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elevator joe

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check your local rental place they may have a rolling gantry with beam trolley and chain fall fairly reasonable. just a thought very nice build!!
 
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I put my CNC Mill up on it's stand using the same type of hoist. Mine was a 2 ton and my mill weighed 800lbs. Did you try to extend the beam out? I used lifting straps as well. It's a little un-nerving doing this by yourself. But it can be done.
You could rent a larger engine hoist if your's won't lift it.

Nice build.
 
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Unfortunately this is only a 1 ton hoist. If I extend it outward it quickly de-rates to less than 1000 lbs. Also, I think the base on the 2 ton is a bit wider and the lifting height is a few inches higher...just enough to make all the difference.

If I can't find something to rent, I'll just go & get a 2-ton hoist. I'll probably just give away my 1-ton hoist in that case...
 

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Sorry you don't live closer. I would lend you mine.

Off topic.
I saw you used Revit for your model. Is that what your planning to use to creat your models for CNC? I'm using FormZ and VisualMill. Just curious.

Best to you.
 
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Sorry you don't live closer. I would lend you mine.

Off topic.
I saw you used Revit for your model. Is that what your planning to use to creat your models for CNC? I'm using FormZ and VisualMill. Just curious.

Best to you.

No, Revit is very specific to building design (walls, doors, ceiling, etc.).

The Tormach comes with SprutCAM for creating the tool paths, and I have a trial copy of IronCAD for general modeling. But so far I like Solidworks better.


BTW on a different topic, I set up a Dropcam this week. I set it up in the garage window pointing out to the yard. I had some unexpected visitors during the week:

https://www.dropcam.com/c/c7365722950944bfb5e73380abb9e294.mp4
 

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I like either one of those lights. Sort of reminds me of Steampunk style.
 

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Re: Equipment Challenges

I had a frustrating day trying to get heavy object A onto base B. It's supposed to be doable with an engine hoist, but I've concluded you need to use one bigger than the one I have:

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Now I have to decide whether to buy a bigger engine hoist, or to buy a gantry crane...didn't really want to do that yet...

BTW, yes, the air lines are 3/4" Maxline. And yes, I'm in the Montrose area of town.

Shorten the chain you have between the load spreader and the jib, I reckon you've enough room there to do that.

Failing that, pick object A up, rest it on some blocks of wood, then get the crane onto some lumber, 2x4 or 4x4, lift object A again and either place the base underneath or, use sufficient wood to roll the crane over it.
 

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BTW on a different topic, I set up a Dropcam this week. I set it up in the garage window pointing out to the yard. I had some unexpected visitors during the week:

https://www.dropcam.com/c/c7365722950944bfb5e73380abb9e294.mp4

Nice. I have Golden and house finches that frequent the yard. I've debated about setting up some cams around the house.

Is this your first mill? The cost of tooling is what kills you. Look foward to some of your projects.
 

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I've got to ask, where did you get your windows? I've got a modern house (and garage down the road) that I am remodeling and those windows have just the right amount of frame.
 

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If it has not been brought up by thread end you might consider some form of base board for the times you have to use liquids to wash your floors there are white vinyl ones in 4 & 6' heights--maybe not fashionable but practicle
 
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I've got to ask, where did you get your windows? I've got a modern house (and garage down the road) that I am remodeling and those windows have just the right amount of frame.

The windows are just aluminum-clad 2'x4' double-pane windows. On the outside they put minimal trim around them (1"x2" I believe). Nothing particularly special.
 

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Great shop man. I second the baseboards. I got mine at 6" high. They were easy to put on. But I will tell you there is a tool that goes on the end of your caulk gun to spread the caulk out over the 6" in one pass. Imagine wide vacuum attachment, but for outflow. I could put caulk on in one pass, and put the base board up. I had my 30x40 done in an hour.
 

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Move the mill at ground level to exactly where you want it, lift it up partially with the engine hoist setting it on narrow cribbing as described by others. Then key difference is crib up the engine hoist, reattaching to the mill and you should have the few additional inches needed.
This is all contingent on the idea that the engine hoist can lift the 1200# which I believe you stated it does just not high enough. Good luck and be careful as someone mentioned that weight can be deadly.

Beautiful job on the building from planning through completion.
 

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If you don't want to use the cribbing... ...Get some 4X4s and 2X4s and build you a short A-Frame and use a come-a-long (cable hoist). That should let you lift it about 4-5 feet off the ground.

I used the A-Frame method to put my 80 gallon upright compressor in a 36"X36" closet. I just had to lift it about six times.
 

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Great design and finish work!! I like how laid out everything is. Can't wait to see more. I am always amazed at the talent of people on this site. Keep up the work. Very cool garage!!!
 

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Awesome build and with a cool look to boot. I look forward to the days when I have saved up enough money to do something like this. But for now, supporting a wife at home with kids, mortgage, etc and making due with an old garage and previously owned equipment will have to do (I actually love my old stuff though). Thanks for sharing this unique project with all of us and good luck with the remainder!
-cj
 
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Success!

Switching to a 2-ton engine hoist did the trick. I did have to cheat a bit & put it on the 1/2 ton setting:

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Now I just need to learn how to use it!

BTW, anyone want a 1-ton engine hoist (for free)? I only need one...

Also BTW, I think I'm going to put the vinyl trim around the baseboard that you(all) suggested. I like the wall protection it adds if I need to wash the floor..
 

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Re: Success!

Switching to a 2-ton engine hoist did the trick. I did have to cheat a bit & put it on the 1/2 ton setting:

Now I just need to learn how to use it!

Great job. I know how you felt when it landed safely. I also know how you feel about learning how to use it. Here's mine I got last year.

I've machined a few things but with learning all the new software and work it's been slow going.
 

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It's alive!

It took me a while to figure out an efficient cable management scheme, but I finally finished setting it up & pushed it up against the wall. it lines up *perfectly* with the edge of the back door. I even turned on the computer and jogged the motors a (tiny) bit...

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works4me

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I thought the same .. Big construction,will make shadow in your garage.

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They tore down the 40-year-old apartment complex behind me & are putting up a much denser one (5 stories, 350 units). The framing is almost done. It's to the north of me, so it won't cause a shadow. And most of it is blocked by the garage, and (eventually) the oak tree and (black!) bamboo.

FYI the back fence is already 12' tall! It would be difficult to go higher unless we went with concrete...
 

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They tore down the 40-year-old apartment complex behind me & are putting up a much denser one (5 stories, 350 units). The framing is almost done. It's to the north of me, so it won't cause a shadow. And most of it is blocked by the garage, and (eventually) the oak tree and (black!) bamboo.

FYI the back fence is already 12' tall! It would be difficult to go higher unless we went with concrete...

Thank you for the information...you will protect the wall from sanding disk (dirt)?
 
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works4me

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Nice set up.

Is there anything you would have done differently?

Cheers

I'm still setting it up; I'll know better in another 6 months-or-so. A couple of small errors thus far:

1. The plug next to the Air Compressor is about 2' too far away.
2. The 220v plugs were supposed to be at 2'. Somehow they ended up at 3'. ..a miscommunication on my part. I'll probably have to change at least a couple of them to avoid workbenches.
3. I probably should have put 1-2 more coats of Epoxy on the floor.

Some of the things I like so far:

1. The high windows let in lots of light but don't interfere with the work area.
2. The center storage area is very efficient.
3. The door placement has worked very well (as this shows).
4. The T8 HO light fixtures are great.
 

zebopman

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That is is really nice work space. I'm in Oak Forest, if you still have that engine hoist I'll be glad to relief you of it.

Great work!

Charles
 

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Incredibly nice, neat job. Your planning sure paid off! I have one question, and excuse me if I missed the rationale for it earlier in the thread: why did you need that intrusive column in the middle of everything? There is nothing like a clear span...........
 

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Awesome design. Awesome execution.

Looking forward to pics when you're fully moved in. It would be cool to see a real shot of the mini on the lift looking towards the "dirty" side, alongside the CAD one!
 
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New fence!

They finished replacing the rest of the fence today. It really makes a huge difference. I'm especially pleased with the way we stepped down from the tall back fence to the side fence. It ties everything together better.

Now we need to just finish up the yard and driveway....

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fyi you can see some of the permeable plastic panels still exposed on the driveway. The sod goes on top of this:

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Love your build, the style is cool.
I would hate the neighbor density increase though. I've got a new neighbor building up to our side fence line...A-0le
Maybe time to upgrade the guard dog from labs(love those too!) to a rotti, doberman or shepard. Would hate to see a low rent bozo F with all your toys.
 
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Material Storage Plan

I have several projects planned, so I need to start buying material. I've been thinking about approaches for metal storage - sheets, round/square stock, angle, etc. I've decided on creating two areas: one for long stock, one for short/small material.

My current rough idea for the long stock is to create a storage rack out of square tube about 1' deep x 6' tall x 8' long against the wall behind the tools. Material would be accessed from the end. The upper front (green box) would be covered by pegboard for hanging tools on the outside:

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The short/small stock is more challenging, due to the variability of sizes/shapes. I laid out my current (small) small stock just to visualize it:

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I'm thinking of putting pegboard on the end of the island racks with a combination of vertical and horizontal storage bins of various sizes.
This gives me some flexibility for reconfiguring over time:

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Input is encouraged....

BTW, before anyone comments on the crudeness of these renderings vs. my normal standards: I'm planning on rendering them in Solidworks once I get the design a bit better developed ;-)
 
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