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laser3kw

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Ohhhh.... it was the anvil you picked up.
Is there any manufacture mark on it? what's the weight?
I got a 1854 ~ 1875 M&H ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE FORGE #138
 

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That's flipping SAWEEET!. What do you figures it weighs??
 
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Saw the PBR in your pic and backed up to check your location. Yup from WI. I grew up in Sun Prairie. Nice anvil by the way.

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K-Dog - Way tooooooo much

laser3kw - Its a Hay Budden. I have several but this is by far the largest one.

nine4gmc - I'll weigh it tomorrow but I'm guessing 400 to 500 pounds.

Zeke - Its 38 inches long and 14 1/2 tall
 

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NICE!!! That looks terrific...... oh, and the anvil isn't bad either. Lol
 

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K-Dog - Way tooooooo much

laser3kw - Its a Hay Budden. I have several but this is by far the largest one.

nine4gmc - I'll weigh it tomorrow but I'm guessing 400 to 500 pounds.

Zeke - Its 38 inches long and 14 1/2 tall

I'll say 350# then, I have a 32" long Hay Budden and it's 260# :beer:
 

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Damn JC that's a biggun and the edge looks good too. You got a nice one, havent seen one over 256lb for sale around here, and i bought the 256 pounder lol. On the one spacebook group a guy posted that he bought an anvil welded to a stand today, thought it may had been you until i saw the size of yours, his was an 87lb wright, not even 1/3rd of yours lol!
 
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So, how much at auction? I recently bought a pre-1820 Mouse Hole at auction for $190 (@$225 after buyer's premium). It weighs 143 lbs.

Tooooo much. BUT, I drove 2 hours to the auction and wasnt coming home empty handed. I bought two others as well, a smaller Peter Wright and a Queens Dudley (?) Had never seen a Queens Dudley before and didnt have my anvil book with me so I went ahead and bought it. I think there were a total of six anvils there today which, around here, is rare.
 

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So the mouse hole dates it or how did you date it? My old Hey Budden has the mouse hole on it.


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So the mouse hole dates it or how did you date it? My old Hey Budden has the mouse hole on it.
A little misunderstanding of terms.
There was a company called "Mousehole Forge" original in England. You can tell the date of their anvil by the way the name appears on the anvil.
here is some good reading:
Mousehole Forge link
There is debate if the term "mouse hole", when used to describe the feature on an anvil, came from this company or other source.
"The origins of the name of Mousehole is not certain. The square handling holes in an old anvil are called mouseholes. In England a bend in a river with a deep spot is known as a mousehole and Mousehole Forge was located at such as spot. There is a coastal English town named Mousehole and it was well known as the site of a brief French invasion about the time the forge was started. "
 

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Nah. You didn't pick that up. Looks like it could hurt. How'd you get it in the back of the truck?:bounce:

I don't own any anvils, but we have a couple at work, and I've beat steel a few times on one. Good stuff. There's definitely an old school charm to them, on top of just being useful. :thumbup:
 
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So I took this bad boy out to pops house today so we could put it on the scale and weigh it. People at the auction were claiming it weighed 500 pounds but I was a little skeptical of that. BUT....we put it on the scale and it came in at 556! Definitely the biggest and heaviest I've ever found.
 

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The stand isnt THAT heavy. I'd guess it'd probably be 50 lbs or so
we know the anvil is 38" long. So I estimate that the top is 36 x 36 x .5" (probably closer to 3/4") minimum. The would make the top around 185lb.
 

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I bet that stand weighs more than 75, the top looks like ½" plate and that is about 20 pounds a square foot, so guessing 2 x 3 would make the plate 60 pounds on its own. Either weigh, it is still a heavy anvil.

Stupid me, math genius.

120 pounds.
 
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I was going to say 24" x 48" but either way it's a lot heavier than 50lbs I would think. How thick is the top on that table 1/2"? That would be a 163# top right there.
 

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I bet that stand weighs more than 75, the top looks like ½" plate and that is about 20 pounds a square foot, so guessing 2 x 3 would make the plate 60 pounds on its own. Either weigh, it is still a heavy anvil.

MATH 101: 2 x 3 = 6...
6 x 20 = 120...
 
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Just had pops measure it since I left at his place after unloading it. Measures 29 x 21, half inch plate.
 

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So we all went over, I guess no one wins their showcase.

So about 85 pounds of top plate and a good 40 to 50 pounds of legs. The puts that sucker at a bit over 400 pounds!
 
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I'll cut it off and weigh it. Either way it is by far the biggest anvil I own. I have several:

Peter Wright 60# (made between about 1860 and 1920)
Fisher 100# (made in early 1900's)
M & H Armitage Mousehole (1820 - 1835, havent weighed it yet)
Queens & Dudley 163# (rough date of 1830-1860)
Bullock 220# (need to research dates)
And the big Hay Budden

I've got three others stashed in pops barn but cant remember the weights 2 Vulcans and a Soderfors.
 

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Lovely anvil!
What is the serial number on the front foot?
What did that go for at the auction? I was going to go.... ;-)
The 220# Bullock anvil was most likely Arm & Hammer made, most are for H.Channon Hardware Co made by Columbus Anvil & Forging Co.
 

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I'll cut it off and weigh it. Either way it is by far the biggest anvil I own. I have several:

Peter Wright 60# (made between about 1860 and 1920)
Fisher 100# (made in early 1900's)
M & H Armitage Mousehole (1820 - 1835, havent weighed it yet)
Queens & Dudley 163# (rough date of 1830-1860)
Bullock 220# (need to research dates)
And the big Hay Budden

I've got three others stashed in pops barn but cant remember the weights 2 Vulcans and a Soderfors.


Damn hoarders!!!! :lol:
 
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