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Does it have serrated jaws like FD

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No, and Snap-On discontinued FD+ angle wrenches quite a few years ago. Its usually low torque and/or hydraulic fittings where it doesn't matter much. You really cant get much leverage on these wrenches.
 

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Nice to see they went with 30 and 60 degree heads. This is really cool to see and I'm glad Tekton is making something that the market was lacking.
 

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Does it have serrated jaws like FD

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I hope not, and it doesn't look like they do. I've been looking at a set of angle wrenches lately. These might be a good choice. I do hope they go bigger than 1" even if you have to buy singles.
 

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Having read that entire Tekton web page, it is very impressive. The compare many features directly to Snap On.

And 100% USA designed and manufactured... for $120!

How does anybody compete with that?
 
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I hope not, and it doesn't look like they do. I've been looking at a set of angle wrenches lately. These might be a good choice. I do hope they go bigger than 1" even if you have to buy singles.

Just looked and they currently have up to 1-1/4" but they are out of stock. They start shipping the 12 piece metric set on the 18th, most everything else is out of stock for right now.
 

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Damn those do look really good. Their marketing hype really craps on Martin and gives Snap-on a run for its money.

I got Snap-on in SAE but went with Sunex for metric. The Sunex are okay but don't look nearly as nice as the Tekton seems to. And they're 15/60 degrees. The one thing Sunex has going for them is their sets go from 6mm - 32mm with no skipped millimeters. Nice to be prepared for anything, even for some bolt sizes that probably don't even exist! (except that one time I needed one in 36mm)

Tekton only goes from 10mm - 24mm, and then a 27mm. Still, for looking that good AND being US made, I'm very tempted to do a brand swap. In a tool I rarely use no less.

I may have a tool problem.
 

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More evidence that Tekton deserves our support. They compete on price, quality and COO. Most manufacturers just pick two.
 

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The vid on the website directly comparing to snap on is a bit cheeky. Normally companies would cover the competitor's logo and refer to them indirectly. Is it legal for them to show this?

snapppp.jpg
 
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The vid on the website directly comparing to snap on is a bit cheeky. Normally companies would cover the competitor's logo and refer to them indirectly. Is it legal for them to show this?

The comparison to Snap-on is a little misleading. Usually there is no problem around the fitting, its at the other end where there is no room to turn. 30/60 angle wrenches are weird to use. Usually you use both a angle wrench and a long 15 combo and keep playing until the fitting is loose or tight.

The biggest selling point for Tekton is price. Snappy angles are stupid expensive. The 1 1/4 in the picture costs $100. Never thought about but there is probably ways of making cheaper good quality USA wrenches.
 

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They aren't forged, it says they're CNC machined.

Perhaps they are forged first?

http://www.wodin.com/compare-forging-machining.html

In any case I am just curious who the manufacturer is. I guess there isn't anything magical about producing tools compared to any other machining operation but in the past it seemed to be a specialty process that only a few companies got involved in.

Is Tekton using someone we know or did they talk a Harley Davidson handlebar supplier into making wrenches?
 
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This was nice to see on their site:

Our angle head wrenches use USA-made steel, were designed and engineered by Tekton at our Grand Rapids headquarters, and are made entirely in Michigan.:thumbup:
 

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No, and Snap-On discontinued FD+ angle wrenches quite a few years ago. Its usually low torque and/or hydraulic fittings where it doesn't matter much. You really cant get much leverage on these wrenches.
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Really awesome to see especially at that price, I hope they continue to offer more Made in USA tools.
 

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Perhaps they are forged first?

http://www.wodin.com/compare-forging-machining.html

In any case I am just curious who the manufacturer is. I guess there isn't anything magical about producing tools compared to any other machining operation but in the past it seemed to be a specialty process that only a few companies got involved in.

Is Tekton using someone we know or did they talk a Harley Davidson handlebar supplier into making wrenches?

At the bottom of Tekton's product page they show the wrenches being cut out of a plate of steel.
 

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Tekton is trying to compare this to Snap-On.

Tekton might be on a good start here though; they're like the Amazon of tool-shopping now.
Goodbye tool-trucks, hello internet = Savings :lol:
Oh, and did I mention, frustration free warranty and customer service? :beer:
 

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Question: can these be machined rather than forged because of the relatively low torque
needed to turn fasteners as people have pointed out?

I ask because though I don't see a need for me to have these maybe other USA made wrenched are possible/on the way from Tekton? Double box-end, etc.?
 

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Ordered the metric 12pc. I bet the inch sets will be coming right along. Most of the inch sizes needed for the set are available individually.

Seth
 

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I'm curious why these would be useful as opposed to a straight wrench? Not trying to be a downer but I just fail to see where you could use this that you couldn't use a straight wrench?? I've never had a wrench where I thought, wow, I wish I could turn my hand or body 45 degrees... I just turn the wrench (or my body). I've wished a lot of times that a wrench was shorter or thinner, so I can fit it in between two items, but maybe I just have not encountered the circumstance that made this a solution to a problem I have not had yet.... To me it just looks like a tool I'd never use and would take up real estate in the tool box.
 

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They look good at a great price. Even so I’m not giving up my Snap on angle wrenches any time soon, especially the FD+ wrenches.
 

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I'm curious why these would be useful as opposed to a straight wrench? Not trying to be a downer but I just fail to see where you could use this that you couldn't use a straight wrench?? I've never had a wrench where I thought, wow, I wish I could turn my hand or body 45 degrees... I just turn the wrench (or my body). I've wished a lot of times that a wrench was shorter or thinner, so I can fit it in between two items, but maybe I just have not encountered the circumstance that made this a solution to a problem I have not had yet.... To me it just looks like a tool I'd never use and would take up real estate in the tool box.

For me they have been indispensable when working on equipment with a lot of hydraulic hoses (lifts, tractors, dozers, loaders, skidders, etc). A good set of angle wrenches can turn a coupler 360 deg in about half the space than the single open on a combo wrench can. In tight places you can't get anything done without them.
 
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Question: can these be machined rather than forged because of the relatively low torque
needed to turn fasteners as people have pointed out?
Machined vs. forged doesn't really mean anything in terms of strength. In certain situations a forged part can be stronger than a part machined out the same alloy steel, but not always. There are so many different steel alloys, heat treating techniques, etc.. that I'm sure these machined wrenches are just as stronger if not stronger than a forged equivalent.

The biggest reason companies use forgings and castings is to save money over long production runs. With a forging, you start with a block of steel and hammer it into the final shape. It wouldn't surprise me if companies like Snap-On have their forging process down so well, that they don't even need to do any kind of finish machining to the jaws or box end on a wrench. It's fast and cheap, and most of the work probably happens in a single machine with multiple forging dies.

These Tekton wrenches on the other hand require a lot of handling. They start out with plate stock, which is more expensive than raw steel chunks you'd forge with. You need then to cut the blank out of the sheet, and no matter you're going to have gaps between the wrenches, meaning wasted material - further increasing material costs.

Then you need to set the wrenches up in a machine to be engraved, have the handle profile milled, and chamfer all the edges. It wouldn't surprise me if it requires two setups, meaning the operator has to flip the parts to do the other side.

To machine a tool like a wrench is a lot more labor intensive, and generally more expensive per unit. However, forging has extremely high setup costs, and you really need to move a certain volume of tools before it becomes practical.

For Tekton, starting out with plate stock of just about the right thickness likely allows them to keep machining and material costs under control.



The vid on the website directly comparing to snap on is a bit cheeky. Normally companies would cover the competitor's logo and refer to them indirectly. Is it legal for them to show this?

snapppp.jpg
The only time you see competitor's logos being covered and referred to indirectly is when the comparison is dishonest, because otherwise you could be sued for libel/defamation. If the comparison is truthful and honest, then there is no problem with showing a competing brand and calling them out by name.
 

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Then you need to set the wrenches up in a machine to be engraved, have the handle profile milled, and chamfer all the edges. It wouldn't surprise me if it requires two setups, meaning the operator has to flip the parts to do the other side.

To machine a tool like a wrench is a lot more labor intensive, and generally more expensive per unit. However, forging has extremely high setup costs, and you really need to move a certain volume of tools before it becomes practical.

I think your statements on higher labor cost are really overstated.

Forging was done because before the common availability of laser cutting CNC and high speed machining centers there was no other economical way.

Forging has always been a physical and dirty job. Then there was handling of the forging be loaded into multiple broaches and stampings. You also had the high cost of fuel for the furnaces(or electricity for inductive heaters) and the high maintenance cost for these hot process machines. Any material savings forging gives is going to be eaten by the fuel and equipment maintenance cost.

In a CNC machined part. The laser cut part is loaded into a self clamping nest on a tombstone. There may be 100+ nest on the tombstone and it's loaded while the other pallet/tombstone is in the machine running. There would be two sets of nest on the tombstone and when it unloads the loader takes out the wrenches that are now fully machined on both sides and takes all the wrenches machined on one flipping them and placing them in the second nest and loading laser cut blanks into the first nest. Hits the clamp button and the cycle ready button after it clamps up and them the pallet changer who'll take it into the machine after the pallet inside is finished.

The loading and unloading would be easily automated as well with robots if volume was high enough allowing the machinist to just change tools and do his part checks.

Because of the extreme high speed of modern CNC machines the gun industry has done this for decades now (starting with bar stock) and it saved them money compared to the old methods of forging first. It's allowed high quality guns at pretty low prices especially when inflation is taken into effect.

Small manufactures such as Henry rifles started doing it and now giants like remington have mostly converted over to this method.
 
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Having read that entire Tekton web page, it is very impressive. The compare many features directly to Snap On.

And 100% USA designed and manufactured... for $120!

How does anybody compete with that?


Snap-on set the standard for these wrenches. I bought the Snap-on metric set decades ago; and they have proven their (expensive) worth over time.

A few weeks ago, a seller cancelled My order for a SAE set of Sunex angle wrenches. That may have been the doings of the Tool Gods; who knew I really wanted a more affordable USA set. :beer: Looks like a prayer was answered:bounce:
 
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