New quality product from Snap-On

[oldtools]

At the rate they are going, we may see Snap-On branded Pittsburge tools at HF pretty soon. Then everybody going to say how awesome the tools are because they are Snap-On.

 

[rice rocket]

http://bluetoad.com/publication/?i=180386&pre=1

I knew about the light, the ratcheting tie down straps (also very awesome), and the Kershaw knives. Didn't know about the compressors, air hoses, and generators.

 

[1950mercury]

I don't think it's going to hurt anything. Most people who know tools know the difference between real snap on and this ****. And most of the people buying this **** are not buying real snap on.

 

[gungatim]

I don't think it's going to hurt anything. Most people who know tools know the difference between real snap on and this ****. And most of the people buying this **** are not buying real snap on.

I agree on the trinkets, but when they are branding air tools, I think that is over the line on what is a real tool. I've got a few snap-on belt buckles, knives, and even a gold ratchet set from the 70th anniversary in a chintzy walnut case. the difference is, the ratchet and socket set are actual production tools with the gold added, not an asian import...I could use it and turn it in for warranty if need be, wouldn't get the gold but would get a current production ratchet kit or socket replacement easy enough...try that with those air tools. doubt they would even be able to supply a seal kit...

 

[Sal Bandini]

Guy walks into Costco, sees inexpensive nailer. He thinks it's a good deal so he buys it. If he knows Snap On products, then he knows based on the price it's not on par with their other offerings. If not, he buys it based on price.

Some time goes by it either works ok for him or he has issues with it and maybe gets angry, maybe just throws it out. So if he gets angry, who does he complain to? His neighbors, who probably have garages full of HF tools, Ryobi cordless, if they even have that. If they have heard of Snap On they are never buying it, regardless of his input. Or is he complaining to guys that would buy Snap On, like pros or serious enthusiasts who will spend much of their discretionary income on high end tools? Do you think those guys will stop buying Snap On now? No, they already have their minds made up on what tools they will buy. They could care less what someone thinks of their Costco purchased nailer.

Snap On accessed a new market, collected their money, and their brand does not suffer.

 

[1foxracing]

I wonder how many guys will flag down a truck for a warranty replacement when these fail?

 

[rice rocket]

I wonder how many guys will flag down a truck for a warranty replacement when these fail?

Nobody.

 

[Notorious BRT]

I wonder how many guys will flag down a truck for a warranty replacement when these fail?

It would almost be worth buying and breaking just to see the look on the local SO guys face. He would go into orbit.

The thing about the merchandise deal being inked by a former employee of SO may be true as that is what our local SO dealer says happened.

 

[Murphy4570]

http://bluetoad.com/publication/?i=180386&pre=1

I knew about the light, the ratcheting tie down straps (also very awesome), and the Kershaw knives. Didn't know about the compressors, air hoses, and generators.

I didn't know it had proliferated to quite that extent.

Be aware that Snap-On does sell actual industrial size/quality air compressors. I don't know who makes them (IR, Quincy, etc), but they are quality from what I have heard.

They are ridiculously overpriced, but it is what it is.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=all&Group_ID=681243&store=snapon-store

 

[1foxracing]

Nobody.

I'm positive nobody will actually get one replaced from a truck but you know some dimwit is going to try.

 

[ADSR]

I'm positive nobody will actually get one replaced from a truck but you know some dimwit is going to try.

If someone wants to paypal the costs, i will buy one and gopro the episode on tool truck.

 

[lucky3]

Just like the "John Deere" lawnmowers at Home Depot that JD dealers won't work on.

Have to wonder what the decision making process was on that move.

Just to let u know the John Deere mowers at Lowe's and home depot are also the same ones the dealers sell. I have a friend that works at the dealer, I bought mine there but it was the same one as at Lowe's. Just don't want ppl misinformed.

 

[justanengineer]

From my understanding.. there is Snap On and then Snap On Industrial... and the industrial stuff is the junk? Correct me if I am wrong

Not trying to yell, just emphasizing keywords for clarity bc many folks have problems understanding product branding.

There are NO "SnapOn Industrial" PRODUCTS. SO Industrial is the NAME of the parent company, it used to be JH Williams Industrial until a couple years ago and had various SO-related names prior to that. The PRODUCT LINES are BRANDED "SnapOn," "Williams," "Blue Point," etc. Individuals and teams may work on one specific product line, but they all work for the parent company.

JMO but I dont see what the shock/surprise is over this. SO's been rebranding tools since the early days and many of us have them. I've got an imported "SO" engine hoist thats probably 20 years old among others. Another member I saw recently has one of the old round tube Lincoln Engineering hoists that was branded SO.

 

[jimindm]

Yeah, you... we... are exceptions to the norm.

I'm curious what their market looks like percentage-wise, between government/industrial sales, truck sales to pros, and online sales to those who aren't in the industry. I'd imagine when it comes to sales revenue dollars, the gov/industrial sector is a HUGE part, pros are most of the rest, and other makes up maybe 1%... average joe is small fry.

With this branding ****, they get to make the money up front, and I imagine it's hands-off as far as manufacturing and distribution (all they provide is a name) so if it costs them some small portion of a small portion (maybe, and some time in the future) it's not a big deal to them.

I would bet you would be surprised. The industrial side is made up of salesmen that work for SO. Most are salary plus commission.

I would put the revenue about the same. Truck dealers are selling at list, but they are franchised and you know that they are likely buying at 25%-35% off list.

The industrial side is a whole other game. the salesmen may only average one sale a week. That sale may be 20 sets of tools to a college.

Keep in mind that if SO gets these people to buy from the beginning of their career, they likely will buy their entire career. So they sell them their first set at rock bottom prices, then sell them $60k worth from then on.

My old dealer is now in industrial sales. He compared it like this. A dealer may write 100 quotes, wishing to to get 25% to buy, for a total of $25k. On the industrial side you give 10 quotes, hope that 2 buy, and have $60K in sales.

If you ever get the chance to look at a industrial catalog, you will be shocked at the product that is carried by SO. I would also guess that many would be surprised at some of the business and companies, that are owned under the snap on umbrella.

 

[T_Roze]

http://bluetoad.com/publication/?i=180386&pre=1

I knew about the light, the ratcheting tie down straps (also very awesome), and the Kershaw knives. Didn't know about the compressors, air hoses, and generators.

The "tube style" 4 AA led flashlight is also fantastic. When it's on sale for $15, it is a steal.

For 15 bucks, it made my dad believe everything that snap on is gold