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Air21

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So my trusty Underwater Kinetics Pen Light finally died on me and I'm in the market for a replacement.

I'm a machinist, mostly working on very narrow hydraulic and pneumatic cylinders. The UK lights I've had (2 of the same model) seem to last about a year before the chemicals in the shop cause the plastic housing to fail so I'd like a metal replacement.

The 12 lumen brightness is plenty of light around all this ground and polished chrome, the foreman has this bajillion lumen outdoor flashlight that he pretends to inspect parts with but he has to hold them at arm's length and squint.

I really need a narrow easily pocketable light for fitting into parts sometimes.

My only other complaint about the UK light is that it very gradually dimmed out as the battery ran down, if at all possible I'd like something with a more obvious low battery condition.

What are your favorite pen lights that DON'T double as retina burning light sabers?
 
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A 2AAA penlight is definitely my most used tool at work. I keep several different ones in my toolchest (Streamlight ProTac, ThruNite Ti4, or Nextorch K3), but the one I keep in my pocket most by far is a Streamlight Protac. The other two are brighter, and even a little slimmer which I like, but they both have a more clumsy button to get used to. The Streamlight ProTac is just easy, plenty bright enough, and super dependable. I've even ran it through the washer and dryer more than once and it didn't faze it.
 

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What are your favorite pen lights that DON'T double as retina burning light sabers?

haha that is why I still use my incandescent Maglite , the new LED ones @270 lumens blast way too much light the single mode makes it unusable for close-up inspection duty.
Since then I bought Fenix light. look at their E05 with 3 modes I find the lowest setting @ 8 lumens is plenty. single AAA makes it tiny. Fenix really makes great all metal (pen ) flashlights. The anodized finish , electronics boost regulation, plus user interface is 2nd to none. Here is a link https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/e05-fenix-flashlight/ check out the reviews on YouTube and budgetlightforum
 
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stikman56

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So my trusty Underwater Kinetics Pen Light finally died on me and I'm in the market for a replacement.

I'm a machinist, mostly working on very narrow hydraulic and pneumatic cylinders. The UK lights I've had (2 of the same model) seem to last about a year before the chemicals in the shop cause the plastic housing to fail so I'd like a metal replacement.

The 12 lumen brightness is plenty of light around all this ground and polished chrome, the foreman has this bajillion lumen outdoor flashlight that he pretends to inspect parts with but he has to hold them at arm's length and squint.

I really need a narrow easily pocketable light for fitting into parts sometimes.

My only other complaint about the UK light is that it very gradually dimmed out as the battery ran down, if at all possible I'd like something with a more obvious low battery condition.

What are your favorite pen lights that DON'T double as retina burning light sabers?
I use the streamlight microstream and love it. It's in my pocket right now,always is at home and work.
 

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I thought that all U.K. lights had a life time warranty on them. I had a dive light that the switch went out on and sent it in and they replaced the whole light, instead of replacing just the switch. But my dive light was close to 100.00 and if your pen light is only a few bucks maybe they don't warranty the smaller ones?
 

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Just bought the "little Larry" light a Christmas time. Not a bad pocket pen light, has two modes of brightness plus a red flasher. Aluminum case 3 AAA size and magnetic end to stick on the wall. Not bad for 20 bucks . BCD
 
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*Full disclosure- I am a factory UK sales rep.

Air21: As blkSRT pointed out, UK recently released the Herculite line of the first truly chemical resistant flashlights, tested against some of the most often used industrial hazards seen by maintenance depts. The entire light is made of new resins- even the lenses and labels are chem resistant. Downside is we do not yet have the penlights added to the mix, just the 3C Gatorlite, Vizion Z3 headlamp, 4AAs and new updated 2AA.

The main reason your light dims as the batteries wear down whereas LEDs typically do not has to do with the nature of the element itself and the circuitry needed to drive the two different technologies. Moving into our LED penlights will more than double the lumens, and do away with the issues you speak of. http://uwk.com/products/uk2aaa-eled-penlight-i#.WHt0A9IzWUk

FWIW, I think UK is the only manufacturer that can still claim the entire line as USA Made, at least in the industrial and dive markets.


Richard- You are correct, but they have had to follow the "limited" part of the "limited lifetime warranty" at times, due to the some of the lights people would return that light failure was obviously due to intentional neglect and/or abuse, not materials or manufacturing. They do honor the warranty whenever possible (even for some instances I personally would not). They do have the option to repair the light where/when possible and more feasible. It is outlined in the warranty statement. They do their best to help customers- a point of pride to me, being as UK is still a rather small company compared to the better known/larger companies out there.
 
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Richard Cranium

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I have had uk dive lights for Years, got one when I first started diving. I expected Uk to just replace the switch, so I was pleased when hey replaced the entire light. I now own two of your dive lights. Richard D. Cranium
 

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I have the streamlight stylus pro, stays on my overalls pocket at all times, I use it a lot through out the day, been dropped in oil, snow, mud, onto rock and concrete floors from decent heights, exposed to -40, have had it just over a year and am really impressed with it, just the right amount of light output. Will buy another if this one dies
 
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I everyday carry is a streamlight stylus pro

I have abused this for over two years, and it's still fantastic. My dad and best friend also EDC the same.

It's Bright, it's light and it's tough. Only $19
 

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Air21

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Wow thanks everybody! Especially Kansei, I think I'll be going with the Fenix for the shop, I'll let you all know how it turns out.

One think I especially like with UK is the range of intrinsically safe flashlights, I have one in dayglow yellow for my hangar bag, and the headlamp too!
 

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Things to consider when choosing a light...

A few quick notes on intrinsically safe (IS) lights, regardless of which manufacturer's lights you may look at, that hopefully will help some of you make choices in the future:

- IS approvals for most people is completely unnecessary. Safety certifications are primarily broken down into Classes, Divisions, Groups, and Thermal Ratings. Even in industrial environments, less than half need a certified light, and probably only a tenth of those truly need IS rated lights .

- Class I deals with flammable vapors, gases (fumes) and liquids
- Class II deals with flammable dusts
- Class III deals with flammable fibers

- Division I environments have or are likely to have ignitable levels of the Class hazard present during normal operating conditions.
- Division II environments may, but are not likely to have ignitable levels of the Class hazard present during normal operating conditions.

- In simplistic language, for a light to become IS rated (C1D1, C2D1 or C3D1), no part of the light may cause/create/induce a flame, spark or electrical arc capable of igniting flammables in the environment (covered by the Class) during normal operation, even when the light is damaged/broken/exposed (specific testing requirements on amount of damage, length of time exposed, temperatures, etc. I won't bore you with). Again- in a simplistic sense- a C1D1 light can basically "go anywhere" with respect to vapors, fumes and/or liquids.

- For the vast majority of light users, especially GJ members, for use in a home shop setting, a light with no safety rating at all is likely OK. If you may have ignitable levels of flammable vapors, fumes or liquids exposed in the environment, but are not likely to, such as if you do work on fuel systems, use oxy/acetylene torches, use chemical strippers, do bodywork, etc. with (any) lighting and an air system that does not cycle the room air out frequently (or you do not at least keep doors and/or windows open), make sure you use at least a C1D2 rated light. Any manufacturer's C1D2 light. Please.

- C1D2, while safety rated, is technically not IS.

- Just a bit of (possibly) useful info- almost anything in sufficient volume, especially when suspended in the air, can be flammable, even possibly explosive. Baking flour. Shop dust. Gravel dust. Sugar. Ethylene glycol (yes, coolant). Your worst enemies in a home shop setting are inadequate ventilation and static electricity.

Last point, not pertaining to safety certs, but at rated output, battery life, etc. Any specs you read about regarding a light are considered honest if they are done to the ANSI/NEMA FL-1 standard. It is the only industry-wide accepted "universal" testing standard for output (in lumens only), distance seen, battery run time, etc. because every aspect of the testing is regulated and spelled out exactly what is expected of the manufacturer as far as rules to follow for testing. Specific testing equipment is needed as well. Even if a manufacturer rates a light as ** lumens, if it was not done to the FL-1 standard, it is likely a grossly exaggerated claim. Even going by the FL-1 standard, there are ways to trick a customer, if a manufacturer wants to. An example is lights with multi-LEDs, really high lumen rating, and almost unbelievable battery run times. The lumen output will be done with all LEDs on full strength, while the battery run time will be done on the lowest setting with the fewest LEDs running (unless otherwise specified on packaging). Unless others have started to follow suit, UK is the only manufacturer that prints the actual FL-1 burn chart graph for the light for the customer, and have for years to combat this- even before the FL-1 standard was adopted. Also, batteries matter. In a BIG way. FL-1 tested lights will have the brand and model of battery the testing was done with. Those are carefully chosen for best results, as well as safety and reliability concerns. If you use any batteries other than what the manufacturer specifies in a safety certified light, the certs are not in effect, and the light may not perform as intended. It would be akin to removing your car's airbag, getting in an accident and wondering why your airbag did not deploy and protect you.

Sorry, lots to absorb, I know. I hope it helps someone. More than that, keep in mind I left out A LOT of pertinent info, trying to keep things as basic and simple to understand as I could.
 
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