phone other than the MotoX that is US made.

 

[1982fxr]

Some of the companies listed do make products in the US. I would rather buy a french tire made in Greenville SC than a Goodyear made in Brazil. Or what about a BMW also from Greenville SC or a Ford from Mexico? There are allot of European cars made in the US now.
We are seeing some manufacturing move back to the states but we will never see steel, tools, or anything of that nature move back, and I expect to see all tools move off shore in less than 10 years. I know Western Forge is looking to move overseas because of the EPA not labor prices.

I go out of my way to buy US made when I can, not just a "US" company. --F-250 and SHO.

Try and buy a US computer or phone other than the MotoX that is US made.

can you elaborate on this? Where is the info coming from?

 

[Loscaldazar]

Interested on the source for WF moving over seas, as it is owned/closely related to Ideal, who is focusing on keeping everything US made.

 

[krdiesel03]

Politician I know in Colorado was talking about the upcoming emissions regs that are planed for the next few years, it will make it almost impossible to have certain industries in the US.

Example is coal power, epa is looking at declaring coal ash as a hazmat.

 

[123Go]

My pc is not made in China...I have two and both are made here.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/le...ers-north-carolina-facility/story?id=19334715

 

[BrokenKnuckles]

There's a 'rest of the story' picture to this Asian Tool invasion...

I spent some time over 'there', and even participated in a few work contracts.

I was surprised when my Asian associates pointed me to certain manufacturers and brands that we seldom if ever hear about over here, when I/we needed some quality stuff to get things done. Believe it or don't... it does exist!

The big exporters that work and share the proceeds with the political overbosses ship us junk. They know we wouldn't buy Chinese if it was the same price as American iron, so they send us stuff made from inferior materials by cheap illiterate labor and will continue to reap the profits as long as there's a market for it.

Once in a great while, an Asian manufacturer will test the waters and send over something that is made of super forged material that is really solid... But hey, how does the average knuckle-buster know that it's good? The poor reputation earned by the export pirates is usually enough to keep the quality line of tools from ever gaining any kind of foothold and they give up on the program. And since it ends up being about as expensive as American made anyway, why wouldn't we buy the American equivalent anyway?

Yes, we do... and we of course should.

But I just thought it was interesting to discover they can and do make very quality products for their own (and other Asian) markets.

 

[kelpaso1]

My pc is not made in China...I have two and both are made here.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/le...ers-north-carolina-facility/story?id=19334715

There's a business case to be had for manufacturing here in the U.S.," Lenovo's North American President Jay Parker told ABC News' "World News" in an interview at the new facility. "Some customers desire to have products that are assembled in the U.S. and so we believe it's a competitive advantage for us."

Lenovo hopes to assemble several hundred thousand units in the first full year of production with two eight-hour shifts five days a week. The products will be made primarily for the U.S. market and will be shipped throughout the country.The computers will be assembled in North Carolina, but much of the parts and components, including the processor and RAM, will be made overseas and imported.

Lenovo, which was started in China and is headquartered in Beijing, will still make the majority of its products in its native country. It, along with many of the other major computer makers, moved production offshore when overseas labor became cheaper.

Sorry your computer IS MADE IN CHINA