Odd ratchet

[elidas]

Any idea what this 1/4 ratchet is?

 

[bonneyman]

No idea as to manufacturer, but it's cool!

 

[3baygarage]

Hey Elidas, I saw this after posting in the GS thread. Can you add more pics?


I don't recognize it at all. What drive size is it?

 

[ganymede]

The head reminds me of a Bog brand ratchet.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Is it one piece? Looks like that hex handle (not sure I've ever seen THAT before) could be a separate piece.

 

[rsanter]

The type that is easy to fit a pipe over and over torque it.....

Bob

 

[jreb10]

No idea about the maker.

But here is mine. I picked it up a few years ago as part of a flat of tools at an auction. It was stuck but I freed it up. I have been puzzling over it ever since:

 

[elidas]

Is it one piece? Looks like that hex handle (not sure I've ever seen THAT before) could be a separate piece.

Hex is one piece with head.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thanks. Note the different handle on the second example.

 

[elidas]

Here is more pictures.

 

[elidas]

Thanks. Note the different handle on the second example.

Mine is the highly coveted FULL hex version!!

 

[r_olson_06]

It looks oddly similar to the no name 1/4 Frankenstein ratchets.

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[twertsy]

I don't know either but I did notice a Bonney, Bog and Bog made Plomb ratchet trying to snag that dollar.............

 

[3baygarage]

Very interesting Elidas! Like I said in the Garage Sale Thread, just when I think I've seen it all...

Jreb- Thanks for showing that too! It proves it is not a one off, yet the mystery continues.

They certainly look like a a few different things to me.

Could be irrelevant but old old Husky and Cornwell both used hex shaped handles on their speeders, although their tools should have been marked.

The way the back of the ratchet gear overlaps the circular piece holding the selector reminds me of old MAC ratchets.

It looks like these don't come apart, right?

What drive sizes are they?

 

[jreb10]

It looks like these don't come apart, right?

What drive sizes are they?

They are 1/4". I can see no way to take it apart.

And I might add mine is incredibly coarse. All of 18 teeth.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Just for sh*ts and grins, what is the size (diameter) of the hex stock?

 

[jreb10]

Just for sh*ts and grins, what is the size (diameter) of the hex stock?

Looks like 3/8" face-to-face.

 

[elidas]

Just for sh*ts and grins, what is the size (diameter) of the hex stock?

I can fit a 5/16 wrench over it.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Hmm. Well, I'll admit that they remind me more of a little gunsmith set than automotive. But I got nothing other than hunch.

 

[3baygarage]

It looks oddly similar to the no name 1/4 Frankenstein ratchets.

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They do have that shape.

They are 1/4". I can see no way to take it apart.

And I might add mine is incredibly coarse. All of 18 teeth.

Guess what also has 18 teeth.

 

[Bruce Lancaster]

I took one apart about a year ago...these exist in lots of minor nameless variants. If my memory is working today, the handle is actually a bolt, unscrew that and then the center drive just pushes out upward with a good shove by thumb. After that I don't remember, but it's all apparent as you get in.
Center is grooved/knurled, too shallow to be really called teeth...pawl is one piece that swings over to reverse, very like my 1962 Craftsman, but since it is ratcheting against shallow knurls rather than serious teeth there is very little strength. Most I have seen have a big skip where one knurl has been stripped off.
They are superficially attractive for smooth action but really are not strong enough for any serious use.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

If my memory is working today, the handle is actually a bolt

It sure looks like it, hence my question on one piece or two. But the OP says it's one piece.
EDIT: I just realized you may be talking about the little Frankensteins.
How you doin', Bruce? Long time no e.

 

[elidas]

It sure looks like it, hence my question on one piece or two. But the OP says it's one piece.
EDIT: I just realized you may be talking about the little Frankensteins.
How you doin', Bruce? Long time no e.

I just tried it. The handle does unscrew!!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

You're killing me, elidas!

 

[jakemac]

I'm finding this thread to be highly entertaining.
Oh, yeah, I'm curious about the ratchet as well.

 

[elidas]

Here it is apart.

 

[3baygarage]

Well look at that.

Lugz called it.

Here you can see the other style apart:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=335628

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That (not forged) and the other construction features point away from the major automotive tool mfgrs and toward outfits like GM Co, Nepros, etc who made economical little multi-purpose mr. fix-it type sets for radio hobbyists, homeowners, etc. I was thinking gunsmith earlier but I take that back. Those sets are usually female drive with a greater diversity of bits (hex, square, screwdriver, etc).

 

[3baygarage]

Well, over a year later and here is a little socket set on Ebay. I hope Elidas and Jreb see this.

Power Master set, and some pictures from the add:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ratchet-Socket-Box-Set-Complete/153001388543?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Looks like Oxwall type stuff

 

[4xdog]

There's what looks like a wear mark on the end of the hex shaft. Not a lot of penetration though, if it was inserted frequently into some other part.