nine4's projects, restorations and blunders

[nine4gmc]

looking good man! Keep polishing those knobs!

Thanks man!

Try turning SafeSearch off. You'll get plenty of hits.

Nine4, are you sure thats a 150? Looks smaller like a 80. And what parts do you need I have a couple of them I tore apart to fix up Frankenstein.

Actually IDK what it is, I thought it was a 150 but I keep seeing 100's that look identical. I know it's heavy as fvck, model 103.23131, 15" with a 2-3/4" outside pole 33" long. Here is the list of missing parts from the diagram in the link.

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/4779.pdf

38632 Quill Lock Sleeve
18512 Quill Lock Screw
18129 Lock Handle and set screw
38631 Quill Lock
27714 Panel
27615 Feed Stop Rod
18427 Feed Stop Nut
18426 Feed Stop Spacer
38625 Table Lock Sleeve
38624 Table Tilt Lock

Good job Outlaw on seizing that window of opportunity.

He got me

 

[Outlawmws]

2-3/4 " post = either a 100 or the later 150. Both essentially the same DP

Is the Motor a period correct Craftsman or Dunlap? Usually there is a date code on the plate.

 

[nine4gmc]

Craftsman M2-51 Model 115.6962, TYPE CR220K21 and tiny below that is 5216290. This manual says 1952 so period correct, yes?

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/3331.pdf

 

[Outlawmws]

I would say so. That is almost certainly a Mod 100 DP, and the tilting table confirms that as by 1959 and the 150 series, they cheaped out on the tilting table to a fixed table. (might have been available separately, but I don't see it in the catalog)

Same basic DP, no harm no foul, and you have the better of the two tables...

 

[rickhigginshtbr]

Sorry man, I know how badly you wanted a 150... you might as well just box that up and ship it to me so you can keep hunting

 

[Outlawmws]

Here are the Specs for the "Best" King Sealey DPs from 1948 (Heavy Duty & one of mine), 52 (9four's) & 55 (100) and 59 (150). all had angle tables except the 150, but the 100's had a "production table" available, but that larger (10-1/4 X 16-1/4 ) table was not adjustable for angle, and did not have slots for bolting a vise down. It did have a coolant gutter. Not sure if the gutter was fitted for a drain...

I will bet you the 1/4" difference in throat depth was someone in marketing rounding off during the Mod. 100 years. I cannot imagine them changing the head casting from 1948 by 1/4" for the 100 years, and back again for the 150...

Other than that, all have the same depth of cut, same column size, same table size... any other differences are swallowed up and don't really matter.

All things being equal I'd rather have the 100 and earlier table like my '48, but the production table would be even better despite not being adjustable for angle. But I'd really rather have a modern round spinning table, or even better, the round spin and clamp (Vise) table that was posted in another thread a couple days ago!

1948 "Heavy Duty"

1952 100

1955 100

1959 150

 

[MN4x4]

Keep these restorations coming. I love to do them myself, and might get inspired to get off my **** and work on some if you embarrass me by doing any more!

 

[nine4gmc]

I would say so. That is almost certainly a Mod 100 DP, and the tilting table confirms that as by 1959 and the 150 series, they cheaped out on the tilting table to a fixed table. (might have been available separately, but I don't see it in the catalog)

Same basic DP, no harm no foul, and you have the better of the two tables...

The table excited me, I don't have tilt on the old Delta so this will be 10x better for me!!

Sorry man, I know how badly you wanted a 150... you might as well just box that up and ship it to me so you can keep hunting

I was boxing it up to send to you and then I read Outlaw's next post

Here are the Specs for the "Best" King Sealey DPs from 1948 (Heavy Duty & one of mine), 52 (9four's) & 55 (100) and 59 (150). all had angle tables except the 150, but the 100's had a "production table" available, but that larger (10-1/4 X 16-1/4 ) table was not adjustable for angle, and did not have slots for bolting a vise down. It did have a coolant gutter. Not sure if the gutter was fitted for a drain...

I will bet you the 1/4" difference in throat depth was someone in marketing rounding off during the Mod. 100 years. I cannot imagine them changing the head casting from 1948 by 1/4" for the 100 years, and back again for the 150...

Other than that, all have the same depth of cut, same column size, same table size... any other differences are swallowed up and don't really matter.

All things being equal I'd rather have the 100 and earlier table like my '48, but the production table would be even better despite not being adjustable for angle. But I'd really rather have a modern round spinning table, or even better, the round spin and clamp (Vise) table that was posted in another thread a couple days ago!

Thanks for all the great info Outlaw, I for one would be lost on a lot of this had you not been around.

Keep these restorations coming. I love to do them myself, and might get inspired to get off my **** and work on some if you embarrass me by doing any more!

Better get on the ball, post a project from start to finish in here and I'll send you a surprise.

 

[bluebolt]

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/4779.pdf

38632 Quill Lock Sleeve
18512 Quill Lock Screw
18129 Lock Handle and set screw
38631 Quill Lock
27714 Panel
27615 Feed Stop Rod
18427 Feed Stop Nut
18426 Feed Stop Spacer
38625 Table Lock Sleeve
38624 Table Tilt Lock

I think I will be able to help out!

 

[bluebolt]

And I think 150's are Crown label.

 

[bluebolt]

Quote:
Originally Posted by nine4gmc

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/4779.pdf

38632 Quill Lock Sleeve
18512 Quill Lock Screw
18129 Lock Handle and set screw
38631 Quill Lock
27714 Panel
27615 Feed Stop Rod
18427 Feed Stop Nut
18426 Feed Stop Spacer
38625 Table Lock Sleeve
38624 Table Tilt Lock

I think I will be able to help out!

Woop woop have the pieces in bold above.
The Feed Stop Rod is off of a 80 and is 6" versus 7.5" for a 100. You should be able to lengthen it with an all thread coupler
The thread on the stop rod is 5/8-18 fine thread. The knurled knobs are about 1" in diameter. You may be able to take a smaller knurled knob and drill and tap the hole to 5/8-18.
The feed stop spacer is a washer with oval hole so the washer can't spin. I would probably just use a regular washer.

 

[nine4gmc]

Definitely interested in the lock sleeve and tilt lock but I think the rod needs to be continuous to slide through the casting. If you connect it with a sleeve, the sleeve will be in the way of the adjuster nuts or will not allow full swing of the arbor. I think I can make one with all thread, just grind/mill off two sides then cut one end down and thread it for the bottom nut.

 

[bluebolt]

Definitely interested in the lock sleeve and tilt lock but I think the rod needs to be continuous to slide through the casting. If you connect it with a sleeve, the sleeve will be in the way of the adjuster nuts or will not allow full swing of the arbor. I think I can make one with all thread, just grind/mill off two sides then cut one end down and thread it for the bottom nut.

Actually I considered that, by looking at mine it should clear. May have to do a touch of grinding at top of coupler. It will also need to have more threads do you have a 5/8-18 die?

In any case it's free for you so play with it as you like

 

[nine4gmc]

You're the man!! Super thanks!!

 

[Fyrme]

After reading Outlaws post, I went back and looked mine over better (I don't use it much) I too believe mine is a 100 dated C3-53 and has the tilt table. Mine is the floor model however.

 

[Radio Ron w4ron]

Nice fan, I have a few old fans myself, got a Hunter Century qued up for
restoration maybe later this week.

http://radioheaven.homestead.com/Fan_Collection.html



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[nine4gmc]

After reading Outlaws post, I went back and looked mine over better (I don't use it much) I too believe mine is a 100 dated C3-53 and has the tilt table. Mine is the floor model however.

Cool, the tilt table is a treat for me!! Post some pics if you want!

Nice fan, I have a few old fans myself, got a Hunter Century qued up for
restoration maybe later this week.

http://radioheaven.homestead.com/Fan_Collection.html



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I have checked out the collection Thanks for posting and be sure to post up that fan when you get a chance!

Here are some teasers of the motor rebuild, should be done with the DP this weekend if weather permits.

 

[SatisTraction]

great post

 

[nine4gmc]

I knocked out this wood lathe hoping for a quick flip.

Before

After

And I forgot to mention, I picked this up last week so I can print out some logos for some of these restore jobs

 

[Fyrme]

Let us know how the decals work. I just read a little bit on it. Quite a process to get professional results. I bought a couple Dunlap waterslide decals off eBay for some Dunlap tools I picked up. I'm glad I read up on how to properly apply them.

 

[nine4gmc]

I'll let you know how they turn out when I start on the sander.

Here is the DP back together, runs like a sewing machine. I ordered a quill lock assembly from ebay and found a piece of scrap sheet that I plan to make a head band out of and bluebolt is sending me the remaining parts. Should be complete next week!

 

[SatisTraction]

very nice. this is one of my favorite post on this site

 

[yaidunno]

Nice looking job on the press!

 

[nine4gmc]

very nice. this is one of my favorite post on this site

Thanks man, did you find any more info on that new dp?

Nice looking job on the press!

Means a lot, I've seen your works of art!!

 

[Fyrme]

 

[Outlawmws]

The DP is looking great 9four! Is this your keeper, or are you going to sell it?

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks Man!

The DP is looking great 9four! Is this your keeper, or are you going to sell it?

This will be the keeper now, I'll be selling the Delta bench model soon when I find a replacement motor for it. The motor that's on it now belongs on the Delta floor model that I'll be restoring next(ish). I would like to find a floor model Craftsman next and use the Delta's production lift table on it but I will keep the bench as my primary.

 

[RogueFab]

I like drill presses. That one looks great.

 

[toomanytoyzz]

Helluva resto nine. You got me looking at mine now with delusions of grandeur .

 

[Rust]

Blunders? Haven't seen one in the whole thread.
I would like to order more blunders, please.
Nice work Sir!

 

[Fyrme]

Yeah me either. He claimed one very tiny blunder several pages back but most people didn't catch it. Pretty sure I have him beat on the blunders just on my last few updates to my thread.

 

[Flathead Red]

Awesome thread and great skills! Subscribed.

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[softailgarage]

Nice job, still waitin' to find me one of them. My favorite DP.

 

[mtnwkr]

Great looking DP. I don't need one, but if I found one that looked like that I'd have to have it

 

[nine4gmc]

Thanks everyone, you guys are great!

 

[nine4gmc]

Here is the Atlas dp I picked up over the weekend, looks cozy in there I do believe. Well, after some deep soul searching(Google Atlas Drill Press Images ), I have decided that I have to bring this back to glory and keep it as my floor model to match the mill, the logo is exactly the same.

 

[zkling]

Looks nice. I thought the atlas DP you got at auction was a bench model? Was the head just lowered? Either which way looks like a nice setup. Have any pics of the damaged table? How bad was it?

 

[softailgarage]

Well, I found one close, but still not a 150. 1958 '80', I've started to restore. I hope you plan on showing us how you'll do the headband as it looks like I'll be needing to do one also.

 

[nine4gmc]

I mentioned it's a floor model, it just looks like a bench because the head was lowered. Here is the original pic.

The Atlas DP table looks pristine, like the x/y was mounted there since new.

Here is my blunder of the year, loaded that heavy mofo in the back of my truck alone and broke off the crank handle.

And the damage on the x/y, at least I won't be scared to use it now

 

[zkling]

I mentioned it's a floor model, it just looks like a bench because the head was lowered. Here is the original pic.

Oops, sorry I did not see that. Dang for $100 that was a great deal. The other folks that bid up the off shore drill press to $2xx must have thought you were a fool for spending so much on that old piece of junk.

Here is my blunder of the year, loaded that heavy mofo in the back of my truck alone and broke off the crank handle.

And the damage on the x/y, at least I won't be scared to use it now

Aw, that isn't bad at all. That handle can be repaired or easily replaced. At least none of the casting got broken.