New screw driver type

[whateg01]

I bought some screws at Lowe's for fixing some gutter that's hanging down. Had to buy new bits as I've never seen this type. Maybe proprietary?

 

[PlanB]

This seems like cheap ploy to sell me more screwdrivers....it may work

 

[liliysdad]

Well that looks like it will strip first time you look at it sideways.

 

[whateg01]

I wish I had found the screws in the length I wanted with a torx head. If I run across some I might take these back.

 

[dnschmidt]

When I think of screws I think of GRK.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

I’d return them.

They (FastenMaster) are phasing out Spiderdrive since about April of this year, and replacing it with Torx ttap. And Torx ttap can be driven with regular Torx bits. Wouldn‘t recommend going with Spiderdrive for a single application, that’s going to be a pain every time in future and basically already obsolete now anyway. Would be different for someone already using them, but starting with those now, no way.

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Kind regards,
Olli

 

[KnurledNut]

SpiderDrive is proprietary to FastenMaster. The bits you pictured don’t hold up well to impact use. The screws are harder than the bits and the splines will strip off. I have trashed dozens of those bits in short order. I recommend a drill for installing. And Milwaukee offers a much higher quality HeadLok bit. A #3 phillips works surprisingly well too. Keep that in mind if you ever need to remove them and don’t have the special bit.
Those screws don’t have much thread engagement. They hold fine unless they are torqued down too much and will strip out.

 

[Dagny]

Oh great 50 more tips. stop it already.

 

[DGersic]

Well that looks like it will strip first time you look at it sideways.

I ran several dozen 12” screws in with an impact using those bits. Worked fine, none of them cammed out.

Can’t say I like finding Yet Another GD Screw Head Design.

 

[whateg01]

When I think of screws I think of GRK.

Doesn't really matter what you think of if they don't have the thing you want, does it?

I’d return them.

They (FastenMaster) are phasing out Spiderdrive

Thanks for that info. I think I'm returning them.

It looks like Menards has a screw that will work and uses torx heads.

SpiderDrive is proprietary to FastenMaster. The bits you pictured don’t hold up well to impact use.

They do look fragile. I had planned to drill pilot holes so there wouldn't be much torque applied.

I ran several dozen 12” screws in with an impact using those bits. Worked fine, none of them cammed out.

Can’t say I like finding Yet Another GD Screw Head Design.

Wasn't really pleased to find that was the only screw on the shelves that looked like it would work the way I want them to.

 

[neophyte]

I’d return them.

They (FastenMaster) are phasing out Spiderdrive since about April of this year, and replacing it with Torx ttap. And Torx ttap can be driven with regular Torx bits. Wouldn‘t recommend going with Spiderdrive for a single application, that’s going to be a pain every time in future and basically already obsolete now anyway. Would be different for someone already using them, but starting with those now, no way.

HeadLOK and TORX® ttap®: Upgrade Your Fastening System | FastenMaster

Pair FastenMaster’s HeadLOK with TORX® ttap® for quicker, more precise installations, reducing cam-out, stripping, and labor costs. Discover the benefits…

www.fastenmaster.com

FastenMaster Introduces HeadLOK Structural Wood Screws with New TORX® ttap® Drive Technology - NADRA

FastenMaster, the leading manufacturer of innovative fastening solutions for decking and wood-to-wood construction, introduces its popular HeadLOK Structural Wood Screws now improved with the TORX® ttap® Drive System for enhanced installation performance.

www.nadra.org

Kind regards,
Olli

Buy a bunch of extra bits for the future.

 

[JSutter]

2332

 

[Beerhippie]

No, God, please no....

 

[neophyte]

These just look like a “Bristol Spline” design, but with more splines.

 

[M.Jay]

This reminds me of that cartoon by xkcd.

 

[Beerhippie]

 

[Steel_Rain]

I have one of these BS bits after helping a buddy with a deck / addition a few summers back (top of the bit holder, right side) because we used a ton of headlok hardware:



Witchcraft!