Above 1200 Sq/FT New Mountain Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Small update:
We ran out of 10' forms. Supplier didn't provide all that he was supposed to. Contractor got the rest of the forms Friday and dropped them off. They will finish putting up forms tomorrow and pour on Tuesday. The contractor ordered 5 trucks but hopes we only need 4. The contractor and his crew have been awesome.
We ran out of 10' forms. Supplier didn't provide all that he was supposed to. Contractor got the rest of the forms Friday and dropped them off. They will finish putting up forms tomorrow and pour on Tuesday. The contractor ordered 5 trucks but hopes we only need 4. The contractor and his crew have been awesome.
readhead
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Being in the structural steel business I am confused why the engineer refused to work out the connections. Based on the foundation this doesn't look like a very complicated job. All of the connections could be worked out in a couple of hours. Sounds kind of fishy to me.
I suspect he's an idiot. He probably doesn't know anything about steel structural. That is just a wild guess on my part. He wouldn't even give us the loads on the connections. No idea why he didn't. It might be that the architect screwed up his portion of the design. I know that the space between the garage doors weren't wide enough for the sheer of the front of the building. In order to fix that the architect would have had to do a good amount of work to fix his drawings. I was already down his knickers about the length of time that it took him to do the drawings. The current engineer widened the space so he could get his minimum of 27". We actually went wider than that. The new engineer didn't have any problems. I actually wonder if he's an engineer. He has a license in Colorado and says he has done extensive work in the UK. I suspect that someone is stretching the truth somewhere. I might see if my current engineer has any ideas why he stopped half way through.
jsaw
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Do You think that You will have any issues with water coming down the hill at the back of the building?
That's a good question. The main entrance to the top floor is a six foot roll up garage door in the back. There is a cement apron for the entrance. To that apron will be road that is going to be cut at the top for that entrance, like an old bank barn. Above the road on the hill will be a ditch/berm to channel the water from the entrance. There will also be french drains all around the bottom of the garage and the back side of the garage.
Tman
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Should be OK with all of that drainage
jsaw
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I figured that You probably had it figured out.
jonathco
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Wow, cool project. Subscribed!
racer-john
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How thick are the walls?
The concrete walls are 8". The framed walls are going to be 2X6.
I finally sat down and figured out the total size of this thing. The total size of the bottom floor is 57' wide and 34' deep, including the carport on the one side and the storage area on the other. The size of the main center portion of the garage (1st floor) is 37' wide and 34' deep. The top floor is 27' wide and 34' deep. The carport on the left side, looking at it from the front, is 13' wide. I got some pics of the walls. They did the pour last week. Hopefully we will get a floor this week. The pour is scheduled for Friday depending on weather.
Carport side.
Storage side:
Carport side.
Storage side:
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70runner
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Yes, somewhat similar to mine in terms of hillside excavation, though yours is a larger structure. I did an RCA similar to yours on a previous property. You've had more than your share of hiccups, seems every project has them. Best of luck.
The steel contractor installed two columns on Thursday. The concrete folks poured the floor on Friday. The steel folks come back out on Wednesday to start installing the rest of the columns and beams. Theoretically the building contractor starts some time next week or the week after. He has ran into some real life kind of snags lately that he really can't avoid so it's a little up in the air right now.
I **** at updating this thread. Here are some pics I took today. Floor is done and columns are up. Columns will be cut to height and steel flanges will be installed on the columns tomorrow. Beams are going to be installed tomorrow and Friday.
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Motoman1100
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Going to be a great space to work, I know you're excited. Congrats!
Steel guy has a couple of hiccups. He is supposed to finish up tomorrow. It's taken 3 weeks to get the steel to this point so I will believe it when I see it. Materials are starting to get delivered tomorrow also. The main contractor for the job has some questions about some of the steel construction so he is having the county inspector come out to look at a couple of issues. Framers will also start framing tomorrow.
Finally getting to see some forward progress again.
Finally getting to see some forward progress again.
TheRoteEngineer
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Incredible place you have there! The garage / shed / barn will be a brilliant addition.
What is the process for insulation in the US? Is there code you have to adhere to? I am guessing that it gets pretty nippy in winter where you are based?
Also, I know what you mean about flat space, we are in a comparatively hilly part of the UK and live atop of the undulations. Our driveway is about 700m and is around 1:2 for most of it! In trying to improve the place we have spent a lot of time terracing and moving dirt around.
Keep the updates coming,
Kind regards,
TRE
What is the process for insulation in the US? Is there code you have to adhere to? I am guessing that it gets pretty nippy in winter where you are based?
Also, I know what you mean about flat space, we are in a comparatively hilly part of the UK and live atop of the undulations. Our driveway is about 700m and is around 1:2 for most of it! In trying to improve the place we have spent a lot of time terracing and moving dirt around.
Keep the updates coming,
Kind regards,
TRE
It does get pretty cold up here. Our elevation is 8048' (2453 meters). I have seen it as low as -35F. Thankfully that doesn't happen very often. Our driveway is about as long as yours is but probably not as steep. It is steep enough that one can't get up it without 4 wheel drive in the winter unless I plow it.
As far as the insulation goes, I was going to use blown in poly-urethane but I decided that it is a garage and a good portion of it is already insulated by earth. It's not worth the extra cost to go with sprayed in insulation. County code doesn't require any insulation for garages but I want to heat it so I am going to use R-21 fiberglass batt insulation.
I have seen some pictures of the mountains in the UK. The countryside looks absolutely beautiful.
VolksWomble
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the countryside and mountains are indeed beautiful but our highest mountain is only 4,400ft!
Just_Steve
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Wow I have garage envy. Looks awesome.
Another update. The steel fabrication guy said his work would take 3 to 4 days. It took him 4 weeks. He had to come back and correct errors and install things that he forgot or didn't realize were on the prints. He finally got his part done. There were still problems with straightness of the walls and and such but we wanted to move forward with the whole thing. It took my framer two days to get everything plumb and straight.
Here is what two frames did in five days. They installed all of the sill plates, got most of the bottom walls framed and most of the subfloor for the second story done.
Here is what two frames did in five days. They installed all of the sill plates, got most of the bottom walls framed and most of the subfloor for the second story done.
GlennSullivan
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It really ***** that the delays in steel design and install have caused you to be up against winter weather for the rest of your build.
Yeah. The original completion date was over a year ago. Not worried about the weather however. It won't slow us down too much.
GlennSullivan
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Opps, I forgot, weather doesn’t bother you Mountain Men, LOL.
Sorry about the Covid deal. I worked through the March - December 2020 time frame with trailers full of dead bodies with no vaccine and no issues.
Retired in Dec 2020 and got all the shots and boosters, ended up getting it last new years eve. Spent 10 days with 102-104 fever. Go figure…..
grant00
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Another Coloradan here. Looking forward seeing more. Awesome view you have up there!!
Any plans for finishing or coating the floors? I’m about a week or so behind you with framing about to start on our garage.
Any plans for finishing or coating the floors? I’m about a week or so behind you with framing about to start on our garage.
I took the vaccine when it first came out. I have firmly refused to take one since. I have had COVID twice, including this time. I have a lot of friends that got the vaccine and still got COVID. One has permanent nerve damage from the vaccine.
Actually I am a wimp when it comes to being cold. The wife and I are always bickering about the right time to build a fire in the stove. It's all about how one dresses when outside.
I haven't even thought about the floor. I will probably just go with oil base floor paint. I had an epoxy floor in my shop when I fixed helicopters and it still wore down after awhile. It's cheaper to paint a messed up floor than have it refinished with epoxy.
SilverJimmy
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My next shop I’m considering a densifier finish. I think that is what is done to the HomeDepot and Costco floors. They seem to be pretty clean all the time, no concrete dust, and not much staining. What the big guys do might be the right way to go?
red
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Second the opinion on the densifier, might want to consider concrete stain as well.
Another idea might be to use rock wool insulation instead of fiberglass insulation. Not sure if it's available in your area but heads and tails above fiberglass in it's advantages.
Another idea might be to use rock wool insulation instead of fiberglass insulation. Not sure if it's available in your area but heads and tails above fiberglass in it's advantages.
Another update. First floor walls are all framed. Most of the pre-cuts are done for the 2nd floor walls. They just have to nail them together and stand them up. They don't want to stand the walls up till we have trusses. We are in a holding pattern for trusses. It will be three weeks till delivery. Not a big deal. Ordering doors and windows tomorrow.
Tynee
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In for future updates.
Yet another update. I talked to the truss company and they said they will get on the truss package next week. I ordered the garage doors and the roll up doors. The garage doors will be here on Dec 9 and the roll up doors will be here on Dec 22. My source for windows fell through so we haven't ordered them yet.
rocco
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I went with the Ashford formula densifier in my shop after a very basic polish and it’s held up great over the last few years, same as Costco and HD use.
Got rid of the COVID. I feel so much better now.
Update:
I ordered the three garage doors and the two roll up doors. They won't be here until sometime around Christmas.
They installed the sheeting on the bottom floor. We got the apron for the back entrance on the second floor poured. The framers got the stairs built, framed the side walls, installed the trusses and are now sheeting the roof.
Update:
I ordered the three garage doors and the two roll up doors. They won't be here until sometime around Christmas.
They installed the sheeting on the bottom floor. We got the apron for the back entrance on the second floor poured. The framers got the stairs built, framed the side walls, installed the trusses and are now sheeting the roof.
Tynee
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What kind of flooring do you have planned for the top level?