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RUMBLON

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I really hope something like this is your next purchase for the shop.



AGREED. Great shop, but you may be proned to accidents:evil: first aid kit and eye solution station in my shops.

beautiful shop. I just left Nevada and my 4200 sq ft shop, made me sad. But im in the middle of my new shop build on 175 acres in Idaho. After making my last shop real pretty, Im not sure what Im going to do on this one.

great job!

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AGREED. Great shop, but you may be proned to accidents:evil: first aid kit and eye solution station in my shops.

beautiful shop. I just left Nevada and my 4200 sq ft shop, made me sad. But im in the middle of my new shop build on 175 acres in Idaho. After making my last shop real pretty, Im not sure what Im going to do on this one.

great job!

RUMBLON

Can't wait to see what you build on that much land!
 

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Right now I am using the 1940 frig to store sandpaper and other things effected by humidity, but it never even crossed my mind to make a powder coat oven out of it. I love the idea, but I have to wonder if the interior materials would handle high temperature since it was designed with the opposite in mind? Insulated, yes, metal, yes the rest I just don't know about. I might start a new thread on that question to see if anyone else has converted freezer/frig to oven.
It's my understanding that they used fiberglass as insulation even back then (invented in 1938). Assuming no resins added that would cause issues, the max temp would be 540C/1000F.
 

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Dayum! Sorry I missed this build but glad to have found it & caught up!:beer::beer:

The peeing on the fence story brought me to tears of laughter:lol:

You have a great way of telling a story and I look forward to reading more of your escapades!
 
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Last night I went out and checked out the new exhaust system that was installed yesterday for my retractable paint booth. The guy did a great job and at a GREAT price. He is going to trim the great stuff sealer a bit to make it neater and then we are done, but I can paint now. The system also has the flaps inside to prevent hot or cold air from coming back into the shop. I turned it on and it works wonderfully.
 

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Life, stranger than fiction.

My friend Marty knows that I have a borescope because we used it together to look inside a engine cylinder a while back. I recently packed up everything in my garage to move it into the new shop. I am determined to unpack everything in an orderly manner ensuring that I at least start out organized. I get a text from Marty asking if he a borrow the borescope. I reply that it is packed up in one of several dozen boxes that I am not ready to unpack yet. He then replies with a request to come over and look through all the boxes. I politely tell him I would rather not start that because it will lead to a bunch of open and partially unpacked boxes. The next day, I get the same request. I give the same answer. Then Monday at work he stops by and basically asks again. I am starting to feel really bad about saying no so I ask what is so important that he needs the borescope to fix, hoping I can suggest a different path to resolution.

I need to point out that Marty is the cheapest guy I know. If he were a superhero, his super power would be the power to haggle the bad guys into selling him their super weapons for like a $1.25. He once haggled with a telesales ******* phone selling the local Sunday newspaper using the angle of "I don't read all of the paper so why should I pay full price?" I'm pretty she that quit the job after a couple of hours of haggling with Marty and developed a drinking problem. He once got a scammer to drive 400 miles across Africa to pick up a Western union payment (not real of course) and then actually got the guy to send him some money before realizing that Marty was scam baiting him as part of his weekly haggling workout regiment. Got to keep those skills sharp you know.

Anyway, Marty has a daughter who is going to college in another state and he wanted to surprise her with a totally unexpected massive cash gift. Being of such a generous nature and understanding how expensive it can be out on your own, he dipped into the family trust fund and put (2) twenty dollar bills into an envelope to mail her just knowing this completely unexpected gift would forever change her life and start her off on a strong financial footing. He then proceeds to drive over to the mailbox center for his neighborhood and put the envelope into the outgoing mail slot. Done. Daughter will be happy and sing Daddy's praises!

How does this fit with the request for a borescope you might ask? Here it comes. After some time passes, Marty begins to wonder why he never gets the phone call from his little girl crying with happiness for such an unexpected windfall and telling him she had submitted his name to the Father of the year USA committee. He decides that he must have put the envelop into the wrong slot, soooooooooooo he wants to borrow the borescope to validate his theory by looking to the mail slot. Of course when I asked what he would do to retrieve the envelop, if against all odds he was right and the envelop was just sitting in the bottom of an unused mail slot, he replied, "a piece of coat hanger with chewing gum on the end should do the trick." I looked at him for a while and then asked what McGyver boy thought might happen if a policeman just happened to see him probing the inside of a federal mailbox with an electronic device and then fishing around in it with a coat hanger and gum? His answer? "I'll just explain and he'll understand why I would try to get some much money back. With this answer, I could only agree to helping him locate the scope and put this plan into action. I now needed to see how this would play out. I might even call the cops myself just to see him work his magic.

BTW... As he left the office and turned around and asked with a straight face if I had any old coat hangers around the shop.
 
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"BTW... As he left the office and turned around and asked with a straight face if I had any old coat hangers around the shop. "

LOL awesome. I know a guy JUST like that.
 

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Life, stranger than fiction.

My friend Marty knows that I have a borescope because we used it together to look inside a engine cylinder a while back. I recently packed up everything in my garage to move it into the new shop. I am determined to unpack everything in an orderly manner ensuring that I at least start out organized. I get a text from Marty asking if he a borrow the borescope. I reply that it is packed up in one of several dozen boxes that I am not ready to unpack yet. He then replies with a request to come over and look through all the boxes. I politely tell him I would rather not start that because it will lead to a bunch of open and partially unpacked boxes. The next day, I get the same request. I give the same answer. Then Monday at work he stops by and basically asks again. I am starting to feel really bad about saying no so I ask what is so important that he needs the borescope to fix, hoping I can suggest a different path to resolution.

I need to point out that Marty is the cheapest guy I know. If he were a superhero, his super power would be the power to haggle the bad guys into selling him their super weapons for like a $1.25. He once haggled with a telesales ******* phone selling the local Sunday newspaper using the angle of "I don't read all of the paper so why should I pay full price?" I'm pretty she that quit the job after a couple of hours of haggling with Marty and developed a drinking problem. He once got a scammer to drive 400 miles across Africa to pick up a Western union payment (not real of course) and then actually got the guy to send him some money before realizing that Marty was scam baiting him as part of his weekly haggling workout regiment. Got to keep those skills sharp you know.

Anyway, Marty has a daughter who is going to college in another state and he wanted to surprise her with a totally unexpected massive cash gift. Being of such a generous nature and understanding how expensive it can be out on your own, he dipped into the family trust fund and put (2) twenty dollar bills into an envelope to mail her just knowing this completely unexpected gift would forever change her life and start her off on a strong financial footing. He then proceeds to drive over to the mailbox center for his neighborhood and put the envelope into the outgoing mail slot. Done. Daughter will be happy and sing Daddy's praises!

How does this fit with the request for a borescope you might ask? Here it comes. After some time passes, Marty begins to wonder why he never gets the phone call from his little girl crying with happiness for such an unexpected windfall and telling him she had submitted his name to the Father of the year USA committee. He decides that he must have put the envelop into the wrong slot, soooooooooooo he wants to borrow the borescope to validate his theory by looking to the mail slot. Of course when I asked what he would do to retrieve the envelop, if against all odds he was right and the envelop was just sitting in the bottom of an unused mail slot, he replied, "a piece of coat hanger with chewing gum on the end should do the trick." I looked at him for a while and then asked what McGyver boy thought might happen if a policeman just happened to see him probing the inside of a federal mailbox with an electronic device and then fishing around in it with a coat hanger and gum? His answer? "I'll just explain and he'll understand why I would try to get the money back since it is so much" With this answer, I could only agree to helping him locate the scope and put this plan into action. I now needed to see how this would play out. I might even call the cops myself just to see him work his magic.

BTW... As he left the office and turned around and asked with a straight face if I had any old coat hangers around the shop.
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I just finished setting my the big *** blasting cabinet and it works wonderfully. I am using a super fine crushed glass and it just cleans away everything leaving a smooth very lightly tenured finish.

BTW.. You know how you get your wife's full support for bankrupting the family for a shop? You invite her friend Joan to sand blast a plant rack first thing. With her friend singing the blaster's praises, you're allgood.com
 

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So I got a chance to spend some play time with my blast cabinet and decided to test some different media on an old pot from a 1938 Kitchen Aid processor that I am restoring. I have the complete set of options for it, but everything was left sitting for 30 years in an old cabinet in a barn and every thing is corroded badly. This was a very unusual set in that the bowels were chromed (or maybe just nickel plated) As you can see from the pictures, the chrome is shot to hell, but getting it off is not as easy as it looks because is/was THICK.

I started with very fine crushed glass and then switched to black aluminum oxide. As I expected the glass was more gentle, but very slow. The oxide cuts faster, but was still gentle enough to not damage the pot or heat it. I finished with the oxide. I will use the glass when I want to remove paint gently. Here are some before pics the outside, inside and bottom.

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Now here are the after of the same shots.
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Now I need to decide if I want to get it re-chromed, powder coated to color match the mixer or even better, try to powder coat it myself (which would require the purchase of equipment!)
 

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There are Food safe powder coatings that are approved by the FDA. The colors are limited though.

I would guess they hold up to abrasion as well as other powder coatings.

Jim
 
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This is a picture of my friend backing his 38" camper in the shop to work on it this weekend. My wife had been wondering if I really needed 14' doors when I was building the shop and when I explained about AC units and RVs, I don't think she totally believed me. This picture clearly illustrates the need....
 

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Yesterday was a happy happy day. I got to welcome two more stray cars into the Blood Shed for care and feeding. A pair of 1965 Rivieras. One has a 401 nail head and the other the a 425. Both are numbers matching, but rough. One has a lot of rust damage in the truck lip area (very strange) so I will have an opportunity to learn about cutting, fabricating and welding something tricky. Right now I am thinking about doing the one with the 425 and a very rare combination of options back original and other one with the rust, whatever hot rod vision jumps to mind.
 

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nice cars, nice shop and excellent storytelling... i am going through this in snippets and haven't digested even but a tenth of it. what a read. i cringed when i saw the grinder injury, thank goodness you are OK and you couldn't just have put some vise grips on the drain plug??! ai ai ai. and how do you all in texas get to pay $3.15/gal for name brand gas?! it's at least 20c more up here in MI and i think that's a fabulous deal. but i'm sure people in cali and elsewhere have it much worse than i. just wanted to throw my 2c in... great thread.
 

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Re: gas prices... Welcome to Lakeway!:(

Same gas is .15 cheaper closer to I35...
 
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Well, it is official. The name of the shop is "The Blood Shed" due to the extremely high percentage of physical injuries I have sustained in it. The highlights described in this build thread include the "10 stitch tarantula attack", the infamous "just skip if off" leg injury and recently the "I think I'll stick my hand in a grinder" incident. This is not, by far, the all encompassing list of injuries that have drawn blood, just some of the standouts.

To formalize this name, I've been working on a logo and sign for the place. Here are some of my favorites which have the same logo, just different metal like backgrounds.

Comments?
 

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Well, it is official. The name of the shop is "The Blood Shed" due to the extremely high percentage of physical injuries I have sustained in it. The highlights described in this build thread include the "10 stitch tarantula attack", the infamous "just skip if off" leg injury and recently the "I think I'll stick my hand in a grinder" incident. This is not, by far, the all encompassing list of injuries that have drawn blood, just some of the standouts.

To formalize this name, I've been working on a logo and sign for the place. Here are some of my favorites which have the same logo, just different metal like backgrounds.

Comments?

My wife will love this name and logo,as she is certain that I am the inspiration for Tim Allen's character on the old TV show "Home Improvement". Maybe I can use this thread to show that I really am not a royal klutz, but that sometimes a little blood needs to be shed in order to complete a project.

Nice shop; enjoying the thread!
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If it helps your case, please tell her that we (guys using the shop) are thinking about putting up a safety score board that tracks number of blood shedding events per person. The rule is that there must enough blood to make a clear mark on the Blood-o-meter board which requires you to write your initals in blood your from one injury. I currently am the clear leader, but let me promise you there are already some close runner ups. We may also need to track burns as well. There seems to be an increase in that area as well and I haven't even broken out the plasma cutter or MIG yet.
 

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I am honored that you used Blood Shed. What did I win?

Honestly though, love the stories and hate spiders too. I will add my own electric fence story for your enjoyment.

A few years ago, I was back in PA visiting my folks and my dad was digging a trench to lay a new power line to the barn. Being the good son that I am I was helping him. Essentially we were using a spade and a pick, no fancy power tools. The ditch was being dug close to the electric fence because it was a good natural path to follow to the barn. The fence was turned off and the cow (the only one) was in the barn. Sometime during the afternoon, I needed to use the restroom and headed into the house for a min. It was hot and I was wearing shorts, also grabbed a quick drink on the way out of the house. I was probably gone 2mins max. I come back out to the trench and my dad is in the exact same place digging. I begin stepping over the fence when my dad says "Don't..." well that was all he got out of his mouth anyway. Before his second word could be said I was straddling the fence that was 2mins ago off. Well now it was suddenly on in a big way. I took a direct shot to the twig and berries. I jumped so high I cleared the fence with both feet and although I can't even touch the rim on a bball hoop normally, I imagined that I looked like Micheal Jordan dunking from 15ft out. I lay on the ground for a second or so and my Dad asked if I was ok. I looked at him in disbelief and asked how the hell the fence got turned on? He said, Oh, while you were in the house the cow started coming out so I ran up and turned it on. Good to know, I said, would have been better to know before I tried to step over the fence. I tried to tell you, he said. Yeah Dad, you did, thanks man.
 
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I see i am not the only one at war with mean old mister electricity! Awesome Father&son story. I often wonder if Dads actually let a little of this type stuff happen to us just to "man us up".

Yes, the name was your suggestion and I had actually been thinking about some way to give you the credit you deserve. Perhaps your picture on the wall as an honorary member of the "Blood Shed Band-aids" ? Maybe you could bring a car to Austin you want to paint and use the shop? Certainly bring you and your family to Austin and we'll put you up for a weekend!
 

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I see i am not the only one at war with mean old mister electricity! Awesome Father&son story. I often wonder if Dads actually let a little of this type stuff happen to us just to "man us up".

Yes, the name was your suggestion and I had actually been thinking about some way to give you the credit you deserve. Perhaps your picture on the wall as an honorary member of the "Blood Shed Band-aids" ? Maybe you could bring a car to Austin you want to paint and use the shop? Certainly bring you and your family to Austin and we'll put you up for a weekend!

I don't know if dads do or not, but I quit listening to my dad a long time ago. Too many times of "Here, hold this right there".:scared: My dad was always working on something, but I got the brunt of the injuries. My dad always had some ****** screwdrivers, They were used as pry-bars, chisels, and whatever else. He was working on his car one day that he couldn't get started so he pulled a plug wire and shoved a screwdriver in it. He told me "Kevin, hold this right here and tell me if it gets spark" The neighbor probably heard me yell four houses down. Electricity doesn't bother me until I get shocked.

We were putting a roof n his garage, and carrying some sheeting up on the roof. He had the old style wiring going into the house that had three wires running in right across the roof. I had my shirt off walking backwards and right into the lines. Shocked again.

THe last time was when a friend of dads brought up a hand built sportscar. I was leaning in looking at it and dad told the hut to show me the alarm system. DAMMIT!!!! I'm holding onto the car and he has this contraption wire through a Model A coil somehow and it charges the metal on the car.
 
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The wife went to Costco this weekend while I was working on a couple of 1965 Rivieras at the shop and she bought me a couple of early Xmas gifts she found. One is automatic motion detector paper towel dispenser like you see everywhere these days. It was easy to install and works great. The second was a full set of 6 Snap on bar stools for the bar table. They are the perfect size and the red matches great with the red walls. I know have a complete "club room" for the shop except for handles on the cabinets and drawers and a vent-less dryer. Cool wife, lucky husband. Now if she could just find me a 1968 triple black Charger with 440 and 4 speed......
 

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Fair question. Answer.

- Always having a strong work ethic (Mom and Pop upbringing)
- Always being generous even when I had little (Karma Baby)
- The only upside to NOT being able to have children is extra cash (Finding the silver lining, ie. college fund = shop)
- A wife that starts as temporary admin help and works her way up to executive (Damn lucky)
- Living in a place where hard work can pay off (USA)
- Being always thankful (big guy in the Sky)

Summary:
- Upbringing
- Generosity
- Lucky to have my wife and live in USA
- Most importantly - God

Anyway, enough serious stuff. I have more picture to upload of a LONG weekend of shop work.

Very honorable and humble answer. Your posts have shown you have amazing character and this only proves it more. Great build thread and thanks for sharing your life and adventures with us so candidly.
 
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I have gotten lucky again on finding a good deal for shop equipment. When I first budgeted for the shop project's equipment, I have set aside money for a cabinet parts washer. I was looking at this small one.

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/SWC-500-Spray-Wash-Cabinet_2

However starting back in May, it was back ordered for 5-6 months so I started watching Craigslist for something used. I got an email from Greg Smith Equipment telling that the washers were finally in stock on the same day I saw an ad in San Antonio for a used Impulse II washer from Better Engineering. It was a top loading spray washer and wouldn't handle a full sized V8 block, but just about everything else. My friend Allen, pointed out that if I were to ever clean an engine block, I would want to get it magnafluxed and they would clean it to do that, so why get the full cabinet if I could save serious money (to buy other shop stuff with of course !!) So I called about it even though it was listed as functional state unknown with no power plug on the cord.

The owner seemed like a really cool guy who said it picked it up at a military auction and was planning to use the motor and pump for a farm project, but that fell through so he was selling it. The more he described it, the more I thought it might be able to run full function even though it was full of rust and leaves. When he mentioned that he was coming to San Marcos yesterday and would bring it all the way to the shop n Austin for free, I decided to roll the dice.

We agreed on $600 as is. He delivered it and it was exactly as described so we closed the deal. I took him to breakfast as a thank you and found that he was almost as big a car nut as me which is always cool to expand the car nut network.

After he left, I started cleaning out the leaves and big pieces of rust from removable pieces of sheet metal that was completely rotted from sitting a long time with standing water. I made a pig tail and broke out the generator to test it out in the driveway. After a lot of guess work and trail and error, I was able to the heater element going and then the pump system. I can't find a manual for it anywhere so it was a stumbling process. It would run a short while and then throw a low water alert even thought it was full. I also notice that when the heater and pump both ran it the same time, the generator bogged almost to the point of dieing. It was single phase 220V so I assume a 30AMP feed would cover it. Wrong. It is rated at 48AMP. Fortuitously I have one 50AMP plug for RV hookup. My friend Allen stopped by (he owns an electrical service company, Austin Electric, so how handy is that) and he popped on an RV plug head and we brought it inside to plug it. After Allen checked it out and noticed the sensor for the water level was gummed up, it fired right up, made HOT water and sprayed like nothing I've ever seen. The motor is 3HP!

Next came the flat tire problem. Tire, you say? The rotating table is driven by a small tire like on a wheel barrow. We drove to Home Depot, Sears, Lowes and finally found one that we believed could work. Allen was changing the tire to the right hub and accidentally ripped the inner tube. He agreed to run and get one while I sandblasted and painted some of the parts. He had to go back to Home depot, Sears, Lowes and even Wal-mart to find the inner tube. We got it installed, I was able to POR15 the underside of the lid and today I will run a bunch of Evapro-rust through it and then POR 15 the rest of the inside.

It looks like I have a SWEET parts washer for $600 plus $30 for tire and tube.
 

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****. The sensor for the water level in the parts washed burned out and will have to be replaced (if I can even get one) or just by passed which then rules out leaving the unit on all the time so the cleaner will always be hot and ready. Since this thing can draw 48A at 220V, I would not want to have the water level drop to low without knowing it. The sensor is strange. It is a long sealed stick that sits inside a long tube next to another one that has a rod that moves up or down inside the adjacent tube depending on water level. The rod has a magnet on the end. The inside of the stick had two sections welded in with a long glass tube and a flat copper stripe inside. Both had broken. Here is a picture.
 

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It is called a reed switch. Just a very thin piece of metal holding a contact. In the present of a magnetic field it will change state. You can buy these from an electronic component wholesaler or online from someone like Digikey or Electrosonic and repair the sensor yourself. Should be pretty cheap - probably less than $1 or $2 each, might be a minimum quantity though.

You will need to determine if it is a normally open switch (Form A), normally closed switch (Form B), or 3 wire common with a normally open and normally closed contact (Form C). Also, see what voltage is applied across the switch and make sure you get one rated for that voltage. Typically reed switches are low voltage and low current.

Good luck!
 
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