DGersic
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Yeah, those look nice, but with a garage with 7' ceiling, there's no way I'm getting that under anything.
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Yeah, those look nice, but with a garage with 7' ceiling, there's no way I'm getting that under anything.
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DGersic
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I've been following this, especially those that **** the oil out through the dipstick.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but don't most of you have to climb underneath to replace the filter anyway?
I've only changed oil on maybe 30 different vehicles (not including motorcycles and implements), and can only think of a couple where I could get to the filter from up-top. So, no matter how you get the oil out, you've still got to deal with the filter.
Shameless plug, but here's where Subaru is now placing the filter (the blue canister)...
Wife's parents had a Buick where the filter was only accessible from the passenger side wheel well. Had to pull the wheel off to get at it.
Pretty much everything else has the filter on the bottom. I don't mind, it gives me a chance to look around and spot any new problems before they get to be big problems. Last oil change on the wife's car I spotted a small coolant leak that turned out to be a failing radiator, for example.
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The one gripe for my Mustang. I can loosen the filter from the top, though, but unscrewing it and not getting oil everywhere was a bear--tried the plastic bag trick, but it would just stick to the filter as oil started oozing out and still spill.
I finally started making a tray/funnel out of aluminum foil to direct the oil into the drain pan. That seems to work pretty well.
I use a cut down 5 gallon bucket as a drain pan, it seems to work a lot better than a real drain pain, and then I just pour the used oil in containers (I used to use 2 gallon kerosene containers when I burned kerosene, now I use used oil containers, antifreeze, windshield washer fluid, etc)
Garanok
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This is what we use for most things in the small engine shop where I work. I have one in my garage for the side work I do. I don't have time to do a lot of my own work on the trucks. I have a good mechanic within a few blocks that handles everything but what is dealer specific for me, for a decent price.
As far as transport I can toss the "sucker" in the back of the truck and stop by my mechanic's shop and dump or wait until I get to work and do it.
A**holes Garage
Banned
The dreaded, leaky, cheap plastic oil drain container. Been through a dozen or so over the years.
I had a local fabricator build me a low profile, aluminum oil container with O ring, threaded caps. Works great, but only holds 4.5 qts. dangit. Only work on cycles and ATV.
Anyway, I'm hell bent on fabricating a low profile, steel or aluminum oil pan container that doesn't leak, holds at least 7 qts. and is portable enough to take to the local car parts place to dispose of the oil.
Surprised someone hasn't done it yet.
I had a local fabricator build me a low profile, aluminum oil container with O ring, threaded caps. Works great, but only holds 4.5 qts. dangit. Only work on cycles and ATV.
Anyway, I'm hell bent on fabricating a low profile, steel or aluminum oil pan container that doesn't leak, holds at least 7 qts. and is portable enough to take to the local car parts place to dispose of the oil.
Surprised someone hasn't done it yet.
paulsomlo
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Great idea, but at a couple of cents for a square foot of aluminum foil, the cheapo solution is hard to beat.
and expensive.
mrborohachi
Well-known member
Luckily a good car buddy of mine has a restaurant and he turned me on to these oil containers. Lately i've just been going to the back of asian restaurants Thai & Chinese joints and the lazy workers always put these empty jug/boxes right outside the back door and take them out to the dumpster at the end of the night. I've also scored these jug/boxes in movie theater dumpsters too
A word of caution when re-using these containers the boxes will get weak and it clearly warns on the box to never remove outer cardboard box, because they made the inner plastic as thin as possible and it can not hold up to the pressures of the oil inside without the support of the cardboard box. I've had to McGyver duct tape reinforce the box.
A word of caution when re-using these containers the boxes will get weak and it clearly warns on the box to never remove outer cardboard box, because they made the inner plastic as thin as possible and it can not hold up to the pressures of the oil inside without the support of the cardboard box. I've had to McGyver duct tape reinforce the box.
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This:
Drain valve - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VCD7UE/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Drain valve lever clip - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011SDCZAK/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Vinyl tube - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HE5DUQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Plus a 5qt Mobil 1 oil jug, which does not leak. If that wont fit under your car, find a smaller jug but with a similar setup.
Problem. Solved.
Drain valve - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VCD7UE/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Drain valve lever clip - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011SDCZAK/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Vinyl tube - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HE5DUQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Plus a 5qt Mobil 1 oil jug, which does not leak. If that wont fit under your car, find a smaller jug but with a similar setup.
Problem. Solved.
Have a saturn Aura XR. I yank the airbox out to get the filter from the top because I hate doing 'em from the bottom so much. So much easier to get the filter when you're not under it. The Aura's filter is sideways slanted slightly down and has a small trough-like thing under it that directs the oil into a nice stream that clears everything underneath it. Way better than many I've done, but still not as awesome as the subaru.
NewShockerGuy
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I've been following this, especially those that **** the oil out through the dipstick.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but don't most of you have to climb underneath to replace the filter anyway?
I've only changed oil on maybe 30 different vehicles (not including motorcycles and implements), and can only think of a couple where I could get to the filter from up-top. So, no matter how you get the oil out, you've still got to deal with the filter.
Shameless plug, but here's where Subaru is now placing the filter (the blue canister)...
Yep that's why I think the suction method is hugely in favor over on the Mercedes forum. For instance just like the subie, our Merc has the oil filter up there too. In a case like that if ALL of our cars had top mount oil filter it would probably make sense to **** it out via the dip stick because then there is no need to get on the ground. Since the only car we own has the top mounted oil filter and everything else is down below I'm OK with just doing normal oil changes. I see the appeal. I guess I'm kinda out of the norm in that aspect most people on that forum have many MB's, so when trying to explain taking the drain bolt out or using a valve some scoff and wonder why one would want to get dirty...lol
I do like the top filter location though. There is ZERO mess, zero drips, zero "oil dripping all over the engine" unlike my wife's solara that has the oil filter in the middle of the engine up front. If you don't do an oil change when it's somewhat cool you will burn your hand on the exhaust, it's annoying AF.
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kmoon
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http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performance-Products/555/80260/10002/-1
I have two of these to store oil in and the crappy oil pan
I have two of these to store oil in and the crappy oil pan
Wouldn't there be an issue of not getting all of the oil/debris out using the vacuum method?
bwringer
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I like this idea. A lot. The world's most skookum oil pan. I'm sort of surprised this doesn't already exist.
I'm wondering if there's some existing metal container or object that could be easily adapted.
I also spotted this a while back -- a nice low-profile 10 quart plastic drain pan from Harley. I haven't seen one in person, but if the various fittings are a cut above the average, this could be a very nice choice for bikes and cars low to the ground:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/low-profile-oil-drain-pan
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bpjr
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Exactly what I use and do. This pan is low profile and easy to manage. Same deal with the cap too. The Mobile 1 jugs have a wide mouth that makes transfer a little easier than others. I store the drain pain on a shelf and use a pizza box to set it on to catch any drips. Walmart is close and takes the old oil.
duwem
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Always been my concern, that's why I use gravity to get the oil and all the **** in the bottom of the pan, to come out.
And yes I have one of the chitty walmart deals with the thread on cap that leaks all over the damned place.
I've been using one of these for a few years and I'm ready to move on from it. Once it is full it is a hassle to carry and it is difficult to drain. And the cap just recently started leaking even though it has an o-ring.A few months back I picked up this OTC 1577 "Transfer Tank" that is both a drain pan and completely seal-able to transfer waste oil as well.
I have this as well for the past few years and have been happy with it. I would recommend this if you have space for it.
PhantomEB
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I use old coolant jugs for used oil, always one or two kicking around for those early mornings out camping to throw some kindling and used oil onto for a quick flare up. The old coolant jugs make it easy for me to differentiate between. When taking excess to the fire dept I use the oil jugs.
Back on topic, never had an issue with the pan with the spout, even easier when I have my solvent tank around to clean it out with. Do need a funnel buddy though!
Back on topic, never had an issue with the pan with the spout, even easier when I have my solvent tank around to clean it out with. Do need a funnel buddy though!
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Jinks
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Another Fumoto valve user. Clean & easy, & you never touch oil. I run the drain tube into an old 5 gallon gas can that I can close up & transport to the county oil recycle igloo.
I cut a thirty gallon barrel into thirds, along the ribs. The center ring got dumped. With a little hammer work I folded the edges of the top and bottom pieces over for a clean edge. the bottom is my oil drain pan.
The top, with a short piece of pipe screwed into the hole, sits on top of the oil tank that feeds my waste oil heater. It makes a large capacity, pretty much spill proof funnel. I trimmed an old refrigerator shelf to fit inside, oil filters sit on that to drain.
The top, with a short piece of pipe screwed into the hole, sits on top of the oil tank that feeds my waste oil heater. It makes a large capacity, pretty much spill proof funnel. I trimmed an old refrigerator shelf to fit inside, oil filters sit on that to drain.
6768rogues
Banned
I put my used oil in a plastic 55 gallon drum. By the end of the year I have a full drum or two and I take them to my buddy at the corner garage, where he burns it in his waste oil burner.
cajunfirehawk
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I still have a few of the cheap plastic oil drain pans but after changing my own oil for many years I have converted all of my cars engines and some of their transmissions oil draining over to fumoto valves and on most of them if possible I run the ****** so I can do this...best **** ever, no pans needed, just recycle my old water and milk jugs! Yes, a lil slower but I have the time, now if I could just get my oil filters off this neat...YMMV
(pic courtesy of the internet)
(pic courtesy of the internet)
Rewind97
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That's it right there........no matter how cleanly you drain the oil, you still gotta get that oil filter swapped. Show me a clean way to do that!!!!
A lot of modern cars are being made with cartridge filters that can be taken out from the top, nearly every oil i do now that car isn't even on the lift. Its clean enough if you have a cloth or plastic bag to put the old filter in after its taken out.
tinmanwpk
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Worst oil filter installation ever: MGB. It was easy to get to in the engine compartment. However, it was a screw on type of can. Upside down. When you unscrewed it, oil went everywhere.
dadsEH
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I use an 8 ltr plastic tray for my changes...cardboard on the floor and before i drain into the container put a garbage bag liner in it...still easy to decant into the waste drum and toss the bag... no mess charlie.
dadsEH
Well-known member
Heres a tip for the side mount oil filters....
loosen it off a slide a small plastic shopping bag over the filter when you spin it off..sure saves on the oil splash when it comes off.
loosen it off a slide a small plastic shopping bag over the filter when you spin it off..sure saves on the oil splash when it comes off.
isb cornbinder
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I go to Mister Lube. I don't have any interest in doing the work anymore. My Valkyrie Interstate goes to Imperial Cycle for service.
I still have those plastic catch pans and I may never use them again.
I still have those plastic catch pans and I may never use them again.
Dragfluid
ALLIANCE MEMBER
This here oil changin' stuff is serious business.
capterik
Active member
Alright fellas... I've had it. I'm done with those crappy plastic oil catch pans that you buy at the typical national autoparts chain. I'm just done with them...
To read the rest of this blog entry from The Garage Journal, click here.
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I own this model, and love it, got it from Northern tool. I use it for more than just oil, also anti freeze, I just clean it out before switching, pump moves fluid quickly
When i was a kid i used to use old plastic basins and refill the old containers. Must of had close to 15 full 5L bottles before i done anything about them. In the end i phoned up a local-ish supplier of oil burners to ask if they wanted them, they took them and gave me £20 back, not bad for some old oil.
sberry
Banned
If I was in the burbs in a home garage would be a jiffy lube guy too, local Ford dealer here does a good job for 30$ and they wash it. I might do other work at home but changing oil wouldn't be hi on the list.