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Planning phases- a few questions (pics)

blocke

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Hey all,
Long time lurker here. I've read many helpful threads on here, thanks all who contribute to the wealth of knowledge.

I'm in the planning phases of doing flooring on my 2-car ~400 sq/ft garage. I'm leaning towards expoxy, for looks, and durability. But also open to VCT (cost)or Racedeck type solution (ease of install.)

First Question:
2 sides of my garage have a "ledge" running down it. Its very course, doesn't look like it was troweled smooth. Can I expoxy over it? I don't want the floor looking great, and bordered by this ****.
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Second question:
There is an expansion joint along the perimeter. It's full of that black paper material, and then had some concrete smeared over the seam that is flaking off. I'm assuming I can chip away the concrete covering, clean out the paper and fill like has been suggested for expansion joints elsewhere in the forum?

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Last question:
My floor has several places where there are hairline spiderweb cracks. I plan on using a diamabrush if I do expoxy. Do I need to worry about filling these?
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You cannot even see them from a standing height.
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mnavillus

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Yes you can go up the wall vertically with your epoxy.....If you were planning to broadcast flakes? and were going to go 100% flakes?, you should plan to double broadcast the vertical areas to look like the rest of the floor...

Yes you will need to remove the loose material from the "EJ"expansion joint and fill accordingly...you may have to "bridge" the EJ depending on width,depth and etc...however at minimum it will need to addressed and filled.....contact me directly and I can get a lot more detailed about options for this EJ

As to the "minor spider cracking"...This is a common problem and you can typically go right over hair lines shrink crack with your epoxy..but being you have to address the perimeter EJ anyways and will have filler material mixed up.... it will not hurt to pretreat these after you finish your surface prep...

I won't to stress the importance of the a quality surface prep!
and
Using quality materials.

stay away from "over the counter kits"

Let me low if you have any more questions?

good luck.
 

Garage Flooring

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Hey all,
Long time lurker here. I've read many helpful threads on here, thanks all who contribute to the wealth of knowledge.

I'm in the planning phases of doing flooring on my 2-car ~400 sq/ft garage. I'm leaning towards expoxy, for looks, and durability. But also open to VCT (cost)or Racedeck type solution (ease of install.)

First Question:
2 sides of my garage have a "ledge" running down it. Its very course, doesn't look like it was troweled smooth. Can I expoxy over it? I don't want the floor looking great, and bordered by this ****.
IMG_1752_zpsba56029c.jpg



Second question:
There is an expansion joint along the perimeter. It's full of that black paper material, and then had some concrete smeared over the seam that is flaking off. I'm assuming I can chip away the concrete covering, clean out the paper and fill like has been suggested for expansion joints elsewhere in the forum?

IMG_1753_zps727561f4.jpg


Last question:
My floor has several places where there are hairline spiderweb cracks. I plan on using a diamabrush if I do expoxy. Do I need to worry about filling these?
photo_zps557af3a3.jpg


You cannot even see them from a standing height.
IMG_1750_zpsff570c92.jpg

Some of these questions depend on the product used, your skill level and the desired outcome.

If it was my floor: I would deal with the expansion joint as described by @mnavillus.

I would use coatings, but no flake on the vertical surface, and I might use a different color depending on how much effort I wanted to put into it.

If I was using a high solids urethane or epoxy I would not mess with the spider cracks. It is absolutely better from a technical standpoint to repair them. BUT, I have seen way to many people make their floor look worse by over thinking those areas. Several coatings products would do just fine directly over those, but you will lose some coverage.
 

mnavillus

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I hope this will help give you an idea of what your vertical surface could look like with a couple of different floor finishes. This job was completed last week in San Antonio, Texas.

We utilized both porcelain and epoxy in this particular garage, but there are other options(different colors, contrasting colors or etc)

There are a lot of options!

good luck!
 

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mnavillus

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I started using there systems in 2009 and I've experienced 0 failures..However I have a couple of scarifying machines for larger projects requiring a deeper score or tougher removal process!

I'm a fan of diamond surface preparation over shot blasting particularly when dealing with thinner build systems. I personally am not a fan of the fracturing caused by the shot blasting process but thats just my opinion!

However I do like the Diamabrush for most of my residential and some commercial applications but like anything else they have there limitations and sweet spots for surface preparations.

What systems are your guys working with?
 
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