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doubleot

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Well I finally got around to insulating my garage door yesterday and I'm hoping it makes a difference with winter seemingly coming in this weekend.

I'm now wondering what everyone would recommend for the outside seal on the edge? I can see light come through on a sunny day and I've seen people use seals around the edge I just want something that will last.

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If you have visible air gaps at the edges, it is going to be quite drafty in there. Pretty much all of these seals are the same, the devil is in the installation and making sure they are tight, tight, tight to the door. Watch YouTube videos for some good tips. FWIW, I treat all the seals around my garage doors like any of the exterior door seals around my house, they get replaced every other year like clockwork. I never have spiders or other insects in my garage and all the neighbors' wives complain constantly of big, hairy spiders terrorizing them in the garage. The seals just don't stay flexible and "plumped" up much beyond that.
As an aside, that looks more like radiant barrier on your door than insulation, can't quite tell. Not really the same thing.
 
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Another member had good luck with these: https://www.devancocanada.com/product/CF-101-14

here is their thread:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414538

Also, might help if we had a picture of the outside of your door, especially near the edge so we can see the trim you have. In addition a closer pict from the inside door edge where you are seeing the light.
I'll post some of the outside when I get home tonight, I figured it'll be like any other rubber seal but I'm ready to at least try and get some coverage around that edge.

As for the material I used

https://www.homedepot.com/s/r-tech+foam+board+insulation?NCNI-5

It's very tight up against the slots in my garage door I used 1 1/2 inch thick board. My brother did the same on his garage door and it made a significant difference in his garage hoping for similar results as well.

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doubleot

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If you have visible air gaps at the edges, it is going to be quite drafty in there. Pretty much all of these seals are the same, the devil is in the installation and making sure they are tight, tight, tight to the door. Watch YouTube videos for some good tips. FWIW, I treat all the seals around my garage doors like any of the exterior door seals around my house, they get replaced every other year like clockwork. I never have spiders or other insects in my garage and all the neighbors' wives complain constantly of big, hairy spiders terrorizing them in the garage. The seals just don't stay flexible and "plumped" up much beyond that.
As an aside, that looks more like radiant barrier on your door than insulation, can't quite tell. Not really the same thing.
See above post.

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Another member had good luck with these: https://www.devancocanada.com/product/CF-101-14

here is their thread:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414538

Also, might help if we had a picture of the outside of your door, especially near the edge so we can see the trim you have. In addition a closer pict from the inside door edge where you are seeing the light.

The DEvanco ones are sweet....but not available in the US.

Unless you want to pay big for shipping.

I think my next attempt is going to be the brush style from McMaster Carr, at least the mount is aluminum. The vinyl base on mine is what warps.
 

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I used PVC stop molding for the sides. The top didn't need it. It's been good for probably 20 years.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Royal-M...e-Door-Stop-Moulding-RY320-ZM192CRY/207001397

Tommy

This is what I have on the sides and top of my two garage doors, as well as what is on the two garage doors at my dads house.

They work great keeping out the drafts and wind because of the flap that comes in contact with garage door.

I even put one across the bottom edge of my garage doors, on the inside of the doors, so that the flap comes in contact with the ground. I was having issues with the rubber gasket on the bottom of the doors sealing and keeping out wind and wind driven water.

Jim
 

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Doesn't it seem like there should be better garage door sealing technology by now?

My old garage was built in 55', my new building built in 12', same door track and seal design.

How about an electromagnet? Like a fridge or steel door, but on and off-able? lol!
 
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When I replaced my door about 15 years ago I just got the typical seals from Home Depot for the sides and top. They work great and are pretty much air tight. Have been up there for 15 years and the door opens at least twice a day every day of the year.
 

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When I replaced my door about 15 years ago I just got the typical seals from Home Depot for the sides and top. They work great and are pretty much air tight. Have been up there for 15 years and the door opens at least twice a day every day of the year.
How do you attach those?

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They just nail in to the door 'frame"

I used the same seals. IIRC, they were about $7 a stick. To be fair though, my garage is not heated, but they do a decent job of keeping blowing snow, leaves and drafts out, all of which were a problem before I installed them.

I'd suggest using screws. In particular, get ones with white flat heads, and they'll hardly be noticeable.
 
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I used the same seals. IIRC, they were about $7 a stick. To be fair though, my garage is not heated, but they do a decent job of keeping blowing snow, leaves and drafts out, all of which were a problem before I installed them.



I'd suggest using screws. In particular, get ones with white flat heads, and they'll hardly be noticeable.
Awesome I'll be getting some this weekend and installing.

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^^^ Those are the same ones I posted about. I only have them on the sides, too, The top is tight. Mine are old and have never had a problem.

Tommy
 

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When I replaced my door about 15 years ago I just got the typical seals from Home Depot for the sides and top. They work great and are pretty much air tight. Have been up there for 15 years and the door opens at least twice a day every day of the year.

I have been using that style seal for years, one thing is the parts you buy at a big box store are inferior to the like product available from a garage door installation business. I always spend the few bucks more and buy the better seal. Most installers use roofing nails to hold the seal, I prefer to drill the flange then countersink the hole before using a stainless steel Philips head oval sheet metal screw. The seal should be “preloaded” against the door slightly so that it retains a tight seal against the door panel.
 

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... I prefer to drill the flange then countersink the hole before using a stainless steel Philips head oval sheet metal screw. The seal should be “preloaded” against the door slightly so that it retains a tight seal against the door panel.

Another option would be a trim head stainless screw like this:
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The head is so small that it's not worth countersinking it in the foam based material. Just drive it flush.

As for the pre-load: yes, exactly. Roll the door down, hold the seal up so that it makes contact all over, and screw it in place.
 

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one thing is the parts you buy at a big box store are inferior to the like product available from a garage door installation business

I don't buy that unless things have changed since I did mine. They have been up there 15 years and still look almost new. I also think that screws are overkill. I used a 1 inch long white aluminum nail and they have stayed there no problem. Here is a couple of pics I took this evening when I got home:
 

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