New guy with cluttered grage and new compressor 56kdeath!!

[lilpeenoiracer]

i need some help with my garage.... 1/2 the garage is devoted to my dads car, 1/4 is devoted to junk that my mom wont throw away adn teh other 1/4 is for me and my tools and junk. well i also have the side of my hosue which i can fit 3 cars with ease. i just recieved my IR ss3l3 compressor took about a month to delever from norhtern tools. well now i need to find a place to put it and how to run the airlines through out my garage and the side of my house.

i would like to have at least 2 drop lines in my garage one on each side of the garage, adn perferedly 3 drop lines on the side of my house, but i can do with 2.

i am planning on using coper pipes sicne it is the cheapest and easiest to use other than the plastic stuff. i dont know what size i would need or what exactly i would need. ive been hovering over this forum for the past week and look at set ups that felow members have, and i must say i am very impressed. well here is the space i have to work with.

the compressor

where i want to put the compressor (the corner by the garage door)

the rest of my garage

the side of my house where i work on cars

well thats what i have to work with, ill be drawing up a birds eye veiw of how i want to run the air lines or at least were i would like to be able to plug in an air tool at. i would like my set up to be expandable for the future. this is my parents house but they will let me do pratically anything i want. my dad is probablly as excited about this compressor as i am.
oh yea i would like to be able to use as much tools as possible (not all at once) but i have an uncle who is willing to ship a tire machine to me from new jeresy so i think that would be one of the lrger tools i will be using on my set up and it will go to as small as an angle die grinder. i would also like to use a sand blaster cabinet in the future. i know that its only a 3 hp mtor. its only me who is working on cars here, sometimes a few friends come here and work on cars too, so mutliple tools runing at once is goign to be kept to a very minimum since i only have 2 hands. :-D k well thanks alot.

 

[wilbilt]

I would set the compressor as close to the electric service panel as possible.
Judging by the photos, I would say it could go where your Craftsman toolboxes are currently located.

Copper wire is high $$ these days. You don't want to buy more wire than you have to.

This would shorten the runs for your air lines as well.

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

well my dads and electrician so the coper wires will be no problem i dont want my dad to have to manuever around the compressor its kinda hard to pull the vette out when theres a car parked in the drive way with the tool box tehre as it is. i would liek to but the compressor would stick out too far

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

well ive changed my mind and decided to put the compressor in this corner

i will clear out the corner and cut down the cabinet from the last door on right. the problem with that is going to be dampening the noise from teh compressor. the other side of that wall is parents headboard for their bed. so my dad decided to just place some good sound dampening around teh compressor. so we will be making a wall around the compressor. as for proper ventalation i will cut a hole in the wall and place a good size industrial fan for a fresh air from outside to blow to the compressor and possible another exhaust fan so that the air can flow through rather than just getting trapped.

what type of sound dampening material should i use for the wall so that the noise levels wont be to loud and hopefully i would be able to be able to run teh compressor at night still(which i doubt it will be quiet enough).
it also says to not use lead solder for copper lines, what type of solder should i look for.
as far as usign a flex line to connect the hard lines to teh compressor what should i look for ar in that and were would i be able to buy this.

thanks alot i spend more time on this forum now than my supra forums lol.

 

[TRMN8TR]

WOW! you guys have ALOT of stuff. I would completely empty out that garage and start new. As you put stuff back decide weather you want to keep it or pitch it. If you haven't used it or needed it in the last year chances are you won't use it or need it in the next years to come either......throw it out.
I would be freaked out with all that stuff around my cars.
Mount that compressor up high on a shelf. Get creative.

 

[Down Under Bloke]

I made a compressor box out of 32mm(1.25 inch to you) MDF and old dot matrix printer cabinets. I used the fans, insulation and clear lid from the printer cabinets. I moved states and the units got broken up (dam). Don’t know about the fire risk this unit had, I assumed the insulation in the printer cabinets was fire retarded.

I now have my compressor downstairs in a bathroom remote from the house. If I forget to turn it off at night it wakes us up (this uses valuable credit points). My advice: yes make a cabinet but also install a timer so the unit stay off at night, just remember, if you have any leak down it will start the moment the power comes on; your electrician (Dad) should be able to sort all this.

Another note worthy point if you live in an area of high humidity you may not want the compressor to draw air from outside.

PS: Fire the unit up without the cabinet, when your Mom flips, tell her it would be quieter if it was in a cabinet, but you don’t have enough room for one.

 

[chet]

I agree with the cleaning part. If you do it your parents will be thankful.

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

yea i tried cleaning it lots of times hte only reason why the vette is able to get inside the garage was cause i cleaned the **** out of it (took me 2 days) so i can put my supra in there, then when my dad got his car it kicked me out. lol my mom has a thing about keeping things that we will eventually need in the near future(5+years possibly). the attic of the garage is full of **** as well....

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

just a little somehting i thoght of last ngiht late night, its been a while since ive used auto cadd so took me a while to get used to it again. i know nothing is too scale im going to take measure ments and try to draw it as close as possible and hopefully be able to estimate how much i will be spending on this, price of copper pipes are expensive.

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

i think im going ot be starting with something like that for now then build on to it later in the future.
planning on using 3/4 for the main line, adn 1/2 for the drop legs.
what should i be looking for in the flex line, my ss3l3 has a 1/2npt out on the compressor, also im planning on using the harbor freight AIR FILTER/REGULATOR UNIT , or 1/2'' AIR FILTER, REGULATOR, LUBRICATOR UNIT will mainly be using power tools, maybe paing once or twice, so i dont think iw ould need that great of a filter.

 

[TNToy]

Personally, I'd sell parts, folding lawn chairs, pets, and blood until I had enough money to put a storage building on the side of the house.

Mommy's **** goes in storage building, cars & tools go in the garage.

Selling that 'Vette for a down-payment on a nice 3-car in the backyrd works too

 

[Inetmonkey]

Personally, I'd sell parts, folding lawn chairs, pets, and blood until I had enough money to put a storage building on the side of the house.

Mommy's **** goes in storage building, cars & tools go in the garage.

Selling that 'Vette for a down-payment on a nice 3-car in the backyrd works too

Ouch! I dunno if I'd be willing to lose a Corvette for storage, but I'd definitely relocate the household junk. Storage sheds are cheap and a lot better to keep some of the less-regularly used items out from underfoot.

 

[ranger_dood]

Fan of the supras, are we? My bro has an MKIII turbo...

 

[wilbilt]

i know nothing is too scale im going to take measure ments and try to draw it as close as possible and hopefully be able to estimate how much i will be spending on this, price of copper pipes are expensive.

OK, so the copper wiring is no problem because Dad's an electrician, but copper pipe is expensive?

Don't you have any relatives that are plumbers?

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

wish i can throw **** away ive filled up truck loads already and still thats how teh garage is. my whole life its been like that, so my sisters my dad and i already accepted that there was no way to clear out the garage like how we would like, so we just have to live with it, already have a storage inthe back its full already....

is there a away to reinforce the attick of the garage so we can store heavier things up theire and not have to worry about a cave in?

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

Fan of the supras, are we? My bro has an MKIII turbo...

first car was a mk3 na and that was 3 supras ago so i think i am a fan lol if i was offered a new car from my parents i would turn it down for a supra. the red mk3 is my friends which ill be doing a na-t conversion starting this weekend.

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

OK, so the copper wiring is no problem because Dad's an electrician, but copper pipe is expensive?

Don't you have any relatives that are plumbers?

i dont know any plumbers....my dad usualy does all the home improvement/repairs himself.....

 

[ranger_dood]

first car was a mk3 na and that was 3 supras ago so i think i am a fan lol if i was offered a new car from my parents i would turn it down for a supra. the red mk3 is my friends which ill be doing a na-t conversion starting this weekend.

My bro's MKIII is an original turbo, but it originally had an automatic, which is simply unacceptable. We lucked out and found a good manual ****** from an MKIII at a junkyard for around $250. The car is _much_ snappier now

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

My bro's MKIII is an original turbo, but it originally had an automatic, which is simply unacceptable. We lucked out and found a good manual ****** from an MKIII at a junkyard for around $250. The car is _much_ snappier now

does he still has the 7m? or he go 1j?

 

[SILVERPLATE]

Seriously I would not park a new Corvette in a garage like that. Something is bound to fall on it. As for the rest of it, if you lived in my development they would be assessing you big bucks daily for the appearance.

 

[ranger_dood]

does he still has the 7m? or he go 1j?

it's the 7m

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

luckly tehres no assiciation in my neighborhood, not only me and my dad but my nieghbors dont like the idea of an association.... well i was able to clean out the garage as much as possible again, theres more room in the garage around the vette but thats cause i temporarely move the tool box and shelf to the other side, but wouldnt matter now cause the vette is staying outside since we are installing the compressor.

right now the compressor is mounted to teh floor, but will be removing it again to put sometype of rubber under the feet of the compressor to hopefully dampen the vibrations through teh concrete. its all wired up right now ran the compressor momentarely to see how loud it was around the house and outside of the house. surprisingly its quieter than i thought, we broke the intake plastice piece so i wasnt able use the intake filter. willl be going to my local IR dealer to see if i can get a replace ment in teh morning, hopefully that will dampen it up alot. the copper pipes right now im going to run 2 legs, on outside and one insde. im not sure how good it would be to just have the drop legs adn a dran valve at the bottom of the drop legs, instead of having a drain leg after the drop legs. i see the drain left as a waste of copper pipeing for right now. maybe later in the future i will add a drain leg but not right now. i want my compressor usable already.

oh yea i was able to clear about 1/2 of my moms junk in the garage, but i had tools stacked up in the corner where the compressor is now so i had to put that in the middle of the garage. ill post more pics up soon, its not like my garage is as interesting as most of the guys on here... well thanks for the advice guys, let me know wat you guys think.

 

[rajun asian]

My GF would hate to have you as a neighbor with all of those cars and parts! I, on the other hand would welcome you warmly.

 

[wilbilt]

Congrats on the progress....not only in cleaning up the space, but in getting the compressor going.

Where I live, noise isn't an issue. Neither are piles of cars and parts. There are junkpiles around here dating from the 1920s, I'd guess.

My place included....

 

[Bisqwik]

right now the compressor is mounted to teh floor, but will be removing it again to put sometype of rubber under the feet of the compressor to hopefully dampen the vibrations through teh concrete.

You can bolt the compressor to 2x4' the bolt the 2x4 to the floor that will help alot. Or if you studs are long just cut the 2x4's and put the compressor on top.
John

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

a few updates

1/2x12" flex hose

the stock intake cracked at the ****** so went ot replace it and got this all metal intake

i cut up radiator hoses and drilled ahole through them to see what would happen. kinda helped..

stock drain valve removed and place a 90 degree with a ball valve for easier draining

airline plan, 2 drop legs, one in teh garage and one outside of the garage, will add more if needed in the future.

i bough 3 10ft lengths of 1/2 copper for now, the guys at my local ir dealer said htat 1/2 is enough for my compressor, os i went along iwth the 1/2 since its alot cheaper. also got a bunch of elbos Ts and other things that i will need all im missing now is the check valves and the filters/regulators.

should i have a main line pressure regulator? or jus thave full pressure going to each line then regulate it there?

 

[Kinger]

Do you have a Grainger (contractor supply) store near you? To isolate the compressor you are on the right path with the radiator hose.

Look for what is commonly called waffle pad. You will need to figure out what the psi is on the feet of your compressor, but that is pretty easy.

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

Do you have a Grainger (contractor supply) store near you? To isolate the compressor you are on the right path with the radiator hose.

Look for what is commonly called waffle pad. You will need to figure out what the psi is on the feet of your compressor, but that is pretty easy.

can you explain what you mean by the psi on teh feet of the compresor?

 

[Kinger]

can you explain what you mean by the psi on teh feet of the compresor?

Take the weight of the compressor (should be in the manual) and divide it by the number of feet on the compressor (looks like four in the picture). Next measure the size of one of the feet.

Here is an example:
Compressor weight - 500 lbs
Feet size (each) - 4 inches by 2 inches

500/4 = 125 lbs.
4*2 = 8 square inches
125/8 = 15.625 psi (pounds per square inch)

The link that I provide before was for material that could withstand 50 psi, which would be more than enough.

Hope that helps.

Edit: If you go this route, don't bolt it down too tight. You will take away and isolation provided by the pad.

 

[Greg G]

Lil Peen... do we know each other? Are you on CelicaSupra.com?

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

Take the weight of the compressor (should be in the manual) and divide it by the number of feet on the compressor (looks like four in the picture). Next measure the size of one of the feet.

Here is an example:
Compressor weight - 500 lbs
Feet size (each) - 4 inches by 2 inches

500/4 = 125 lbs.
4*2 = 8 square inches
125/8 = 15.625 psi (pounds per square inch)

The link that I provide before was for material that could withstand 50 psi, which would be more than enough.

Hope that helps.

Edit: If you go this route, don't bolt it down too tight. You will take away and isolation provided by the pad.

thank you sir ill calculate these in the morning and go from there, also is there any other places online ill be able to get these since i wont be able to order str8 from them?

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

Lil Peen... do we know each other? Are you on CelicaSupra.com?

yea i am same user name, as this one, and same it is one supra forums, socalsupras, supra mania, and what ever else supra forums i have join in the past 2-3 years. nice to know that there are other mk2 guys on this forum. nice mk2s looks well kept.

 

[Kinger]

thank you sir ill calculate these in the morning and go from there, also is there any other places online ill be able to get these since i wont be able to order str8 from them?

This was the only place I found online http://secure.data-comm.com/RB/Detail.bok?no=40947

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

well i started the hard lines, i finished the main line and just have to finished the drop legs, well i pressure tested teh system last night when i was done, capped off the leg out side for now and put a ball valve on the leg inside and this is what i got.

all the Soldered joints are good but heres the threaded joints

except for this one

i used tefflon tape. on all the threads is theres omethingelse i should use?

 

[Down Under Bloke]

Hmm Bubbles bad

Only thing I can suggest is to pull them apart and try one more time, with more Teflon tape. Failing that check each connection in detail for what the problem may be, its a bit trail and error for this problem I suspect.

 

[ranger_dood]

are you using the same type of threads on the joining connections?

Teflon tape always worked with my air line stuff...

 

[PAToyota]

Hmm... Looks like a little more flux is needed on the soldered joints. Surprised that the tape isn't working better than that. How many wraps of tape are you using?

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

well i went back to home depot today and picked up some great white thread selant seams to have done its job, no leaks at all, it was just a little messy but got it all cleaned up, just about done, picked up 2 filters/ regulators from habor frieght today, got one drop leg all done ready to go was actually using it today for a cut off wheel, while the other drop leg as capped off. well just have to run to home depot tomaorow and pick up a couple more things to finish up the other drop leg. ill post more pictures when finished.
its pretty fun messign with copper once you get the hang of it. as you can see i used the ez sweat and it made it really simple i didnt really hvae to use to much solder but my dad kept telling me to add more add more to make sure it seals... i also over heated alot of them too, i kinda got the hang of it just when we were about done. going to cut up the copper one more time to add more shut off valves. going to be getting the solder ball valves since im not having to much luck with teh threaded joints.

also going to get some dry wal tomarow and going to dry wall the wall the copper lines are one, not sure if i wana hide teh copper in a way or slip the dry wall behind it. we have alot of electrical conduites on that wall that i may hide along wih the copper, might just have a little access panel for servicing the filters since i mounted the filter between the 2x4 studs.

 

[Down Under Bloke]

Sound good, you have to show us what it looks like when it's all done.

PS: Hows it going with all ya mom's stuff?

 

[lilpeenoiracer]

Sound good, you have to show us what it looks like when it's all done.

PS: Hows it going with all ya mom's stuff?

as of right now its all still there, but within the next few weeks my dad and i are going to be sorting **** out and possibly throwing **** away with my mom knowing lol

will post pics as soon as theyr done.