pawn shop altercations

[mtkst19]

i was at the pawn today where i picked up a steelman 6 position chassis ear and 6 pair of used usa made vise grips that are the bodyman/sheetmetal style. the big "u" clamps w. swivel pads. paid 95 for it all so i was happy. not something i would consider post worthy on here like a you **** deal or anything. but the next part was a 1st for me and thought i'd share.

also at the pawn was not 1 but two irate mothers demanding their rings back because their junky sons pawned them the night before. The clerk politely told them that they were being sold for x amount of money and that they would return them for the actual paid cost provided charges are pressed to show it was a stolen good and not a sellers remorse deal. the mothers didn't want to press charges but wanted the rings back.

My take is they are f'd. if i were the pawn shop i wouldn't give it up unless they came in proving it was stolen. How do u prove it is stolen--go to the police. As it is, the kid signed a form saying it was "his" to sale, so he would be on the hook for selling stolen property. the one lady couldn't comprehend what she needed to do and was getting irate and flipping out on the hourly employee.

I generally keep to myself in public--yet if i see something wrong, or someone in need of help, i generally try to do something. I'm not one of those turn the other way people and confrontation does not put me off. This i felt was one of those instances as the employee was getting verbally abused from the mothers all the while they didn't do **** to the person who really caused the problem--their dead beat sons. the worthless pill heads were with each mother and had their hoodies up over their heads and eyes to the floor the entire time.


after 5 minutes of hearing these ladies act like trash and get louder and louder I suggested they go to the police station that was down the road and get this resolved in a civil fashion. Needless to say, they didn't like a stranger telling them what to do. But they did get the hell out of the store.

seriously though-- no one goes to a pawn shop to sale goods because they pay great prices. the pawn is there to make money off your unfortunate situation. Do people not realize this?

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Worthless people do worthless things. See it all the time, unfortunately.

 

[mkirkpatrick]

What the mother's need to do is press charges, kids get thrown in jail and figure out that what they do has consequences, the mother's are enabling their well brought of son's to be the way they are.

 

[porphyre]

Please use the correct form of a word. SALE is a noun, SELL is a verb.

 

[Joe B.]

I think pawn shops see that kind of thing every day.

 

[Roots]

It sounds like those mothers' apparent lack of parenting is fully revealing itself.

I'd have to side with the pawn shop, without a police report, tough luck in that situation.

 

[Daddy_Rabbit]

Please use the correct form of a word. SALE is a noun, SELL is a verb.

wow ... I didn't see jack schitt about proper grammar or spelling being required in the rules of this website ...

 

[mtkst19]

Please use the correct form of a word. SALE is a noun, SELL is a verb.

duly noted. noticed it after the fact but let it roll.

 

[jay50]

You better be careful and mind your own business in those pawn shops; one of those crack whores may decide to stick a blade in your belly.

 

[trout]

sounds more like the mother's were in on it.
child sells the ring, mother says it's stolen and wants it back, they split the money. their plan probably just didn't work out like they had hoped.

 

[ToyMeKaNeK]

I think pawn shops see that kind of thing every day.

Exactly! Go in there, get your great deal, go back to the real civilized world you were brought up in and let these low life's live their lives.

 

[american lockpicker]

seriously though-- no one goes to a pawn shop to sale goods because they pay great prices.

Theres one in my county that pays close to store prices(90% of retail or so) for quality goods. Also they take tools in exchange for firearms.

 

[Roots]

sounds more like the mother's were in on it.
child sells the ring, mother says it's stolen and wants it back, they split the money. their plan probably just didn't work out like they had hoped.

I'd be really amazed if every pawn shop doesn't have a standard policy to require a police report and charges pressed, because when they return merchandise that was stolen, they're out everything they paid.

Of course, there's a fair chance, that these people aren't thinking or planning things out.

 

[Chadro]

I want to live around you guys. All of our pawn shops around here sell beat up guitars, VHS tapes and maybe some drills that probably don't work right. I don't even bother going to them.

 

[mtkst19]

Theres one in my county that pays close to store prices(90% of retail or so) for quality goods. Also they take tools in exchange for firearms.

damn, thats a good deal if you are a seller. i dont see how they make money though reselling it.

the area im in is not really a crack head area. there is though a bunch of young adults and teens who are giant pill heads. they do any/everything for pills. in this instance--pawn their family jewels. it is like everyone is blind to it too! no one wants to call out the problem in this area w/ the pill heads. As the majority of the pill heads are from well to do or normal middle class families. so eveyone acts like it dont happen.

 

[Toolhorder]

You better be careful and mind your own business in those pawn shops; one of those crack whores may decide to stick a blade in your belly.

I'd love it that was attempted on me. "Greet what comes in, ****** it out"

 

[ZRX61]

Did they know each other?

 

[Dmaxman]

I want to live around you guys. All of our pawn shops around here sell beat up guitars, VHS tapes and maybe some drills that probably don't work right. I don't even bother going to them.

LOL....we must be going to the same one. I never see quality tools in the places i have been. I have seen some beauty open face helmets

 

[PassnThru]

wow ... I didn't see jack schitt about proper grammar or spelling being required in the rules of this website ...

There also is no rule about picking the correct post to quote when you craft your reply.

 

[84bimmer]

I couldn't be a pawn guy. I'm not a slime ball. Yeah, I think MOST of them are. But, I understand why. When you have to deal with dipshit derelict scum bags all the time, it makes sense why they would be dicks. If I were a pawn guy though, I would never buy womens jewelry from some dope head looking kids. While there is a slight chance they obtained it legitimately, the possibility of theft is of a much greater reality. It could be a fun job, but I would lose money.

Oh yeah, screw them. Pay or call the police.

 

[honcho]

Pawn shops fill a very real financial need for people who don't have very many options. Like another respondent, I couldn't do it because most of them clearly take advantage of their clients in slimey, yet legal, ways.

I have a favorite pawn shop in Birmingham, Alabama where I have witnessed a great deal of sensitivity and compassion from the employees dealing with the people pawning items. They make clear how the pawn process works and often tell them how to get more for an item (like by bringing in all the accessories for a video camera or videogame system). I've seen them give more money to a guy who had pawned his guns but in the meantime been convicted of some crime (likely domestic abuse) and could no longer own a gun so instead of relinquishing his collateral the pawn shop gave him more money and turned it into a sale. Most shops give more money when outright buying something than when just accepting an item as collateral for a loan.

I asked one pawn shop owner why he had so many nail guns in his inventory and he said that when work slows down he takes them in and when it picks up they go back out the door--often with other stuff purchased by the tradesman for their girlfriends and kids.

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[jeffk14]

There also is no rule about picking the correct post to quote when you craft your reply.

Beat me to it!

 

[mrholeshot]

I couldn't be a pawn guy. I'm not a slime ball. Yeah, I think MOST of them are. But, I understand why. When you have to deal with dipshit derelict scum bags all the time, it makes sense why they would be dicks. If I were a pawn guy though, I would never buy womens jewelry from some dope head looking kids. While there is a slight chance they obtained it legitimately, the possibility of theft is of a much greater reality. It could be a fun job, but I would lose money.

Oh yeah, screw them. Pay or call the police.

Wow, I think you have a misconception of the average pawnbroker and person doing the pawning. I agree their are some pawn shops who are a bit underhanded and some customers that do the wrong thing but overall most people who pawn are in a desperate situation just trying to make it to the next week, next month or trying to put food on the table.

 

[TangoFoxTrot]

If the "kids" were under 18, than my understanding of the law is the Pawn Shop would have to give it back (but I'm pretty sure the Shop's entitled to the money they paid out). A minor can't enter into a legally enforceable contract. Car dealerships will NEVER buy or sell a car from someone who is under 18 for this reason. Of course, the Pawn Shop probably won't budge until the law actually forces them to give it back.

It sounds like trash parents with trash kids, but it also sounds like the Pawn Shop is a bit sleazy too taking something like female wedding rings from teenage hoodlums. A Pawn Shop is supposed to exercise some discretion about what they buy.

 

[bonneyman]

You better be careful and mind your own business in those pawn shops; one of those crack whores may decide to stick a blade in your belly.

Especially the "good deal" pawnies in the "not-so-good" neighborhoods.

 

[84bimmer]

Wow, I think you have a misconception of the average pawnbroker and person doing the pawning. I agree their are some pawn shops who are a bit underhanded and some customers that do the wrong thing but overall most people who pawn are in a desperate situation just trying to make it to the next week, next month or trying to put food on the table.

Yeah I know, it is hard to see the full picture of pawn shops when they are constantly plagued with endless bad dealings. Personally I find pawn shops worthless. There may be a time in my life where I may need one, hopefully not. But in this day and age, with resources like craigslist, I doubt I will ever need one, nor will many other reasonable people. It really seems like criminals and drug addicts keep these shops going. It's a shady business throughout. I'm not positive of this but, I would believe that in most cases with these unfortunate people you speak of, that they usually put themselves in those situations by making bad decisions, and usually should have early warning signs, giving them time to make better decisions in selling off their property.

I realize that I failed to see the pawn side of it, but lets admit it, a lot of **** that gets pawned can be easily replaced, jewelry being the major exception. So why not get upwards of 40% more for your junk by trying a little harder to sell it. Chances are if your that damn broke you have to pawn your valuables for 10-20% of their worth, you probably ain't going to be picking that **** back up.

I think if pawn shops disappeared, we would probably see a decline in crime and drug use. And without the existence of drugs, pawn shops would not exist either. That's just the general feeling I have about them, I may be wrong. In my distant past I had attempted several times to sell some items to pawn shops. I was never offered more than 10% of worth, so I would sell for more elsewhere. I would say that 90% of the pawn brokers that I have dealt with were slime balls.

 

[GrantCee]

I would say that 90% of the pawn brokers that I have dealt with were slime balls.

I can play this game too...90% of the auto mechanics I've ever dealt with were worthless, cheating hacks.

Get the point?

 

[84bimmer]

I can play this game too...90% of the auto mechanics I've ever dealt with were worthless, cheating hacks.

Get the point?

The point I was trying to illustrate in my posts was that to deal with dirtbags, sometimes you gotta be a dirtbag. Maybe you and I are just a couple of dirtbags? Lawyers come to mind also. You a lawyer too? People don't get these stereo types from nowhere.

 

[Major Ramifications]

Wait, you saw trashy people at a pawn shop??!! Well I never....

Seriously, the shop is required to hold the item for a period of time before they can sell it (in case it comes up as stolen).

 

[warmpancakes]

if it get reported stolen the pawn shop has to turn it over to the police its up to the DA to file charges or not