P&C Stuff

[gregaz]

Rescued this wrench from perish. Would love to know how old it is!

 

[Rileysan]

Smokeshow, Your ratchet is from the mid 1930's, you can find it in the Woodbury catalog from 1936. They made it in both 3/8" and 1/2".
Riley, The early tools you found are a valve adjusting set. You're missing the special screwdriver and a few sockets, same as I am. You can find it in the 1932 catalog on page 9. Interestingly, in the 1932 catalog they used names for the tools, your wrench is a "BONE" and the sockets are "Booby" "Bonus" "Bust" and "****". That was a cool labeling system. I give credit to Mr.X for identifying my set when I first found it.

Thank you for the great information but where have you been?!? 29 posts in 5 1/2 years? We could use more guys like you in this thread!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Rescued this wrench from perish. Would love to know how old it is!

I found a 15" version of that this weekend and they are great wrenches... I believe the red inset handles are older than the blue inset ones... It is hard to tell which color yours is ?


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[gregaz]

I found a 15" version of that this weekend and they are great wrenches... I believe the red inset handles are older than the blue inset ones... It is hard to tell which color yours is ?


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Mine was brown/red all over.
What you see is post-cleanup.

 

[Mooreag47]

Got a few today

 

[Mooreag47]

wth only two pics at a time

 

[Smokeshow69]

wth only two pics at a time

More pics of the carry tray please ! Also is that a 1/4 drive box in the prior photo?


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[Mooreag47]

No it's a side shot of the Carry tray

 

[Rileysan]

I saw this picture in a CL ad for an estate sale last night and as a result, I could barely sleep!




So I was up bright an early this morning and made my way across town to the estate sale. I arrived at 8:15 thinking I'd be plenty early (the sale opened at 10). Sure enough - there's only one person there! We start chatting and shortly thereafter, a third person shows up. Except he doesn't say anything, he finds the clipboard sitting on top a shrub off to the side and signs his name. Oh ****!

So I quickly walk over and the other guy hands off the clipboard to me. I'm #26. Say WTF?!? Where the hell is everyone? This is what I hate about estate sales!#@%$!$!@#!%^!

I have a pleasant conversation with a very pretty woman and the time passed quickly. The sales people announce they can only take 20 at a time. !#%!#%*)!#)%!&%!@)_$#!

He reads off the list and as he does, he starts counting the number of people who are not present. 8 out of the first 20 aren't there ... so I'm in!

I found the box, ripped off the price tag and am the first person in line to pay. $58. F*ck yeah!

After moving the box outside, I went back to the garage and spent another hour there.

I present to you - my Unicorn!



A Pressteel made, P&C rolling tool box. Smokeshow was kind enough to point out the Plomb emblems on either side of the P&C logo, so this probably dates post war, up to 1948.

I will post more pictures after I get help unloading it from the car later this afternoon.

Brian

 

[Username already in use]

Good god man... so green with envy right now. Great score!

 

[Mooreag47]

Super nice box rileysan

 

[r_olson_06]

Wow I am about ready to move PNW I swear. Very nice box and a good price.

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[Private Lugnutz]

Smokeshow was kind enough to point out the Plomb emblems on either side of the P&C logo, so this probably dates post war, up to 1948.

There's a nice figure of what sure looks like your roller, called a "Toolmobile", No. 9969-1, on page 9 of the 1948 P&C catalog. And the blue theme in that catalog seems to be match the color, too.

Nice grab.

 

[RagTopTA]

I saw this picture in a CL ad for an estate sale last night and as a result, I could barely sleep!




So I was up bright an early this morning and made my way across town to the estate sale. I arrived at 8:15 thinking I'd be plenty early (the sale opened at 10). Sure enough - there's only one person there! We start chatting and shortly thereafter, a third person shows up. Except he doesn't say anything, he finds the clipboard sitting on top a shrub off to the side and signs his name. Oh ****!

So I quickly walk over and the other guy hands off the clipboard to me. I'm #26. Say WTF?!? Where the hell is everyone? This is what I hate about estate sales!#@%$!$!@#!%^!

I have a pleasant conversation with a very pretty woman and the time passed quickly. The sales people announce they can only take 20 at a time. !#%!#%*)!#)%!&%!@)_$#!

He reads off the list and as he does, he starts counting the number of people who are not present. 8 out of the first 20 aren't there ... so I'm in!

I found the box, ripped off the price tag and am the first person in line to pay. $58. F*ck yeah!

After moving the box outside, I went back to the garage and spent another hour there.

I present to you - my Unicorn!



A Pressteel made, P&C rolling tool box. Smokeshow was kind enough to point out the Plomb emblems on either side of the P&C logo, so this probably dates post war, up to 1948.

I will post more pictures after I get help unloading it from the car later this afternoon.

Brian

that's a huge YOU ****!! way to go... again! You are the unicorn magnet!

 

[jabberwoki]

YES SIR................dunno what else to say mate.

 

[Rileysan]

There's a nice figure of what sure looks like your roller, called a "Toolmobile", No. 9969-1, on page 9 of the 1948 P&C catalog. And the blue theme in that catalog seems to be match the color, too.

Nice grab.

You probably know this already, but this is an exact copy of the Plomb Toolmobile, which was also made by Pressteel. Here's a picture of my (previously owned) Plomb Toolmobile which found a new home recently. I'll let the new owner comment on that ...

Brian

 

[Smokeshow69]

There's a nice figure of what sure looks like your roller, called a "Toolmobile", No. 9969-1, on page 9 of the 1948 P&C catalog. And the blue theme in that catalog seems to be match the color, too.



Nice grab.

Yes Brian really ***** [emoji23] I thought it was interesting how they combined the 2 logos on that box. I was very disappointed I did not get the box but that would have put me up to 5 pressteel rollers so I suppose I should let him have the p&c toolmobile !


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[ddawg16]

I have never heard of P&C

 

[Smokeshow69]

You probably know this already, but this is an exact copy of the Plomb Toolmobile, which was also made by Pressteel. Here's a picture of my (previously owned) Plomb Toolmobile which found a new home recently. I'll let the new owner comment on that ...



Brian

Wait, do you mean this toolmobile? The one that ended up in my garage ?[emoji23] I saw Brian's generous offer in the plomb thread about helping members procure a tool mobile and took him up on it! He even drove it to my house [emoji108] he and reached a mutually beneficial trade and we both came out ahead on the deal ! Here it is with my green roller! Both have yet to be cleaned of waxed but their time is soon!
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[Smokeshow69]

I have never heard of P&C

Good it means more of the good stuff for us [emoji23] just kidding. Cliff notes is that they were a tool company based out of Portland (Milwaukee) Oregon and were bought by the Pendleton tool company , which was the parent tool company of plomb tools... They made great tools, often time physically identical to plomb aside from slight finish differences or different part numbers!


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[Rileysan]

Good it means more of the good stuff for us [emoji23] just kidding. Cliff notes is that they were a tool company based out of Portland (Milwaukee) Oregon and were bought by the Pendleton tool company , which was the parent tool company of plomb tools... They made great tools, often time physically identical to plomb aside from slight finish differences or different part numbers!


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Sorry about being the grammar police. That was MilwaukIE, Oregon

Brian

 

[Smokeshow69]

Sorry about being the grammar police. That was MilwaukIE, Oregon



Brian

Stupid auto correct [emoji36] yes Brian is right it is Milwaukie not the other tool brand city[emoji23] anyways as promised here are the 11 pieces I bought at the swap meet here in Portland... There was more there but I only bought ones I needed. I got
18" pipe wrench-$3
Combos
1-1/4
15/16
13/16x2 (on accident)
Cool old ratchet from the 30's
72- modified line up bar [emoji36]
Doe 7/8-3/4
Doe 1/2-7-16
Doe 7/16-3/8
Offset dbe 11/16-5/8
My favorite is the ratchet! I have never seen one before and only paid $4 and it is in fantastic shape with only slight wear!





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[Private Lugnutz]

You probably know this already, but this is an exact copy of the Plomb Toolmobile, which was also made by Pressteel.

Doh! Honestly, I'm not a big roller guy, and no, I wasn't thinking about it, but I guess it should've been expected seven years after acquisition. Thanks. I suppose a P&C purist would prefer the No. 9390-B Deluxe Tool Wagon and Cabinet Workbench from page 12 of the 1939 catalog! Find one of those at an estate sale and you'll get the bow-down emoji! (C'mon, you need a new challenge!)

I thought it was interesting how they combined the 2 logos on that box.

Agreed. Very cool! It's the signature feature of that cart.

bought by the Pendleton tool company , which was the parent tool company of plomb tools... They made great tools, often time physically identical to plomb aside from slight finish differences or different part numbers!

Not to pick nits, but they were bought by Plomb. Pendleton didn't exist until 1957. And just so ddawg16 has the full history, while their tools became less and less distinctive after the Plomb acquisition in 1941, we should make sure he knows that they were making their own designs since 1920 prior to that, and even after that, especially throughout the war.

EDIT: I'm waiting to see which one of you guys comes home with the first pre-Plomb tool cart! The back yard scavenger hunt is officially on!

 

[Rileysan]

Doh! Honestly, I'm not a big roller guy, and no, I wasn't thinking about it, but I guess it should've been expected seven years after acquisition. Thanks. I suppose a P&C purist would prefer the No. 9390-B Deluxe Tool Wagon and Cabinet Workbench from page 12 of the 1939 catalog! Find one of those at an estate sale and you'll get the bow-down emoji! (C'mon, you need a new challenge!)

EDIT: I'm waiting to see which one of you guys comes home with the first pre-Plomb tool cart! The back yard scavenger hunt is officially on!

If I were actually find one, I'm not sure how wise it would be to boast about it here. Too many of you know how to find me!

But then again, karma has treated me well. It wasn't but a few days after delivering my Plomb Toolmobile to Smokeshow, this popped up out of nowhere. It also worked out that I was told earlier in the week by my doctor that I wasn't ready to go back to work, post surgery, which allowed me the time to go wait in a line with the professional estate-salers and purchase it.

OK, back to the P&C Toolmobile.

I had my work cut out for me, today. Unfortunately, mice had nested inside the Toolmobile and this thing stank!



So I pulled out the drawers and started the inglorious job of wiping out mouse **** and scraping out the mangled nest material that was rusted to the bottom of one drawer as well as the bottom shelf. I gave everything a good wipe-down with a little WD-40 before my shoulder told me I was done.

Here are a few pictures.

PS - I also noticed that the top was re-painted. I know this because the paint ran down the inside of the cabinet and also into the top drawer. On a positive note, the P&C logos are in excellent shape and can remain untouched.

Brian

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Just beautiful. And I am really digging that blue. I don't think it's a coincidence that the 1948 catalog is blue.

 

[Rileysan]

Too bad the catalog photos aren't in color!

I find it interesting how the logo in the catalog does not contain the "Plomb-bob s" on either side of P&C like this one.

Brian

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I thought about that. Either earlier, later, or they just didn't get artistically rendered.

 

[Rileysan]

I thought about that. Either earlier, later, or they just didn't get artistically rendered. They're not in the same place on the box either right?

Like the logos on the Plomb Toolmobile I owned, they are painted on as opposed to being decals, but I can't rule out the possibility of them being repainted or even the possibility of it being a generic Pressteel roller that was repainted. If so, it was done a very long time ago.

For those curious about the 1939 P&C roller, here's a capture from the catalog.

Brian

 

[Smokeshow69]

If I were actually find one, I'm not sure how wise it would be to boast about it here. Too many of you know how to find me!



But then again, karma has treated me well. It wasn't but a few days after delivering my Plomb Toolmobile to Smokeshow, this popped up out of nowhere. It also worked out that I was told earlier in the week by my doctor that I wasn't ready to go back to work, post surgery, which allowed me the time to go wait in a line with the professional estate-salers and purchase it.



OK, back to the P&C Toolmobile.



I had my work cut out for me, today. Unfortunately, mice had nested inside the Toolmobile and this thing stank!







So I pulled out the drawers and started the inglorious job of wiping out mouse **** and scraping out the mangled nest material that was rusted to the bottom of one drawer as well as the bottom shelf. I gave everything a good wipe-down with a little WD-40 before my shoulder told me I was done.



Here are a few pictures.



PS - I also noticed that the top was re-painted. I know this because the paint ran down the inside of the cabinet and also into the top drawer. On a positive note, the P&C logos are in excellent shape and can remain untouched.



Brian

Man that thing is sweet! I was gonna ask if it has the side vents and now I know! Can't wait to see it cleaned up and waxed! Now I need to find one of those as well ![emoji23]


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[Provincial]

Side vents? You mean the mouse portals?

 

[gregaz]

Brian - thank you for letting us live vicariously through your find.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Side vents? You mean the mouse portals?

Gross [emoji38] but a seriously cool box at the same time! It is literally the same as a tool mobile aside from the paint color ! Brian, did it come with a key ?


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[Rileysan]

Gross [emoji38] but a seriously cool box at the same time! It is literally the same as a tool mobile aside from the paint color ! Brian, did it come with a key ?


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Negative. However, I went back today (half price day) and found a table indoors with rings and rings of keys. I picked up 3 rings consisting of about 50 keys total and bought them all in the hopes of finding the right key. I'll keep you posted.

Oh, and I found a lot more cool stuff to boot. It was another good morning

Brian

 

[gregaz]

Found this chisel this weekend. $1.
Now I just gotta sharpen it.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I thought this was mastercraft, now I've no idea.

 

[r_olson_06]

I thought this was mastercraft, now I've no idea.

I think it's unmarked Penens Corp.

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[Provincial]

Found this chisel this weekend. $1.
Now I just gotta sharpen it.

And grind the mushroom from the head from the hammer blows. Chunks fly off if you don't. I had a co-worker who almost lost an eye from this!

 

[gregaz]

And grind the mushroom from the head from the hammer blows. Chunks fly off if you don't. I had a co-worker who almost lost an eye from this!

The sharpening video I watched said the same thing. However - that "mushroom" looks factory - not as a result of hitting. Thoughts?

 

[Provincial]

As long as the very end of the head has a small bevel you should be OK. Dangerous swelling has a sharp edge peened out bigger than the original head.

 

[gregaz]

As long as the very end of the head has a small bevel you should be OK. Dangerous swelling has a sharp edge peened out bigger than the original head.

Thank you. I will grind off a bit, but it looks original to me at this point.