+1 on the Fumoto valve. I have one on each of the vehicles in "the fleet." Makes dealing with the oil pans pretty much a thing of the past.
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+1 on the Fumoto valve. I have one on each of the vehicles in "the fleet." Makes dealing with the oil pans pretty much a thing of the past.
GasEngineer
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Yeah I ended up putting one on my 6.4l powerstroke that takes 16 quarts of freakin oil. Just position a clear empty jug under the valve and then close it until you set the next jug under it. Clear jugs are key with a diesel though so you don't over fill the jug.
Don't fall for the $10 plastic clip they sell to prevent the valve from somehow accidentally opening. A small steel hose clap works better.
Jarhead0408
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Ryan, I don't know if you got my pm man, but here you go:
The Lisle's minimum height is right at 35 inches, but with a chop saw you could shorten a bit more I'd imagine.
I have 14 foot ceilings and with a 2001 Ford Expedition on the lift I can still snake this caddy under there. Even though I bought mine for half off I'd consider it a bargain at full price.
Like many people here, I drain into a pan like http://a.co/9gR4jvL - it's a big target to hit and plenty of capacity for a couple vehicles worth of oil.
For transport, I use a "utility jug" like http://a.co/4uwwm3C Holds 5 gallons, they're solid and seal up and are generally meant to be hauled around, and they've got a huge (maybe 3"?) opening so they are very easy to pour into from the drain pan, and also empty quickly when I take in the used oil.
For transport, I use a "utility jug" like http://a.co/4uwwm3C Holds 5 gallons, they're solid and seal up and are generally meant to be hauled around, and they've got a huge (maybe 3"?) opening so they are very easy to pour into from the drain pan, and also empty quickly when I take in the used oil.
vettex2
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Seems like the shallow "landing" area would /could lead to splashes.
Why not use the jugs the oil comes in , or even milk jugs instead of wasting a fuel jug on it ?
imitationdave
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I use 5 gallon buckets and lids from home depot.
Haven't had any issues.
I don't trust milk jugs to stay closed in the back seat of my jeep. In cases of both milk jugs and oil jugs, pouring the waste oil back into the small opening was just time consuming and messy enough, for me, to be worth the price of the utility jug. The 3" neck on the utility jug is quick and easy to pour into without any mess, and without messing with funnels.
kylerohde
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Hmmm, maybe I'll start doing that. I guess if the bottles are a little slick inside, that's better than having them dripping oil for the recyclers. I'll bring my empties back home & get them good-n-empty.
Much as I hate throwing away those jugs, every recycling program I've ever read about/asked about says they cannot recycle them. Not sure if it's different in your area.
rlitman
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That's exactly why I use dedicated oil recycling containers.
The utility jug looks like it would be really nice, but I've already got stuff.
dodgepolara500
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I don't use a pan anymore. I installed one of these valves on my oil pan. I connect a plastic tube to it and connect that to a 1 gallon milk jog and let it flow into that. I then leave it on the curb to be recycled (or you can simply take to recycle station parts store)
I never touch the oil. Yes you have to deal with the oil filter but if it is drained it is straightforward to handle. I have a cartridge types on my Jeep so no need to drain it.
http://www.ezoildrainvalve.com
I never touch the oil. Yes you have to deal with the oil filter but if it is drained it is straightforward to handle. I have a cartridge types on my Jeep so no need to drain it.
http://www.ezoildrainvalve.com
dodgepolara500
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Just posted with the same suggestion as I didn't see this post. Works great!
C_F
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Thanks, sounds like I'd better find out first.
Oregon rock crusher
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It seems like there is an oil change going on at least every weekend in my shop. My diesel truck, the wife's car, and four married kids with a couple cars each means a lot of used oil to deal with. I recycled an old oil pan from a diesel truck to drain filters and dump the used oil in and mounted it out of the way on the edge of my deck shop. It has an old cement mixer chute for a cover to keep debris and what not out. The oil pan drains down to an 80 gallon aluminum tank that used to be the water tank on a mixer truck. I can gravity feed out of it into 55 gallon drums when it gets full.
For collection out of the vehicle I often use a vintage drain pot on a stand or the bottom of an old oil bath air cleaner as shown in the open drain pan pic below. I just leave the filters and pan in there to drain and close the lid until next time someone needs an oil change. I have a couple of friends who come around every once in a while to pick up my reserves. One uses it for heat and the other filters and process it into fuel for his vintage military truck. Ed.
For collection out of the vehicle I often use a vintage drain pot on a stand or the bottom of an old oil bath air cleaner as shown in the open drain pan pic below. I just leave the filters and pan in there to drain and close the lid until next time someone needs an oil change. I have a couple of friends who come around every once in a while to pick up my reserves. One uses it for heat and the other filters and process it into fuel for his vintage military truck. Ed.
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BellyUpFish
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Topsider Vacuum pump.
I love this thing. I've used it for all sorts of liquid evacuation. Some vehicles it won't work on, but the ones it does, it's great.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001445IZ8/?tag=atomicindus08-20
I love this thing. I've used it for all sorts of liquid evacuation. Some vehicles it won't work on, but the ones it does, it's great.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001445IZ8/?tag=atomicindus08-20
dodgepolara500
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BellyUpFish
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That thing is genius
Is it easy to empty?
Yeh, you just take off the cap and pour it out. Super simple. No fuss. Amount of the mess depends on your ability to not sling the tube around. My 6 year olds love it.
NewShockerGuy
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How long and how much do you to pump it in order to have good suction?
My friend has a mitivac that is the taller 2 gallon one that everyone seems to love but you have to keep pumping it up and it's not a walk a way type thing.
These seem cool but I love the fact that I can flick the lever on a fumoto valve and then walk away and do something and not have to worry about constantly having to check on or pump up something in order to extract the fluids.
I will say that does look much better than the plastic mitivac. I love that it's metal! Do you have an oil smell when it's not used? That's one thing I don't want to have in the garage is a constant lingering oil smell and I know some storage devices and cans have that since you can never really "clean them" like you can with an oil pan.
Thanks,
-Nigel
BellyUpFish
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30 pumps.. Maybe 20 seconds worth of pumping, gives you a pretty good long pull on oil.. It's a fairly pump up and walk away. I usually hang out doing other things in the garage while I'm changing the oil, so if I need to grab a few more pulls, it's not a huge deal.
Yep. I agree. I just found out the Topsider doesn't work in my wife's H3, so I'm debating Fumoto vs. Fram drain.
I typically take the spent oil out of it and into the 5 quart jug I just pulled from, so I haven't experienced any issues with the smell. My shop is also a decent size, so it may just dissipate over the span of the garage.
I constantly find uses for it all the time. Sucking fuel out of things, etc.. I'd been a pretty handy gizmo.
Rewind97
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That's trick right there.
NewShockerGuy
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Awesome thank you!
Get the Fumoto over the Fram drain plug. The longest Fumoto valve I have on my car is my 05' STi... so it's been used and on there for 12 years. Zero problems, zero drips, been through numerous PA winters, autocross...etc.
They just work.
-Nigel
Rewind97
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Who has the best price on Fumoto valves?
Motiracer38
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I bought all of mine off Amazon, best price I could find at the time. I just wish I had a cleaner alternative to removing a half filled oil filter screwed sideways into a block.
paulsomlo
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Maybe one of these would help: http://www.formafunnel.com/I've used one on a Honda Civic. Previously, the oil would drip down my forearm.
BellyUpFish
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A turn to loosen, then throw a garbage bag over it and bag it out. No more mess.
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vettex2
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so many options. Some complicated , some simple
I prefer simple.
I prefer simple.
gewf631
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I've been following this, especially those that **** the oil out through the dipstick.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but don't most of you have to climb underneath to replace the filter anyway?
I've only changed oil on maybe 30 different vehicles (not including motorcycles and implements), and can only think of a couple where I could get to the filter from up-top. So, no matter how you get the oil out, you've still got to deal with the filter.
Shameless plug, but here's where Subaru is now placing the filter (the blue canister)...
Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but don't most of you have to climb underneath to replace the filter anyway?
I've only changed oil on maybe 30 different vehicles (not including motorcycles and implements), and can only think of a couple where I could get to the filter from up-top. So, no matter how you get the oil out, you've still got to deal with the filter.
Shameless plug, but here's where Subaru is now placing the filter (the blue canister)...
paulsomlo
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They didn't do a very good job of hiding it. My '96 BMW has the filter up top as well, but I still drain from below, because it's a good idea to get underneath on a regular basis just to do some inspection.
BellyUpFish
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Yep, I have to get under there. I don't mind the "getting under the car." I don't like playing the "Pull the plug and get oil all over the place" game.
The vacuum pump eliminates that, for the most part, for me.
But you're 100% correct, you still have to figure out what to do with the filter. I usually give it a 1/4 turn or so and then slide a thick trash bag over it and twist it off.
Have you looked at a filter relocation kit for your vehicle?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g4985-1/applications
BellyUpFish
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Actually, no. I've never given it any real thought. Might be worth looking into.
livinlife
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I change my own oil. Save it in old 5 qt. Oil jugs. Use it to light fires in the fire pit. If I have an excess of oil, I keep dumping it little by little on the fire to burn it up.
Yes, I'm an environmental ******, and proud of it......
Yes, I'm an environmental ******, and proud of it......
I found the website the best price for everything. I bought the clip, drain tube and valve for 25.00 with free shipping during one of their email promotions. If you sign up they send out deals and coupons all the time.
Perrorojo
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mudflap
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It's also good to pour along the bottom of the barn to keep any boards that have ground contact from rotting...
this is what I use concrete mixing tub
I have a large one for when pulling motors and a smaller one for oil changes, I took copper pipe and heated it up to mold the plastic so poor it out. The larger one I use mostly to catch anti freeze since there are so many places it will pour from.
I have a large one for when pulling motors and a smaller one for oil changes, I took copper pipe and heated it up to mold the plastic so poor it out. The larger one I use mostly to catch anti freeze since there are so many places it will pour from.
I dump my waste oil into 55 gallon drums.. originally was going to get a waste oil heater, but haven't gotten around to it. I was doing the 5 gallon run and dump to the local auto parts store, and at times they might let me dump 10 gallons. very inconvenient. I found that the recycling yard in the township next to mine, has a self serve oil dump. It is outside the normal yard, and is unmanned, open 24/7 .. So now I take 10-15 gallons of oil in 5gal blue plastic kerosene cans, along with all the oil filters I collected and drained.. and take ride out on sat afternoon and Sunday morning.. to start getting rid of my 100 gallons. I choose off hours, since there is no line. and it works out very well. Worth checking if your local recycle yard (or next township) has something similar. Also the blue cans (typical gas cans).. can be closed up tight for transport which keeps your oil drain empty for next maint window. It a benefit that they also have a place to dump your oil filters .. so they don't end up in your garbage.
bluesurf
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http://www.harborfreight.com/6-1-4-quarter-gallon-oil-extractor-46149.html
Works well on all of our 4-wheeled vehicles
Works well on all of our 4-wheeled vehicles
jessejames7112
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Oil is not haz mat...haul as much as you please.
DGersic
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All of my cars have Fumoto drain pan valves. Wonderful little things, highly recommended. I push the drain pan under, flip the lever, and it drains. No muss, no fuss.
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