nine4's projects, restorations and blunders

[nine4gmc]

Thanks guys, I'd highly recommend getting to know a scrap guy. I was lucky to have one frequent my area before I moved here and have got to know him through the years, now he usually tries to come straight to me before he takes anything to the scrap yard. Plus, I hit the auctions and buy up server racks and shelving when it goes cheap enough.

Thanks for stopping in!!

 

[nine4gmc]

New side project I picked up yesterday, I scavenged all the parts from a working treadmill with plans for modding a drill press. I want to use the incline motor for table lift and the 2.5 hp dc motor for turning the spindle. I'm ok with DC, switches and relays but not the digital part. I have everything out and bench tested, what will it require to get rid of that huge mother board control on the left and replace with a simple potentiometer for speed and rocker switch for table lift? I'm not worried about the digital rpm readout as I can get make an aftermarket speedo but if this one can be salvaged to work, I would like to use it.

Can anyone assist with the digital board removal from this equation? Thanks!

 

[Fyrme]

Awesome. That's thinking outside the box for repurposing parts. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Been milling over ideas for a drill press table lift myself.

 

[nine4gmc]

I was looking into using a power window motor from a vehicle for table lift but this will solve the speed problem and kill two birds with one stone, plus I only paid $3 for the treadmill

 

[ilovevocs]

That's a nice score for $3.00. I have been on the lookout for a treadmill; hoping to repurpose the motor for a power drive on my bead roller, I haven't found anything under $50.00 to date.

 

[racingtadpole]

New side project I picked up yesterday, I scavenged all the parts from a working treadmill with plans for modding a drill press. I want to use the incline motor for table lift and the 2.5 hp dc motor for turning the spindle. I'm ok with DC, switches and relays but not the digital part. I have everything out and bench tested, what will it require to get rid of that huge mother board control on the left and replace with a simple potentiometer for speed and rocker switch for table lift? I'm not worried about the digital rpm readout as I can get make an aftermarket speedo but if this one can be salvaged to work, I would like to use it.

Can anyone assist with the digital board removal from this equation? Thanks!

PM me some pics of the boards so I can see stuff up close and I can probably help.

DC motors are pulse width modulation to achieve speed control. Longer the pulse the more DC power the motor gets, the faster it turns. The control panel most likely has nothing of value in it for this project. If you can get a hold of the circuit diagram from the manufacturer that makes it even easier.

Have a search through Jabberwoki's posts, he chopped up a tready a few months ago for pretty much the same purpose.

 

[nine4gmc]

It does have the schematics, I will post when I get back from sears. The controller is the common MC60, I see people modding them over at hobby machinist but no links yet to how or what parts I need.

 

[Outlawmws]

Nine4 you only really need one of those control boards for the Treadmill motor. Probably the one with the aluminum heat sink (Closer pic will help...). you will also want the transformer looking thing, (it's a choke)

Did you Book mark my Rockwell DP conversion? that had most if not all the details for the pot controls.

The incline motor will work well for the lift, BUT is has a VERY short screw. You need to find some similarly threaded all thread...

 

[JC23]

Nice work, nine!

Or should I say nine work?

 

[nine4gmc]

Outlaw, I'm glad you dropped in, I knew you had a thread but could not remember what it was under, I just found it again.

The board is the one on the left, it's an MC-60 and google has been bringing back lots of good info on mods. I will be working on it this week in the spare time. I got lucky with this one, American DC motor and it's a 6700 rpm max The lift motor has a gear shaft that looks like it will mesh with the factory table lift, I hope.

MC-60 board

other board

DC Motor

incline motor

factory table lift

Thanks for stopping in JC!

 

[Farmall450]

The blunder in my last post above was forgetting to run the new wires through the motor back plate(top left), before hooking them up. Guess I could have painted it too

So you saw the bench coming together, and you saw the motor getting rewired, here is what I ended up doing with the two.

First some paint mixing, then sprayed with my cheap HF hvlp gun.


The next day I installed the handles and drawers on freshly greased tracks. Then I ripped a 2" thick, 30" wide butcher block down to 26.5" and used the 3.5" drop as a back stop. The bench is 47.5" overall to fit in any 4' space comfortably.


This is the small Craftsman lathe I just picked up recently. After knocking down to some manageable pieces, I brush painted with the remaining bench paint. I used a lathe part to custom match the Rustoleum before painting, it's pretty close for only using gray and black.

Sweetest setup I've ever seen!

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks Farmall, this is the one I just finished and will be keeping.

 

[nine4gmc]

Ok, back to the treadmill. I found these three potentiometers in my stash. Left is a double body U-12.5K-OHM, center is a 10k-OHM and the right is a B-50-OHM. Outlaw, you used a 10-ohm, right? Would I benefit any from using one of the others instead?

 

[nine4gmc]

OK, the incline motor was easy. Basic on-off-on switch has it going up and down, now I just need to mod it into the drill press refurb.

I can not figure out the DC motor and potentiometer setup. It works great with the oem control panel but I can't figure out how to make it work with the pot...

 

[Outlawmws]

5-10K pot will work.

Get a better pic of the MC-60 board. I think its the smaller red white back set of wires.

You will need to get the pot either full on or off for the motor to start, (have it anchored so it doesn't roll away...) and you still want the choke between the board and motor. on/off switch on the (Black) line coming in.

Is the motor a 2 or 4 wire? (If 4, the blue wires are a heat sensor/shutoff, an you wire that in series with one of the other two wires and the "remaining" 2 go to the board's output...)

 

[nine4gmc]

Got it Outlaw, chucketn over at H-M just helped me out. I now have both motors working, now to mod them into the refurb!

 

[kenfain]

Nice work! Thanks for sharing. That lathe set -up is too pretty to get dirty. I love old stuff.

 

[nine4gmc]

Nice work! Thanks for sharing. That lathe set -up is too pretty to get dirty. I love old stuff.

Thanks, but nothing is too pretty to get dirty

 

[kenfain]

Nice work! That lathe is too purty to get it dirty now! I love old stuff like that! Keep it comin. PS.couldn't find my original post, as this dang tiny pos. Phone had a brain fart when I originally posted sorry for the re-post .obviously it came thru. Hmmmm... maybe the brain fart was mine?

 

[rickhigginshtbr]

subscribed! great stuff man!

 

[Speedracer 64]

Awesome work.

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks guys, here is a recent resto on a Block Grinder, just in time for it's 50th birthday. Black and Gold Hammertone, coarse and fine wire wheels. Still need to get some visors and a light. The grinder is dated June 28th, 1963 :Willy_nil

 

[rickhigginshtbr]

lookin good man!

 

[Mohawk Dave]

NICE! man that looks good.

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks guys, I'm working on an original Craftsman tubular stand right now, stay tuned for pics soon.

 

[oldschoolguy]

I like it, nice

 

[nine4gmc]

and here is the stand. I went with black top/bottom with gray pole, both in rustoleum hammertone.

 

[alinc100]

Your work and your ambition in these projects is to be commended.
I love the ideas and the skills to bring it all together.

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks alinc100, I love making old things look/work like new.

I did this last night, half assed my treadmill motor on a 12.5" Delta planer I got from my scrap guy. The oem motor burned the armature, bearing and motor case up so someone tossed it in the dumpster. I got it free(traded 20lbs of scrap) to tinker with a while back but never got around to it until last night. After some bending and grinding, I got the treadmill motor to mount where the oem was. The oem pulley was a close fit so I spun the treadmill shaft with a file on the end enough to get the pulley to press on tight. I used the treadmill belt as the planer belt got ate when the oem motor crashed. The treadmill motor was a 20", I had to cut 6" out and hand stitch it back together with upholstery thread until I can find a 14" replacement belt. After trying out the belt, I ran a 2x4 through and planed all 4 sides easily. This pic is after, I thought I video'd two sides but apparently I do not know how to work a smart phone

I plan to make another motor mount since it is pivoting on one screw atm, then mount the circuit board and speed control in a project box and reassemble the plastic casing on the planer.

Now I have a planer

 

[Logan W]

Ive got that same lathe sitting in storage. I always wanted to do a resto to it. Thanks for the inspiration to dig it back out. Did you run into any trouble with yours?

 

[nine4gmc]

Dig it out, the 6" lathe had far fewer parts than the 12" I did so it was real quick and easy.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Dude! Awesome work. Hand stitch a belt...improvise, adapt, overcome. NICE!

 

[e-tek]

This thread just BLEW ME AWAY! That's the nicest scratch-built bench I've seen yet!!! Fantastic work on it. What do you do for a living?

I also had no idea of Outlaw and Jaberwoki incredible posts for repurposing these electronics, again proving to me how many awesome threads I must be missing!

Sometimes this board is like a University - just choose a subject and learn!

 

[bonneyman]

Thanks guys, here is a recent resto on a Block Grinder, just in time for it's 50th birthday. Black and Gold Hammertone, coarse and fine wire wheels. Still need to get some visors and a light. The grinder is dated June 28th, 1963 :Willy_nil

Dang, I love that black/gold contrast!

 

[fflintstone]

I like how you are posting all in one thread, I am going to have to start that and add some of the older stuff to mine.

nice work on the stuff, it is amazing what a fresh coat of paint will do!

 

[nine4gmc]

Dude! Awesome work. Hand stitch a belt...improvise, adapt, overcome. NICE!

Thanks Dave, I work with what I know.

This thread just BLEW ME AWAY! That's the nicest scratch-built bench I've seen yet!!! Fantastic work on it. What do you do for a living?

I also had no idea of Outlaw and Jaberwoki incredible posts for repurposing these electronics, again proving to me how many awesome threads I must be missing!

Sometimes this board is like a University - just choose a subject and learn!

Super thanks e-tek!! There are some nice DIY benches on this site, that means a lot and yes, Outlaw and Jaberwoki are a big help with repuposing. You can learn anything you want here, just gotta ask the right questions. I am an upholsterer by trade but I do all kinds of things for a living, no set job.

Dang, I love that black/gold contrast!

Thanks bonneyman, I plan to tie all my machines in to my color theme by the time I finish.

I like how you are posting all in one thread, I am going to have to start that and add some of the older stuff to mine.

nice work on the stuff, it is amazing what a fresh coat of paint will do!

Definitely start a thread, I got the idea from e-tek's project thread. All my resto's were in different threads prior to this and I could never find what I was looking for. A $5 coat of paint makes a $1000 difference in some things for sure

 

[Speedracer 64]

Do you have a next project lined up yet? Amazing work on everything.

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks Speedracer, I'm always working on something, actually a few somethings(ADD)... Right now I am working on my mill, among other things. I made leveling risers for it and now I'm stripping it down, getting it ready for a refresh. I also have a storage full of projects like 3 more block grinders, floor drill press, several vices and more cabinets and tool boxes than I will get to probably... Plus, you never know what will show up at my door needing fixin...

 

[bonneyman]

This settles it! When I get a C-man block grinder to restore, it's getting painted black and gold.

 

[Outlawmws]

This thread just BLEW ME AWAY! That's the nicest scratch-built bench I've seen yet!!! Fantastic work on it. What do you do for a living?

I also had no idea of Outlaw and Jaberwoki incredible posts for repurposing these electronics, again proving to me how many awesome threads I must be missing!

Sometimes this board is like a University - just choose a subject and learn!

Thanks Dave, I work with what I know.



Super thanks e-tek!! There are some nice DIY benches on this site, that means a lot and yes, Outlaw and Jaberwoki are a big help with repuposing. You can learn anything you want here, just gotta ask the right questions. I am an upholsterer by trade but I do all kinds of things for a living, no set job.