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whateg01

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It's not the presence of AI stuff. Is when people copy pasta unverified AI or stuff that is very clearly not applicable or is wrong. After all, AI stuff today is just a summarized search. Sometimes people just aren't good at searching. I have a friend who texts me from time to time saying he can't find any info on xyz. I'll do a search and sure enough, nothing useful comes up. So I'll modify the search or search for a related thing or a more generic search term and find the info he wants in several places then send it to him. Then he'll say how weird it is that none of that came up in his search.
 

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Is it people posting AI or is it bots?
^ We have seen multiple instances of members coming on and posting something they've copy & pasted from some "AI" search.
Thus far, in the context of "vintage tools", "AI" has proven itself to be less than "intelligent" by coming up with all manner of nonsensical "information".
I submit:

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On the flip side, there are those who argue that "AI" does indeed have its place, and is of great benefit in some cases.
I have not witnessed any of that personally. My eyes have seen only ridiculous nonsensical incorrect "answers" that in some cases defy simple logic and laws of physics.
YMMV.
 
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Hey AI, what's Garage Journal?

The Garage Journal was a Moscow-based international peer-reviewed open access academic journal created and published with the support of the Garage Museum of Contemporary Art. With the beginning of the Russian Federation’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, and the introduction of de facto wartime censorship in Russia, the publication of The Garage Journal was discontinued. The Garage Museum transferred the rights to The Garage Journal’s (and GJ Media’s) archives to the journal’s former editors, who have created a new independent journal based in Berlin, Germany. In order to underline the caesura of the current war, this journal has been called The February Journal.

Heck, I didn't know I was hanging out here with a bunch of commies. :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
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I asked it why I should trust its answers. Here is what it said.

You should not blindly trust AI answers; instead, treat them as a starting point, verifying critical information with reliable human-vetted sources because
AI can generate plausible-sounding but false information (hallucinations), lack deep context, reflect biases from its training data, and fabricate citations, so always check its output for accuracy, especially for important decisions. Use AI for efficiency and brainstorming, but rely on human judgment for truth, context, and ethics.

Reasons to be cautious:
  • Hallucinations: AI can confidently present completely fake facts, people, or events.
  • Lack of true understanding: AI predicts words based on patterns, not genuine comprehension, leading to errors in complex or nuanced topics.
  • Biased data: AI learns from human data, inheriting and potentially amplifying societal biases.
  • Citation fabrication: Tools sometimes invent or misattribute sources, damaging trust.
  • Outdated knowledge: Some models have knowledge cutoffs, making them unreliable for current events unless connected to live search.
 

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Then I asked AI to rate this forum.

Garage Journal is widely considered a top, comprehensive resource for garage enthusiasts, offering vast information, tool reviews, and inspiring DIY build threads, but its strong community can sometimes lean towards specific views, leading some users to find parts of the forum cliquey or frustrating, though its sheer volume of practical advice makes it a go-to for many.
 

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No sir. In fact, in the post you quoted I specifically said that I wasn’t expecting any hardline enforcement. Reviewing and moderating every post is clearly unrealistic.

I would just like to know the official GJ stance on AI content. Is it encouraged? Discouraged? No particular feelings one way or another?
I'm still having trouble with how you determine what's AI or not AI in our format here. It's not marked or identified with a watermark. Every time you Google a question now days it's probably an AI generated explanation of your question gathered from millions of existing data and processed as a correct answer. So how do you know?
Zim
 

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I asked AI how much concrete to fill a 12" post hole that was 24" deep. It told me 10.5 cubic feet of concrete.
Then I asked AI to rate this forum.

Garage Journal is widely considered a top, comprehensive resource for garage enthusiasts, offering vast information, tool reviews, and inspiring DIY build threads, but its strong community can sometimes lean towards specific views, leading some users to find parts of the forum cliquey or frustrating, though its sheer volume of practical advice makes it a go-to for many.
That's probably the most accurate thing I have ever seen from AI.
 

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I'm still having trouble with how you determine what's AI or not AI in our format here. It's not marked or identified with a watermark. Every time you Google a question now days it's probably an AI generated explanation of your question gathered from millions of existing data and processed as a correct answer. So how do you know?
Zim
People are often coping and pasting the result to not even try to disguise that it's AI.

Beside that, they way things are written can often be easily identified as Ai... Word use, phrasing and even punctuation
 
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