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Odd "Continental Air" 1/4" Ratchet...

Bolster

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Spotted this little 1/4 ratchet at the market today, and picked it up for $5, because it was marked, "Continental Air Tool, Cerritos, CA".

There is a hole in the drive that goes all the way through. There is no detent ball, or place for one. A socket just falls off, if you put one on.

Any idea of what this is, or what it was used for?

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There are lots of these types of ratchets around SoCal but I've never seen one marked Continental Air. They are Hylok ratchets used in aviation. The fastener has a small hex fastener in the center as a type of lock nut. SO still makes them and I believe Proto does too.

There has always been a check ball on the ones I've seen.
 
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Thank you, and D'oh! I think I just wasted $5.

Looks like a Proto knock-off. I wonder if a Proto rebuild kit would get me a working rat.

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Yes, looks like a Proto clone. I have a Proto 4749 right here and I'm tempted to try the guts in the Cerritos ratchet! Give it a shot tomorrow.
 

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I've got that exact same ratchet, Bolster. Mine has "Japan" stamped on the shaft opposite the ATHR-250.

I've never tried the Proto guts in mine, but it sure does look the same.


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Looks like it's riveted together.Continental Air wouldn't have been an airline by any chance?Perhaps a private branded tool supplied by Proto?
 
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Likely not, because like Jerry's, this rat has "Japan" stamped on the shaft. There are screws on the selector side, but as you see, they are "riveted" or whatever on the drive side. So there is no easy unscrewing them; I'll have to drill them out!
 
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We are interested in having you perform this autopsy, maybe even enough to find plomb/proto wrenches to send to you to help offset your financial losses

LOL, if you guys are really interested in this, then I shall proceed. No offerings to the Proto gods required.

It's considerable effort to save a $5 rat, but if it contributes to the general good, then why not.
 
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OK, what do you guys want here.

Do you want me to frankenstein it with a proto rebuild kit? Or does someone want to give me my $5 for it? You decide, majority rules and/or money talks.
 
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Hell if it's only $5 I'll buy it and you can use the sale as a way of trying out the paypal shipping to Canada!
 
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Caper, learning from the recent thread on this topic, I think the least expensive "use paypal/ship from your own house/don't visit the PO" option is $12 to Canada in a small flat rate box. Do you want to put $5+$12 into this? Just checking.
 

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Its what is known as a Hi-Lock ratchet. Someone asked a few weeks ago about a similar design ratchet. Many have a lock ring on the drive to hold the socket, the Proto manufactured ones, and the Snap-On ones do not (I have one of each).

I'll try to post a pic of a Hi-Lock later on.

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Sure Bolster,that's cheap compared to what most ratchets cost me to buy and ship here.PM me your Paypal info and I'll send you the money.
 

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Hi-Lock Aircraft Fasteners - A Short Lesson

Hi-Locks are basically bolts used in aircraft structure assembly. They are used in the place of rivets in many places in the aircraft as they are stronger and easier to install, Boeing used automated machinery to install these fasteners.

The fasteners are available in many different diameters, lengths, and head styles. There are two basic head styles, protruding and flush. The protruding head is available in two types, the larger one, as in the pic, is a tension head, while there is a smaller, thinner head that may be used if the fastener is only loaded in shear. The fasteners may be manufactured from steel, or titanium and will have many different finishes, such as cadmium plate and they are generally lubed with a alcohol finish that leaves a whitish residue on them.

In normal installations, the fasteners are installed in holes that are a one or two thousands interference fit. The fastener has to be driven into the hole, and it does not try to turn when the collar is installed. Smaller sizes are prone to turning even if interference fit, and all have an Allen recess in the end of the fastener.

The collars are made of different materials, steel, aluminum, and titanium, and have a recess in them for the shank of the fastener to protrude into. The red collar is for a fastener of standard shank size, and on the right is a blue collar with a larger recess to accept fasteners with a 1/64" or 1/32" oversize shanks. Shown is a 1/64" OS shank on the right fastener. These red and blue collars are anodized aluminum.

Just under the hex of the collar is a weak point. When you run the collar down (and it is pinched out of round to make it self locking) the collar will tighten up and then the hex will shear off, indicating correct torque has been achieved.

This Proto ratchet has a hole all the way thru it, for the Allen wrench, but does not have a socket retention ring or ball.

The remaining pics are in the next post.

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Again, thanks for the info. Had always wondered what the Hy-Lok system was.


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