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Private Lugnutz

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I'm not trying to persuade you, Don. Just restating the facts of the study and my thinking for others, for whom it may not be repetitive at all, why any alternative to the wartime month-year correlation is too implausibly thin for me to justify without substantial evidence.
 
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I labeled them with part number and date code.
A terrific line-up, by the way!

One more relevant note on Todd's study - it did not include Paschall hammers as far as I recall. Just wrenches. In fact, until I found one, I'm not sure I recall that they even had letter-letter date codes. Adding the hammers to the analysis could actually prove to be much more helpful than we may at first suspect. We know that the Paschal facility was added explicitly to increase their capacity. If the codes are factories, it would mean that you have hammers made in at least three different factories (IB, GC, and DC). Do they exhibit different features implying three different factories the way some wrenches and some drive tools do? If not, it could lend more credence to the system Todd (and Krusty) worked out, which would mean your Paschall branded hammers were made in the Paschall facility in 1935 (5A), and Sep 1942 (IB), April 1943 (DC), and Sep 1943 (GC), respectively. Which is more likely? Several different factories all making Paschall branded hammers? Or the former Paschall factory making Paschall branded hammers at different times? As Don suggests, something for everyone to nut over until we find something more substantive.
 
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Yes maybe leaf springs. Not mine just got sent the pic. I think the two pieces are splined and can be indexed.
 

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This Plomb 1370 hammer was in a group of tools I bought Tuesday. It is the first one I have ever seen.
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There were 9 Plomb USA wrenches in the mix, and I'll post photos later.
 

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Here is all the Plomb from the latest find.
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1370 plastic hammer
1150 DBE 1-1/16 x 1-1/8
1145 DBE 15/16 x 1
1230 combo 15/16
1228 combo 7/8
1214 combo 7/16
3425 Tappet 7/16 x 1/2
3047 DOE 15/16 x 1-1/16
3040 DOE 13/16 x 7/8
3034 DOE 5/8 x 11/16
47 3/8 x 3/16 pin punch
47 1/2 x 1/4 pin punch AD date code
5344 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 11/16 deep
5345 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 3/4 deep
5425 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 25/32
5424 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 3/4
5419 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 19/32
5416 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 1/2
5444 1/2 dr. Drag Link
 

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Here's another Paschall data point. Sorry if it duplicates prior examples, I tried to figure it out and quickly got confused.

I think a new handle is in order, if I shouldn't do that someone please let me know:)

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I tried to figure it out and quickly got confused.
If you mean the codes, the system proposes that the first letter is the month, and that the second letter is the year. The study was done exclusively with wrenches, hundreds of examples. It was discovered that none of them bear any first letters except A through L, or any second letters other than B, C, D, or E. 12 first letters, 4 second letters. Since there is already a known Plomb numerical date code that ended in 1941, it was a perfect fit for a date code from 1942 to 1945. Adding Paschall hammers to the study corpus has been very interesting, and thus far, they're falling into the parameters of the same letter combinations.
I think a new handle is in order
It could be my eyes, or the light, or the fact that there is no paint left, but it doesn't look hexagonal. My understanding is they were all originally hexagonal grip. If that's true, it's probably been replaced once. If it is hexagonal and worn or I'm just not seeing it, I would be tempted to try to restore it. Lightly sand with a block along the flats to try to sharpen the hex edges. And I might even be tempted to dip it in some green paint up to the shoulder. Then because I am kooky that way, I'd probably distress it a little to age it. But these are all subjective decisions. Nobody here will judge you for what you do.
 

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Thanks Lugz, appreciate the succinct explanation of the date codes. You are correct, the handle is not hexagonal at all. It is also damaged with a large crack near the head. I’ll keep an eye out at future sales for a handle that is more appropriate, and maybe I’ll even dip it in green paint!
 

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Here is all the Plomb from the latest find.
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1370 plastic hammer
1150 DBE 1-1/16 x 1-1/8
1145 DBE 15/16 x 1
1230 combo 15/16
1228 combo 7/8
1214 combo 7/16
3425 Tappet 7/16 x 1/2
3047 DOE 15/16 x 1-1/16
3040 DOE 13/16 x 7/8
3034 DOE 5/8 x 11/16
47 3/8 x 3/16 pin punch
47 1/2 x 1/4 pin punch AD date code
5344 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 11/16 deep
5345 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 3/4 deep
5425 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 25/32
5424 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 3/4
5419 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 19/32
5416 1/2 dr. 12-pt. 1/2
5444 1/2 dr. Drag Link
Nice haul! I wonder when all those wrenches were made? They don’t seem to have any alleged date codes.
-Don
 
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It is also damaged with a large crack near the head...
I missed that.
...and maybe I’ll even dip it in green paint!
Go for it! The neat thing about the vintage mechanics tools "community", or the one that sort of informally drifts between GJ and eBay and Tool Talk and some FB groups, etc, is that you won't find much of the puritanical, judgmental "standards" of the more formal clubs that grew out of Early American tool collecting. Not that everyone has the same aesthetics and opinions on restoration or presentation etc. Far from it. But everyone cheers everyone else on or at least maintains an indifferent respectful distance.
 

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Saukit, if you can pull he handle without damaging it, I've opened simple cracks and glued them before - I'd rather keep a vintage replacement than replace with just any old new handle (the originals are hard to find, NOS)
 

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I've got quite a plomb collection including 10 tool boxes. Still on the hunt for a wheel about Jr. My rarest piece is my 1938/39 toolmobile
 

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..... wonder how long before we get to see pics of the nailhead? ;)
Thanks for the welcome. Been just browsing on here for a while. That's my first comment. I specialize in nailheads. Built well over 200 of them. It's all I work on. We also sell every part. www.nailheadbuick.com is my website. My extensive blog on that website is titled "Matt's corner" with loads of free information. I'd have no problem posting that stuff on a more appropriate thread if there is one. Right now my current plomb box project is the bare metal 40s 9998 I posted before and after pics, below. That one's been a challenge. I'll post another pic of it when it's done, soon. It's going to stay bare metal. Inside of drawers and box is going to be bright red. Still have to get the new lock arm working, waiting on paint and speed wrench clips for lid that were busted off, and the decal for it. Still not sure if I'm even going to put the speed wrench clips on. We will see.
 

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Nailhead nice pics and finds!!

All: just curious what paint (if any left on shelves) you guys use for Plvmb green toolboxes or army green cabiplomb boxes came in two different greens and two different reds, for the most part. Crinkle green and gloss green and crinkle red and gloss red. Some small 1/4" drive navy boxes were blue, but that's rare. Otherwise the 1938/39 toolmobile came in light metallic blue (which I will try to restore mine to via powdercoating. I've yet to otherwise try to color match original plomb box colors... I typically just pic a color I like. I've powdercoated a 30s 9999 and a mid to late 40s flat top 9989 in a red that I though was attractive, and so I went with it... Otherwise If most the original paint is there, I don't do anything. That green 40s 9998 I posted above was neon green rattle canned... All that wiped right off with laquer thinner and the crinkle green under it looks amazing.
 
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