cbacres
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I see what you did there Mac!
There ain’t enough Aleave or Tylenol in existence to counteract Shorty on the scene!
Above 1200 Sq/FT New home, next chapter ....
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
There ain’t enough Aleave or Tylenol in existence to counteract Shorty on the scene!
shortykorte
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I’ve offered several times but you know how old mules can be.
Glad John didn’t call, sounds dangerous and I’m scare of heavy objects.
Glad John didn’t call, sounds dangerous and I’m scare of heavy objects.
Jayman17
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Sorry to hear about your back injury, I hope you heal up quick and get back out in that
great shop of yours.
great shop of yours.
PugetDude
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May I recommend:
Bob Heine
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John, a week after I turn 78 in September, we're attending a 90th birthday for a neighbor's father. My body is deteriorating at about the same rate as my mind so I often forget to ask for help but an unnamed busybody snitches to family and friends.
RivennHewn
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Back pain *****. I’ve been hurt’n all week.
Hope you’re up and running soon!
Hope you’re up and running soon!
shortykorte
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I know a good massage parlor on Mahan that will make you …I mean your back feel better. 
drxlcarfreak
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Wow I just found this thread and finally caught up! The issues that you’ve run into on your garage make the issues I’ve had trying to gut/renovate our new house and get a garage built seem trivial! Not that I’d wish it on anyone but I’m kind of glad I’m not alone in suffering on the Covid escalation budget bloat, and firing incompentent people to do the work myself correctly after paying them to ****** it up. I’ve already exceeded my budget to have my entire garage built, wired, plumbed, insulated, lift installed and some leftover for a nice welder and the steel structure just got installed on the concrete pad last week (6 months late). I thought I was just terrible at budgeting, but that isn’t seeming to be the issue…
I have a pretty similar structure as yours, except it’s not commercial grade, I opted for 30x50 to keep the price down jumping to a commercial structure. I still have the double 2.5” tube on the sides but the front and back are just a regular 2.5” square tube. I love the insetting of the 2x4 wall to run the plywood sheathing on the same plane as the steel. I’m curious though, do you have any concerns about a cold bridge from the tubing since there is no insulation between the tube steel and your interior walls, or did they drill holes and fill the tube as well? Or maybe I’m overthinking it, which I tend to do sometimes…
I have a pretty similar structure as yours, except it’s not commercial grade, I opted for 30x50 to keep the price down jumping to a commercial structure. I still have the double 2.5” tube on the sides but the front and back are just a regular 2.5” square tube. I love the insetting of the 2x4 wall to run the plywood sheathing on the same plane as the steel. I’m curious though, do you have any concerns about a cold bridge from the tubing since there is no insulation between the tube steel and your interior walls, or did they drill holes and fill the tube as well? Or maybe I’m overthinking it, which I tend to do sometimes…
Sorry to hear about your issues. Thanks for checking out my thread,
I don't know where you're located, so not sure of your heating/cooling needs, but the 1-1/2" tall hat channel allows the spray foam to fill that void between the steel tube and siding, creating a thermal break. Still not optimal insulated, but it's not living space.
Hope you have better luck moving forward with your project.
drxlcarfreak
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I think your issues trump mine quite a bit! Wish I would have found this forum/your thread before I ordered my garage. I would have done things a bit differently, and maybe have braced myself for the headaches that seem to be normal these days. I am in south central PA. I think technically climate zone 4, so it gets pretty hot in the summer, and pretty darn cold in the winter too!
Ahh, the hat channel to make the siding go vertical! Yet another reason that I should have upgraded to that! Agreed, I am just trying to figure a cost/benefit of the insulation in regards to heating/cooling the space. It may not be worth the cost for me to spray foam if I have that large of a cold bridge every 5'. I wonder if drilling a hole to insulate inside the tube is a valid option to shrink that cold bridge a bit.
Thanks, you as well!
Decided I needed to generate some funds to continue finishing the shop and also start getting serious about improving my 1984 Ford E150 that's been sitting in the driveway for most of this year. If I can get the Ford to be more dependable and driveable I can sell my 2016 Ram Promaster. Talked with my mechanic last Thursday and told him I would need to sell my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit to generate funds. Next day I received two calls from people he told about the Jeep. One guy came to look on Sunday and after 3 hours of BS'ing and dickering he decided to buy it. I spent a couple of days washing, vacuuming, emptying the Jeep. He and his wife picked it up Tuesday afternoon. Took me a couple of days to realize it's gone for good ( I have trouble letting go of vehicles I enjoy driving ). I have an appointment with my mechanic for Monday evening to talk about options and ballpark costs. Leaning toward building the current 300/6 with Clifford Performance parts, maybe a Sniper EFI, a couple of oversized custom fuel tanks, rear A/C for transporting our dogs.
Boostingaz
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rmack898
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Drop the van off at zmotorsports for the winter and pick it up in the spring.
Don't think he's a Ford guy. 
Boostingaz
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Boostingaz
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The Clifford and really any headers don't fit the 300 that great, you will constantly have leaks and be tightening them. Find a newer 300 factory dual manifold set up. Offenhauser intake The factory dual exhaust manifolds will be found on newer EFI trucks.
The factory dual exhaust manifolds will be found on newer EFI trucks.Thanks for the info. I'll have to look into it more.The Clifford and really any headers don't fit the 300 that great, you will constantly have leaks and be tightening them. Find a newer 300 factory dual manifold set up. Offenhauser intake
The issue is fitting the add-ons into the van's doghouse cover.
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RivennHewn
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I approve of these developments.Decided I needed to generate some funds to continue finishing the shop and also start getting serious about improving my 1984 Ford E150 that's been sitting in the driveway for most of this year. If I can get the Ford to be more dependable and driveable I can sell my 2016 Ram Promaster. Talked with my mechanic last Thursday and told him I would need to sell my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Summit to generate funds. Next day I received two calls from people he told about the Jeep. One guy came to look on Sunday and after 3 hours of BS'ing and dickering he decided to buy it. I spent a couple of days washing, vacuuming, emptying the Jeep. He and his wife picked it up Tuesday afternoon. Took me a couple of days to realize it's gone for good ( I have trouble letting go of vehicles I enjoy driving ). I have an appointment with my mechanic for Monday evening to talk about options and ballpark costs. Leaning toward building the current 300/6 with Clifford Performance parts, maybe a Sniper EFI, a couple of oversized custom fuel tanks, rear A/C for transporting our dogs.
Boostingaz
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to look into it more.
The issue is fitting the add-ons into the van's doghouse cover.
The factory dual EFI manifolds "should" fit. They are pretty tight.
Not my pictures but here are examples of the factory EFI manifolds. They are super short so you can do some tight exhaust work.
This first picture even has the Offy intake paired with them.
Any idea what these came out of ?The factory dual EFI manifolds "should" fit. They are pretty tight.
Not my pictures but here are examples of the factory EFI manifolds. They are super short so you can do some tight exhaust work.
This first picture even has the Offy intake paired with them.
shortykorte
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Don’t forget you still have the Challenger and that’s nice to drive. Oh and there’s always the Nissan.
Boostingaz
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1987+ f150, E-vans, even some busses and big trucks. Pretty much any 300/6 after 1987 should have them.
The f550/650 all those really "big" trucks had a single HD manifold that is still nice as the outlet is larger and flow was better. So you could find an HD single manifold (1965-1974 big trucks maybe some busses) and it would still be an upgrade. I think these are harder to find than the EFI duals though.
You can spot the HD manifold pretty easy, it looks really similar to the stock manifold however the outlet points straight down vs bedding towards the rear.
Not my data found in the Ford forum I used to be on.
The stock log exhaust is a single 2" outlet.
That's 3.14 square inches of exit room.
The EFI manifolds are dual 1.75" outlets.
That's 4.81 square inches.
The HD manifold is a single 2.5" outlet.
That's 4.90 square inches.
Boostingaz
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Not sure you would have room in the doghouse but 500hp on this one.....
Before boost they got 270 on a fairly modest rebuild.
Before boost they got 270 on a fairly modest rebuild.
After two meetings with my mechanic and his right-hand guy, it looks like my plan for the Econoline is not going to happen. To build the 300/6 ( like PowerNation build), EFI, new radiator, fuel tanks, sending units, fuel pumps, fuel lines, brake lines, alternator, rear gears, etc, etc,, is going to be "At the very least $15k, probably $18k, or more." I can't afford to put that kind of money into this van. I don't have the skills to tackle it myself. So it's probably going to be sold, so much for that dream.
Michael B.
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Maybe you could have the work done, just not everything at once.
There's a lot of history behind this. In 1975 I purchased a brand new 1975 Ford Econoline shorty, first year of the new body style (third generation). I completely customized it (cragars and wide tires, sunroof, complete custom interior, a buddy did a mural on the side). Drove it everywhere, twice cross-country, once was over six weeks on the road. It was stolen in 1978. I bought another one in 1979. Had to sell that one to make a down payment on my first house. Over the years I picked up five or six third gen Fords, all with plans to upgrade and customize, never having the time or money, all eventually being sold to pay bills or buy property. In 2016 I was passing a Dodge dealership and spotted the short wheelbase Promaster, went in, negotiated for two hours, and walked out owning it thinking it would satisfy my 'van' itch. It's a nice vehicle, but doesn't have the 'cool' factor. A couple of years ago I picked up the '84 Ford. The body is in amazing shape. Had the entire A/C system replaced ( a must in FL ) tie rods and bushings, shocks, starter and a few other things so it was drivable. This time the inflated expenses of building the shop have put the van work on hold. I guess I'm just tired of waiting for "someday". I let the Jeep go thinking this was someday. That's why this was now or never.
shortykorte
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RivennHewn
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Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Might want to do some soul searching on the Shortykorte wrap
Unless, he becomes a sponsor.
Might want to do some soul searching on the Shortykorte wrap
Unless, he becomes a sponsor.
PugetDude
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Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
Might want to do some soul searching on the Shortykorte wrap
Unless, he becomes a sponsor.
The only wrap that Shorty could be a spokesmodel for would be Band Aids.
Some decent progress this weekend. Got some plywood up on the garage walls. Built a partitioned rack for all my straightedges and levels, mounted under my assembly table. 5/8" x 4' x 8' CDX top. Still need to add air and DC connections . Also started DC plumbing, almost fully connected to the table saw so far.
shortykorte
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Any updates? Weather was a little cooler today.
On the vehicle front if you don’t do the Eco, I’m sure the following could be done for a reasonable cost.
On the vehicle front if you don’t do the Eco, I’m sure the following could be done for a reasonable cost.
Michael B.
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Just no Shorty!
shortykorte
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But it's a Challenger and the look is popular here in Tallahassee.