Above 1200 Sq/FT Out on Quaker Road

[Farmall450]

I think the bees wings would ruin your fresh wash job pretty quick.

 

[jblnut]

I think the bees wings would ruin your fresh wash job pretty quick.

Bees wings ****. No way around that. They get EVERYWHERE !!

 

[Sifan]

waiting for installation of electric opener for the hay bales LOL

 

[jblnut]

Not sure if it is progress or just speculation but we met with the lumberyard that supplied materials for the hay shed and original steer barn about getting a price on the 2049 Shop. This is the layout we gave them. 54'x72'x18' overall.


Not much to show on the doors side of things but this is the office/bathroom/2nd story area. The area to the left will be a full height welding/fab area with some pallet racking and a couple workbenches. The idea with the 2nd story is to have a 12'x24' living room up there. The kiddos can come out and "help" in the shop and go hang out up there and stay out of Mama's hair for a bit as needed

 

[Sifan]

Optional quote with a 26' door on the other end? Might be nice having a pull through for two wagons, or disk with rolling basket ect. Never know, Mama Bear might want to pull her bus toyhauler with attached camper through

 

[ABSTIFFGS]

Try as I may I cannot seem to find it BUT I sprayed DuPont paint on the camper bus in our hayshed. We did put bales in one doorway so the wind wouldn't kick up dust and make it all crappy. So ... dust in a wash bay doesn't seem that big a deal

"Hay shed paint job" I remember.

 

[jeepxj]

2049 shop should have dimensions that add up to 2049. and not in sq ft.

whatever you do don't watch kyle from RR buildings. it gets expensive quick:

I'd personally put a loft all the way across that right wall and make parts storage on top with a more enclosed dirty welding/grinding area below. but its not my money.

 

[jblnut]

Optional quote with a 26' door on the other end? Might be nice having a pull through for two wagons, or disk with rolling basket ect. Never know, Mama Bear might want to pull her bus toyhauler with attached camper through

That was discussed only after the dirtwork was done so not gonna be able to happen easily now. I'll post a proposed internal layout/use for each area in the shop and maybe it'll make sense or maybe not. I'm wide open to suggestions as all we have now is a flat dirt pad

"Hay shed paint job" I remember.

Jeez you're old if you remember that. That was pre both of us finding our new online forum homes here on The Garage Journal. It's such a wonderful place

I'm going to have to dig some pictures of that paint job out of the archives now I suppose. I spent more on paint than I did in the bus and then painted it in the dustiest building I could find.

2049 shop should have dimensions that add up to 2049. and not in sq ft.

whatever you do don't watch kyle from RR buildings. it gets expensive quick:

I'd personally put a loft all the way across that right wall and make parts storage on top with a more enclosed dirty welding/grinding area below. but its not my money.

Square yards would be amazing. 104'x180' would be an amazing thing !!

That guy Kyle has had in influence in this building already. House wrap on 100% plus 2' into the attic, wet set brackets poured into drilled holes, the way he puts the plastic down to the floor under the tin and a bunch of other things that I like will be in the shop for sure. He's entertaining and has easy to watch videos.

Great minds think alike about the loft. It might all get built at the same time money depending. I'm not 100% sure what I want to do for ceiling height and walls and stuff in that half so it'll probably wait for a bit until I get that figured out.

 

[jblnut]

I'm going to have to dig some pictures of that paint job out of the archives now I suppose. I spent more on paint than I did in the bus and then painted it in the dustiest building I could find.

Well Neat. I'm quoting myself

The bus is all primed and ready for paint !! I do not remember the paint code but it is as close to Bud Light Blue as I could find. I purchased a full gallon and a full half gallon can of DuPont paint from the local AutoZone along with hardener and all the goodies to go with it. Yeah ... way more in paint than the bus cost.....


And I did it in a hayshed


It actually worked very well and turned out pretty good considering the quality of the paint booth.

 

[jblnut]

Holy smokes been a while since I've gotten three in a row !!!

Goodies from John Deere and a pretty seriously delicious cookie I found on a farm today.


Isn't that a neat looking hydraulic cylinder shaft !!!


Yikes those old seals look pretty nasty


But the new ones look like about $85 so yay !!!


This was the one left in the cylinder on the tractor and I was pretty sure it was going to be a major PITA but it actually came out and went in very nicely.


Garwsh that looks nice


Before reassembly I always use plenty of schmoo to make sure things come apart again when/if needed.


Left side together ...


Right side together and no leaks !!! Yay !! Two more leaks solved on this hydraulic oil drinking Deere

 

[Farmall450]

Can't blame a deere for being thirsty when all the water is frozen.

 

[XJSuperman]

Staying busy in the cold as expected, I see. My (now heated) garage has been full of paint fumes as well this last week or two, but no hay to blow around. No snow here yet either, but it'll come soon enough. Im headed to OH next week, where they are still harvesting since the rain pushed it all back.

I second the motion for installing a second door for a pull-through in the 2049 shop, but that loss of wallspace will cost you too. Definitely need to sort your priorities on that one. Dad's shop has a similar setup, but in 45'x45' size, and its not practical for modern farm equipment. Door is too small, building too short, and the office/overhead room is too close to the door so wide or awkward machines cant pull in perfectly straight. The space behind the room becomes a catch-all since a 2post lift and the office "surround" it kinda. A better machining/fabrication layout would fix that I think. Im only mentioning this to give you things to think about in all that idle time I know you don't have.

 

[jeepxj]

Square yards would be amazing. 104'x180' would be an amazing thing !!

That guy Kyle has had in influence in this building already. House wrap on 100% plus 2' into the attic, wet set brackets poured into drilled holes, the way he puts the plastic down to the floor under the tin and a bunch of other things that I like will be in the shop for sure. He's entertaining and has easy to watch videos.

Great minds think alike about the loft. It might all get built at the same time money depending. I'm not 100% sure what I want to do for ceiling height and walls and stuff in that half so it'll probably wait for a bit until I get that figured out.

on the loft: maybe set the rim joists into the wall so you can readily add when its time.

thats easy. 20' wall height. so you can unfold a combine hopper in the shop.

 

[Sifan]

Another thought, local farmer has three bin rings that he sets up inside his machine shed, fills it during harvest and hauls it to river terminal after harvest. Dismantles and stacks rings, puts machinery in. They say he buys three rings a year and every 4 years puts up a new bin.

 

[jblnut]

Can't blame a deere for being thirsty when all the water is frozen.

Ok well I've read this a few times over the last few days and I have no idea where you're going with that. If the purpose was to make me think for a while you've accomplished that !!

Staying busy in the cold as expected, I see. My (now heated) garage has been full of paint fumes as well this last week or two, but no hay to blow around. No snow here yet either, but it'll come soon enough. Im headed to OH next week, where they are still harvesting since the rain pushed it all back.

I second the motion for installing a second door for a pull-through in the 2049 shop, but that loss of wallspace will cost you too. Definitely need to sort your priorities on that one. Dad's shop has a similar setup, but in 45'x45' size, and it's not practical for modern farm equipment. Door is too small, building too short, and the office/overhead room is too close to the door so wide or awkward machines cant pull in perfectly straight. The space behind the room becomes a catch-all since a 2 post lift and the office "surround" it kinda. A better machining/fabrication layout would fix that I think. I'm only mentioning this to give you things to think about in all that idle time I know you don't have.

Yeah I don't think the other door is going to happen. The loss of wallspace plus the hope to add another 32' on one day as cold storage makes it less desirable.

Here is the proposed work space use areas. For the most part it'll be this way, or that's the idea.

on the loft: maybe set the rim joists into the wall so you can readily add when its time.

thats easy. 20' wall height. so you can unfold a combine hopper in the shop.

The rim joists in the wall idea is an awesome idea. We'll definitely do that. Walls will be 18' as going to 20 will be quite spendy and blah blah blah want to but probably won't. The combine currently fits in a 14' door so having a 16' door will already open up a ton of options.

Another thought, local farmer has three bin rings that he sets up inside his machine shed, fills it during harvest and hauls it to river terminal after harvest. Dismantles and stacks rings, puts machinery in. They say he buys three rings a year and every 4 years puts up a new bin.

We have a 42' ring that was used for that same thing in a machine shed a few times. I do not see using the new shop for grain storage but it's not a bad idea.

 

[woodfor1]

Thank you for sharing your time with use. When you build the new shop will you put radiant heat in the floor? If so what fuel would you use to heat it wood or propane?

 

[jeepxj]

The rim joists in the wall idea is an awesome idea. We'll definitely do that. Walls will be 18' as going to 20 will be quite spendy and blah blah blah want to but probably won't. The combine currently fits in a 14' door so having a 16' door will already open up a ton of options.

We have a 42' ring that was used for that same thing in a machine shed a few times. I do not see using the new shop for grain storage but it's not a bad idea.

2' concrete stem walls is way of keeping building cost down.

I really like the chair rail setup RR does on the outside. really makes it nice.

Don't forget a good deep porch for hanging out on outside the shop like we all end up doing when its nice out.

Concrete parking pad for the pickup is also nice nice but can be added later


Also a terrible channel to watch if you're in the planning phase:

I saw one had 2 of the big forklift size totes for their oil and hydro fluid. they had a place they could fork them up into the loft and let gravity force it down the hoses into a nozzle in the oil air. No more pumping.

 

[jblnut]

Thank you for sharing your time with use. When you build the new shop will you put radiant heat in the floor? If so what fuel would you use to heat it wood or propane?

If you've ever laid on a heated floor before you know that is the only way to go. It is also the most expensive way to heat but it is what it is. At first it'll be propane but I haven't totally ruled out an outdoor boiler in the future to heat the shop, pump house, house and skid loader shed.

2' concrete stem walls is way of keeping building cost down.

I really like the chair rail setup RR does on the outside. really makes it nice.

Don't forget a good deep porch for hanging out on outside the shop like we all end up doing when its nice out.

Concrete parking pad for the pickup is also nice nice but can be added later


Also a terrible channel to watch if you're in the planning phase:

I saw one had 2 of the big forklift size totes for their oil and hydro fluid. they had a place they could fork them up into the loft and let gravity force it down the hoses into a nozzle in the oil air. No more pumping.

Good deep porch can/will be added in the future for sure. There will be some sort of concrete apron in front of the shop. It'll be needed to control the water flow around the front to a degree.

Yeah .... I've watched all the videos on the Successful Farming channel and have gathered a bunch of ideas out of it. Lots of ways to spend money on that channel !!!

 

[Redwolf947]

Merry Christmas Mike, And a Happy New Year!!

 

[jeepxj]

wood boiler ya say? thats my ideal goal at well.

This is a genius way of storing wood for such a thing IMO:

 

[Jayman17]

Merry Christmas and thank you for keeping this thread updated. This city boy is learning some things about the farming life. I really enjoy it and your sense of humor.

Jay

 

[jblnut]

Merry Christmas Mike, And a Happy New Year!!

Thank you !! Hopefully this year brings us all closer to our families and deeper in debt with our shops lol.

wood boiler ya say? thats my ideal goal at well.

This is a genius way of storing wood for such a thing IMO:

It'd probably be an outdoor corn stove actually. We have lots of corn around here and most times the math works so it's cheaper to burn it than propane. One bushel of corn contains 392,000btu's of energy which is roughly the equivalent of 4.26gal of propane. Today a bushel of corn is worth $3.50 so a gallon of propane needs to be $0.82/gal for it to cheaper to heat with propane. The cost of the heating equipment itself needs to be taken into account as well which is a little harder to do but not that much harder. If that corn $10,000 stove lasts 10yrs (maybe I have no idea) it'll be right at $1,000/yr cost for equipment plus whatever pex I put from the boiler to the shop/house. I'm intrueged by it but not buying anything yet. The shop will be fired up with a regular propane boiler at first (or a Polaris boiler perhaps, I've heard they're pretty decent)

Merry Christmas and thank you for keeping this thread updated. This city boy is learning some things about the farming life. I really enjoy it and your sense of humor.

Jay

I have lots of free time so I cannot help but to update the thread every chance I get

Bring that up here and we'll have a few together sometime

 

[jblnut]

We picked up some more calves from the neighbor and I always get a kick out of the way he does a few things. He use 2cyl Diesel Deere 830 circa 1960 on his TMR to feed the cattle. It's got a 7.7l 2 cylinder engine !! It sounds fantastic when it gets under a decent load. He uses it because it runs cheap and isn't worth much, besides, why on earth would you put a new tractor worth $150,000 on something like a TMR when any old piece of iron will work ?? I couldn't agree more.


I opened the door on the cattle trailer and they were quite excited to get into their new home


We ran then through the chute to get them weighed so we can pay the neighbor for them. I know I've said it before but I absolutely LOVE this setup. If it's okay to grumble a little it would be really nice to put it in a building with a concrete floor and a roof. Maybe one day. Maybe this year ?? Who know what the year will bring. Hopefully a shop and maybe a tile plow so who knows when this project will happen.


As long as we had the scale setup we decided to run some big ones through to see if they're ready to sell. Looks like they are after they all went through. Sweet.


The little people squad was out in full force to help. Lily and Leo were all over watching and being right in the action and Miss Alyssa wanted to play with snowballs and go sledding. We all had fun

 

[Sifan]

Not familiar with your herd, what do you feed out to? We had some Charolais Simmental crosses that topped 2000 lbs. You didn't want to get caught between the fence/wall with those big boys I spent half of one summer rebuilding all the fence at the feed lot. They put more pressure on the fence than the Herford Angus. Steaks filled out the plate nicely Merry Christmas to you and yours!

 

[realvc]

Merry Christmas to you and your beautiful family.



Vince

 

[jeepxj]

It'd probably be an outdoor corn stove actually. We have lots of corn around here and most times the math works so it's cheaper to burn it than propane. One bushel of corn contains 392,000btu's of energy which is roughly the equivalent of 4.26gal of propane. Today a bushel of corn is worth $3.50 so a gallon of propane needs to be $0.82/gal for it to cheaper to heat with propane. The cost of the heating equipment itself needs to be taken into account as well which is a little harder to do but not that much harder. If that corn $10,000 stove lasts 10yrs (maybe I have no idea) it'll be right at $1,000/yr cost for equipment plus whatever pex I put from the boiler to the shop/house. I'm intrueged by it but not buying anything yet. The shop will be fired up with a regular propane boiler at first (or a Polaris boiler perhaps, I've heard they're pretty decent)

if only you had a place with some corn.

 

[jblnut]

Not familiar with your herd, what do you feed out to? We had some Charolais Simmental crosses that topped 2000 lbs. You didn't want to get caught between the fence/wall with those big boys I spent half of one summer rebuilding all the fence at the feed lot. They put more pressure on the fence than the Hereford Angus. Steaks filled out the plate nicely Merry Christmas to you and yours!

We shoot for less than 1,000lbs hanging weight at the packer so around 1,550 live weight when they leave the farm. 2,000lb animals are MONSTERS !!!

There is nothing quite like having 4 Porterhouse steaks 1-1/4" thick FILLING up a grill end to end.

Merry Christmas to you and your beautiful family.

Vince

Thanks Vince for the wishes and compliments

The girls kept talking about how excited they were for Santa to bring them presents all day so just before bed Mama Bear and I told them it's good to be excited but to remember what Christmas is all about. Miss Lily said "Baby Jesus was our first gift. Can you imagine how happy his Mom and Dad must have been because he was born on Christmas !! That worked out well !!" Lol. Goofy kid.

if only you had a place with some corn.

Oh yeah I'd put a hopper bin next to it with a auto fill sensor and fill it up in the fall and shut it down in the spring. Probably could even feed what's left to the steers just to get the hopper empty.

Merry Christmas everyone

Merry Christmas to you as well

 

[jblnut]

Hey look at that !! An "Official" set of plans from the local lumber yard for the 2049 Shop

This may mean something to someone one day so here it is. I've thought for a while about being transparent about the cost of this shop and I think I will pass on whatever it costs publically if anyone is interested. As a carrot in front of the horse here is the info about the trusses. The numbers on the left and middle don't mean much to me, it's the ones on the right that seem more important

 

[Sifan]

Living where you live, the snow load column is the most important column, that's a lot of roof to clean off!

 

[Farmall450]

Merry Christmas!

I can't imagine listening to that 2 cylinder hammer away once a week or even every morning lol. Nice once in a while though. It was amazing how long JD stuck with 2 holes.

 

[BORING HOP YARD]

I cant wait to see you in the new building.
Have a very marry Christmas.

 

[sublime68charger]

I'd love to hear that 830 on the mixer lug down!

 

[jblnut]

Living where you live, the snow load column is the most important column, that's a lot of roof to clean off!

42lb snow load I believe. Plus 5 for ceiling stuff ... tin, air lines, lights etc. Should be plenty good.

Merry Christmas!

I can't imagine listening to that 2 cylinder hammer away once a week or even every morning lol. Nice once in a while though. It was amazing how long JD stuck with 2 holes.

He spends 3hrs a day on it
They've got a mix of older 2cyl stuff they use daily as well as brand new JD stuff for other stuff like planting and tillage. Literally both ends of the spectrum out there !!

I can't wait to see you in the new building.
Have a very Merry Christmas.

Oh buddy I can't wait either !!!

I'd love to hear that 830 on the mixer lug down!

It puffs and smokes and thumbs away like a champ. It's a really sweeeeeeeeet sound !!!

 

[jblnut]

Merry Christmas to me

8' snow bucket. Kinda makes the skiddy look small !!!

 

[Sifan]

Makes my craftsman with a 42" blade look small LOL

John Deere green with envy

 

[jblnut]

Makes my craftsman with a 42" blade look small LOL

John Deere green with envy

It's not the size of the tool that matters, it's how you use it.

 

[jeepxj]

It's not the size of the tool that matters, it's how you use it.

thats what they all say until you start being efficient. The uncle got presumably angry at all the time he was spending pushing drifts with a bucket.

 

[jblnut]

thats what they all say until you start being efficient. The uncle got presumably angry at all the time he was spending pushing drifts with a bucket.

A WIDE snowpusher seems like something that would be useful as well but I went with a big bucket so I can use it in the chicken barn to clean out poooooop as well as to load that poooooop into a manure spreader in a much more rapid manner than the little bucket I use now.

The Bobcat skid loader snowblower is in Dad's shop warming up. I think it'll be used out here Monday sometime. We shall see how much snow we get by then.

 

[jblnut]

Gotta get him all trained in on a workbench so he knows what to do when the new shop is up and useable


This may not look like much to anyone but me but those shiny chains are holding up a piece of 1" sucker rod. I was using baling twine to do the same job as a proof of concept and the calves kept eating the twine. SOOOOO 4 months later I finally got around to chaining them on. Fantastic


It bonks on the back of their heads and keeps the little calves from climbing out under the feed rail. Simple and effective.


Then it was off to mix a couple loads of feed in the snow .... then rain .... then snow ..... then sleet .... then snow ..... then rain .... it was a mess ....


The roads are going to be a skating rink when it freezes tonight !!!

 

[jeepxj]

A WIDE snowpusher seems like something that would be useful as well but I went with a big bucket so I can use it in the chicken barn to clean out poooooop as well as to load that poooooop into a manure spreader in a much more rapid manner than the little bucket I use now.

The Bobcat skid loader snowblower is in Dad's shop warming up. I think it'll be used out here Monday sometime. We shall see how much snow we get by then.

double duty always wins.