Never BIG enough: Shop addition

[Hounddog]

Looks like the build is almost complete and the fun is starting
I like your old phone booth and yard stove redue. Now how about those fryes

Thanks Don for stopping by.

Those Frys are waiting their turn... I'm real good at collecting projects. Hopefully I'll get to them in the next few years... There's a 28 Ford that will get done first.

 

[don long]

Thanks Don for stopping by.

I'm real good at collecting projects. Those Frys are waiting their turn...

Hounddog
I don't believe That there are too many guys that understand that better than me.
I can't pass up a good doable project no mater how many I have in front of the new one. I'll be watchin closer now lol

Don

 

[Hounddog]

I've got a question for the crowd... The other day I decided that I wanted to have a trolley w/chain hoist in the new addition I built recently.... if your familiar with my shop pics...it's the enclosed portion of the front of my barn. I decided to call the firm that did my plans, their a small outfit, in a small town. I ask them if they can tell me what the beam (that they specified for me to use) can carry as far as additional weight within a particular span of the beam, I explain the method of attach and all other relevant particulars. While they act as if it's no problem...they never follow-up with me w/details. I have no idea why. Considering $$, Should this info cost additional money? It has not been mentioned. They appear to be willing to assist but their follow-thru stinks. TO me, I always thought the beam was verkilled. Clear span of 28ft it's a 3 x ply LVL / Microlam that is approx. 6" thick and 16" tall. This beam supports a 20ft deep X 28ft long low pitch metal roof w/ conventional framing. Overkill??? thoughts??

 

[Hounddog]

Hopefully we will get the ceiling finished this weekend. Time lapse video...actually got half of the room done today. Kinda overheated myself today so it slowed me down. Using a rented drywall lift is the way to go...fo sho!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8uuumhssxqtplc5/IMG_2992.3gp?dl=0

 

[Hounddog]

So what I thought was gonna be a 9hr project is at 24hrs and counting. Probably 4hrs of wrap-up tomorrow. Thank God for the daughter I have! She's a trooper and puts up with her grumpy old dad...

 

[Hounddog]

If you've followed the thread... I ended up dropping the Beam and Trolley lift that I was discussing earlier. In fact there was a GJ member (Matt_I) that went well out of his way to assist, but in the end... I decided the juice was not worth the squeeze. I do have 3 lift points prepositioned that I can use a chain hoist with...it'll be fine. And, when I'm not using the lift points I'm thinking of suspending a painting rack of sorts from.

 

[Hounddog]

Ceiling nearing completion...all the panels are up. Just a few "finesse" spots to call it done. Bought my lighting today at Lowes...Going LED 4ft ers for this addition despite T12's in the rest of the shop. Took 7 in total.

 

[Hounddog]

A question for the Board... I've planned to use some old barn tin on one of my walls.. maybe two. While the tin will show well, "unique patina" for me to install the sheets in a vertical orientation I'd need to block (between studs) where the edges will overlap...highly doubtful any would break on a stud. NOW,...if I installed sheets horizontally...I could just cut them to land on a stud. Would you think the horizontal application would look weird? I plan on adorning the wall with old signage and neon...so it will get broke up with that.

 

[Bob Heine]

I think it's up to you. Try a temporary horizontal install with screws in the studs to set the sheets on. If you like the look, go for it. If not, you could either do the blocking or cut the sheets lengthwise to fit your stud spacing.

Another option is to make a patchwork with irregular size pieces. For photos of that kind of stuff:

http://www.shutterstock.com/s/"corrugated+metal"/search.html

 

[Hounddog]

Another option is to make a patchwork with irregular size pieces. For photos of that kind of stuff:

http://www.shutterstock.com/s/"corrugated+metal"/search.html

That is a neat reference page Bob...never heard of shutterstock before. Thanks for weighing in.

 

[Hounddog]

Yesterday was a great day. Friend helped me pick up a load of salvaged 100 yr old + building salvage for the barn project. Some painted stuff (great look) and some big timbers with saw kerfs along the face (great look) Will also beusing some old school tin in the room. Hopefully enough to trim out my new room and build the old timey large interior garage door (12 x 9) w/ integrated personnel door. I found this salvaged material while out picking last weekend. A buddy of mine stepped up to help me for the day to retrieve it all.

Pulling nails and trimming some material today. Hopefully building with it soon!!

 

[J-man67]

Great dig. That will add some awesome character

 

[Hounddog]

Dang 98 degrees and a 111 degree index...what ever that means. I translate as "Hot as Hell". A full day of pulling old square nails out of old beams 2" thick. Brushed them down with a wire brush. Cut and fit as baseboards. Considering that there's 1/2in OSB setting on top of the base board and the old tin is another 3/4 inch in projecting I should end up with 3/4 reveal on the baseboard...that'll work. I elected to install OSB for the old tin to fasten too...should ensure it'll lay good a flat and tame tweaks and such. A chair rail will cap off the tin at around 42 inch mark. There will be OSB that will be painted up to the metal ceiling.

These details are a huge pain BUT I can't wait to see it all together.

 

[Hounddog]

So this is what I was going for when I started searching for and collecting 100 yr old recycled materials. The only remaining steps is to paint the OSB above the chair-rail and I may add a strip of material along the top of the wall.

My material prep consisted pulling the nails (All were square nails..cool), cutting to the dimensions I needed. Luckily, I had some thicker material for the base board (approx. 2in). Inside/outside trim and chair-rail is 1in thick.

The tin is off a log cabin in the woods...very, very old. a full 1/16in thick. Used a metal blade on my circ saw with a fence...WORKED AWESOME! perfect cuts.

 

[jb3]

I love the way that turned out!

 

[Hounddog]

Thanks JB3...there's more to come this weekend. If all goes as planned I should get the big wall done (28ft) A slow process for me but I've never been fast....I am a product of my father, it's not may fault.

With some luck maybe I'll get some paint up too.

 

[MoparTrucks]

Great thread and your barn looks super. I am glad you went vertical with the old barn tin, I have some horizontal tin on my old dairy barn that looks terrible and its going to cost me some $$ to cover it up. I also think you were smart to back it with OSB and you have given me some ideas for my own shop. I have a stack of old barn tin from a chicken house that used to be on my farm and I think a wall in my pole barn shop may get that treatment.

 

[don long]

Hounddog
Your vertical tin was a good decision and with the OSB as a backer you won't have any trouble hanging your neon and porcelain any where you choose.

 

[930dreamer]

Good looking addition, I really like the wrap around porch.

 

[Hounddog]

Mopor...I thought of just doing blocking where the joint lies but it's easier and better just going the osb route...my opinion
Don Long....Hey Don....Yep Vertical is where it's at....And I got some new porcelain just a waiting...Hey I would display your rejects at my place!!
930....Thanks, hard not to love a porch. I love to work out there too!!

So today I got more osb up and started trimming up the long wall. Sure am am slow as a trim carpenter....

Gosh dog I do love working with these old materials. Tomorrow...MORE TRIM!!

 

[Hounddog]

Got the windows trimmed out and metal along the 28ft wall.

I believe I'll hold off installing the chair rail till I get the paint on the wall...one less thing to have to tape out. There will also be a piece of trim at the top of the wall that'll run between the vertical inside or outside.
Waddya think??

 

[Homebody]

Love the shop!
I have the OSB on my interior walls also but decided to cover it up with the woodgrain paneling when I did the tin wainscoting. Looks good either way though and never a problem hanging stuff!

 

[Hounddog]

Love the shop!
I have the OSB on my interior walls also but decided to cover it up with the woodgrain paneling when I did the tin wainscoting. Looks good either way though and never a problem hanging stuff!

Hey brother thanks for dropping by....I believe we have the same designer.

My progress this weekend:
- Wrapped up some OSB....still not done.
- Installed more base molding.
- Relocated and reconditioned and readied the future location of my 6000btu AC. It's rated to cool rooms up to 216 square feet....this space is fully insulated and just shy of 500 sq ft. SOOOOoooooooo, maybe I can get a ceiling mount fan to double up the performance of pushing the cool around. THOUGHTS?????

- Installed some 1/2 in pine strips to cover the OSB panel joints.....LOOKS better than just filling with caulk.
- Primered and even got final paint on a few walls. On sale, $5 rebate per gal, Olympic at Lowes!!! Color = Almond Paste

- Cut the metal for another wall....standing by to install it during this week.

.

 

[Bob Heine]

Relocated and reconditioned and readied the future location of my 6000btu AC. It's rated to cool rooms up to 216 square feet....this space is fully insulated and just shy of 500 sq ft. SOOOOoooooooo, maybe I can get a ceiling mount fan to double up the performance of pushing the cool around. THOUGHTS?????

Hounddog, that might be a little under-sized for your square footage but it will definitely improve the working conditions in your garage. Even if it doesn't cool to meat-locker temperatures, it'll take the humidity down a bunch. Low humidity makes even 80-degrees feel cool.

A ceiling fan helps quite a bit and if you can, turn the A/C unit on first thing in the morning, have a couple of cups of coffee, check the GJ and then go to work out there.

My garage is about 700 sf and my 12,000 btu unit keeps it at 78-degrees F all day, with one ceiling fan circulating the air. If I wait until the garage warms up to 87-degrees, it takes more than an hour to cool it down to 80.

 

[Hounddog]

Hey Bob..thanks for that reference. I'm tracking... I'll try to get a ceiling fan that was used in industrial settings.. The type that hangs off the ceiling...but is directional.

We'll see. I can't wait.

 

[Hounddog]

Did a little project this evening... Believe I'll do up a thread on it for a wider socialization. An offering from SWAG Off-road.

Porta-band build thread:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5071375#post5071375

 

[Grumblebum]

I've always been partial to the barn style, maybe one day if I make it out of suburbia and get some acres...

That corrugated iron and heavy reclaimed timber looks the business, coming together nicely.

Cheers Grumblebum.

 

[Hounddog]

I've always been partial to the barn style, maybe one day if I make it out of suburbia and get some acres...

That corrugated iron and heavy reclaimed timber looks the business, coming together nicely.

Cheers Grumblebum.

Thanks Grumblebum... Not sure about Australia but old materials get a premium around me...everyone is trying to use it. Luckily I got this material cheap. I've got another 1500 sq ft of shop that has not been finished out....I may not get that lucky with materials twice!!! Thanks for the visit!!

 

[Hounddog]

Progress today...Expanded the electrical service so to speak. Got a little more flex space with the addition of the 100+ amp panel.

Just gotta finish up my wall switches and recps. in the new addition and I'm good to go.

And a 1960's era parking meter for the new room.

 

[Hounddog]

So a good day of progress... Ready for final paint on a back wall. One wall remaining!!! Yaaaayyyy.

Couldn't help myself today....had to put a "little icing" on top. lol

A 50's era Wolf's Head flange...straight and near perfect finish...lucky to have found it!

tomorrow, more of the same.

 

[Hounddog]

Dang, tough crowd.
- Got the outlets wired today
- remaining OSB up
- Primer is on the wall

Remaining:
- Cut some more metal for final wall
- Some trim is needed
- Top color on two walls
- Wire up the switches
- Garage door opener
- Install A/C
- Make "Old Timey Garage Door w/integrated personnel door"
- Create track for garage door
- Hang more signs.

There is more but I'm getting depressed..... GREAT Weekend!!!!

 

[Hounddog]

My newest additions... Thanks to the Evansville Indiana "Frog Follies" Swap Meet this weekend. My annual pilgrimage!!! Love that show/swap.

The Coke machine actually came from my fathers collection and worked up till he turned it off 3 years ago. So today I've used a degreaser to clean out the mechanicals. It had to lay down in the truck bed for the past three days so I'll keep it upright for the next few days before I turn it on to check it out.

 

[Rogue1987]

That soda machine and clock are awesome!

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[Hounddog]

That soda machine and clock are awesome!

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Thanks Rogue, I'm stoked to get them both going. I find it odd that the cheapest bottle to load up in the machine is beer bottles and not bottled soda. I'll probably load 2 racks with the little cokes, then a row of orange crush, another soda wild card and the rest will be miller lite and the usual suspects.

 

[KCarGuy]

The Original Shape and Style of your Garage was Awesome...
But Now it Looks even Better,
Lots of Planning and design work really is paying off.
Not to mention all the hard work.
Looks like something that you can enjoy for a Long, Long Time.
Thanks for sharing...

 

[Hounddog]

KCarGuy---Thanks for the comment. This building seems to be continually evolving...however this is the last hurrah as far as from me. In retrospect, as I get older, I now believe a metal building is the way to go...but that's hindsight!

 

[Hounddog]

Big day at Hounddogs Hangout....finally got a chip/dust extractor in the woodshop....a small system but I've been without for so long that I'm still excited.

 

[Hounddog]

You gotta love a 4 day weekend... Last big push finishing up tomorrow. This weekend I had a little side project to knock out 'for the boss' (aka: Wifey) it's her birthday. Used some of my 100yr old + salvage timbers I'm using in the shop now for trim.

I believe the metal work and painting is nearing a finish...maybe some small touch-ups here and there.

Cased out the former garage door opening with old wood...turned out fine but had to do a little foe patina painting...my stock is thinning out fast...have to get creative to keep it all looking old. I'll be dammed if a sign didn't jump right up on that wall I just finished today...crazy I know.
Was happy to add this old hand painted NO SMOKING In Garage sign....As a BONUS...Look at what was on the back side.

the back side

It's a AAA Drivers Ed Class Sign...anyone care to take a stab at the est. date?? I'm thinking there close to what I remember on the school car in the 70's & 80's. Being that there's two interesting sides... I've got wall mounted sign bracket that I believe would make this look good.

 

[Hounddog]

To keep from boring ya'll with the details...paint and trim out is complete. I moved to clean the shop up and maybe a goof off project. I scored a sweet Fisk Tire Pam Clock. I needed to install an outlet above the previous garage door opening. Luckily had this old school receptacle.

Here's the clock

Sorry I cant show you any completed pic's... I had an issue or two with the clock I have to sort out first.

 

[gnpenning]

Looking good. I love the old character items.

that dust collector will really help. When you get bored add a garbage can style cyclone to it. Makes dumping sooo much easier.