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Picked up a couple things this morning. Trying to figure out the markings on the DBE.........They are confusing when you consider when certain markings were supposed to have come into play.
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Hey Todd. I left this one behind on Sunday, but I took a pic for you. This one is marked PROTO, so they they had to have continued making this type of DBE for something... :dunno:
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1/2 USS (7/8) PROTO MADE IN USA 5/8 USS (1 1/16) 1041
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Hey Todd. I left this one behind on Sunday, but I took a pic for you. This one is marked PROTO, so they they had to have continued making this type of DBE for something... :dunno:
Markings are:
1/2 USS (7/8) PROTO MADE IN USA 5/8 USS (1 1/16) 1041
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Wish you'd grabbed it........

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Just a few that was in an old Snap On tool box I bought. Some damn good wrenches that I use every chance I get.
 

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Found a wartime Plomb 3039 DOE (IC) and a 9651 stubby with a busted handle over the weekend.

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Very nice bmwrd0, You don't see the boxes or the chart very often.
 
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Was a $50 tool day. Interesting sale. 90 yr old plus former independent machinist in a nursing home. Friends and family selling all his stuff. Had a 10 or 12 foot bed lathe, all tooling: $2,000. Smaller Morgan Lathe, needing some work: $200. I didn't have room with no shop at the moment, or that one would have come home. The chuck on it was worth nearly that.

Tables of tools, laid out flat. Grab some and they give you a price. I grabbed a 5 gallon bucket, and had a firm resolve to only buy stuff I'm interested in. Was tempted to just dump most anything on the table into the bucket, but restrained myself. Don't need another few hundred Craftsman sockets to get rid of.

Anyway, got the lot in the pictures. First picture is it all, sorted by groups: Plomb, Proto, Snap-on, others. Last pictures are the Plomb.
 

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Was a $50 tool day. Interesting sale. 90 yr old plus former independent machinist in a nursing home. Friends and family selling all his stuff. Had a 10 or 12 foot bed lathe, all tooling: $2,000. Smaller Morgan Lathe, needing some work: $200. I didn't have room with no shop at the moment, or that one would have come home. The chuck on it was worth nearly that.

Tables of tools, laid out flat. Grab some and they give you a price. I grabbed a 5 gallon bucket, and had a firm resolve to only buy stuff I'm interested in. Was tempted to just dump most anything on the table into the bucket, but restrained myself. Don't need another few hundred Craftsman sockets to get rid of.

Anyway, got the lot in the pictures. First picture is it all, sorted by groups: Plomb, Proto, Snap-on, others. Last pictures are the Plomb.

Well done! I see several things there i need for my collection! Nice grabs. I am sure you could sell the snappy stuff for more than the cost to cover all your grabs for the day!:beer:
 

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A couple of Plomb additions in today's flea.
WF-49 socket
WF-20 3/8in drive breaker bar
WF-81 DBE
1/2in combo
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The outdoor project list is finally getting shorter and its time that I moved on to looking after this Plumb Toolmobile that I scored last year. The drawers are nice but missing all the dividers so I will make some up. It was also missing the wheels but no big deal and the lock has no key. It does have the piston & valve holder tray for the top. The bad news is that it has a fair amount of rust and some of the rounded corners have been smashed. I have been welding up quite a few holes today that were drilled into top and sides. So, because of the damage, I have decided to have it bead blasted and painted. Then I'm going to load it up with my other Plvmb treasures so my son can have it after I drop dead. I hope it will be worth a few Daisys :) He's a good boy though, works in engineering for TESLA
 

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In addition to the Plumb Toolmobile, I also found this box. Its in very nice shape and will go on top of the Toolmobile.
 

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Hey Todd. I left this one behind on Sunday, but I took a pic for you. This one is marked PROTO, so they they had to have continued making this type of DBE for something... :dunno:
Markings are:
1/2 USS (7/8) PROTO MADE IN USA 5/8 USS (1 1/16) 1041

Those size marking refer to evolving 'custom and practice' in the machine trades, in the early 1900's to the 1950's.

There were several standards for threaded fasteners which had been developed by the various manufacturers, as fasteners had become a commonly available industrial product during the (approx) 1850-ish to 1900-ish time-frame.

In the 'early 1900's' time-frame, trade associations came into being, and worked at providing simplified standards for fasteners. These standards included adoption of the 60deg. thread (instead of the 55deg. Whitworth standard used in the UK), and specific thread pitch series relative to major diameter, such as the 'standard coarse' of 20 tpi thread for 1/4" dia, 18 tpi for 5/16", etc, and the 'standard fine' of 28 tpi for 1/4", 24 tpi for 5/16". etc., etc. The specs included published tolerances for different classes of threads, from 'cheap' to 'precision'...well, relatively so, anyway.

The most common of the fastener standards were commonly known as 'USS' or 'United States Standard', the 'coarse thread series', and 'SAE' (Society of Automotive Engineers). the fine thread series.

The standards also specified the 'distance across flats' for bolt heads, capscrew heads, and nuts, both square and hex. (the triangular bolt-heads used in some eastern European practice were not adopted in any American standards)

The bolt/capscrew heads and nuts were specified as either 'light' or 'heavy', with 'heavy' only used in the USS series, in common practice.

It had become a custom by the 1890's (approx) for wrench makers to mark their wrenches for the thread size of standard nuts which a wrench would fit, such as the 7/8" across flats size for 1/2" USS nuts, or the 1-1/16" across flats size for 5/8" nuts..

This became a source of petty confusion when the SAE series of fine-thread fasteners went into common use. In the SAE series, the 'across flats' size for a 1/2" nut was 3/4", not 7/8", and so on in proportion for other thread diameter sizes.

Those 'dual marked' wrenches are the last examples of the earlier practice of marking wrenches by the thread diameter of the nuts they fit, and will usually be found marked for the 'USS' standard nuts. Wrenches so marked may be found even in early/mid 1950's tool production, a 'last remnant' of the earlier standard practice.

During the war, in the 40's, the War Production Board issued orders to simplify fastener and tool production, abolishing the use of 'odd 32nds' nut and wrench sizes, and specifying that wrenches be marked only in the actual size of the wrench, which would be the 'across flats' dimension of the fastener the wrench was meant to suit.

The 'dual marked' wrenches are an interesting bit of industrial history, the 'evolution of standard practice', to be sure.

Enough trivia for today?.........yes, I thought so..... : )

cheers

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The outdoor project list is finally getting shorter and its time that I moved on to looking after this Plumb Toolmobile that I scored last year. The drawers are nice but missing all the dividers so I will make some up. It was also missing the wheels but no big deal and the lock has no key. It does have the piston & valve holder tray for the top. The bad news is that it has a fair amount of rust and some of the rounded corners have been smashed. I have been welding up quite a few holes today that were drilled into top and sides. So, because of the damage, I have decided to have it bead blasted and painted. Then I'm going to load it up with my other Plvmb treasures so my son can have it after I drop dead. I hope it will be worth a few Daisys :) He's a good boy though, works in engineering for TESLA

Looks like you have a good start on your project :beer: Can't wait to see it done! What color are you painting it?
 

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I'm going with red and I would like to paint the stripes like the original build. When its done I will post to one of the tool box threads on here.
 

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CARLA: great post and i for one enjoyed reading it. it might take me a few more times to commit it to memory, but very interesting just the same. THANKS FOR SHARING!! :bowdown:
 

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Oh yea I did here you go
 

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And a couple more
 

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One day in one spot from Craig'slist I'll post more later
 
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Thanks all . I went there expecting to look through 2 or 3 boxes and when I went in I didn't even know where to start. me and a friend split the cost and we are at just abput at .63 cents each
 

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Thanks all . I went there expecting to look through 2 or 3 boxes and when I went in I didn't even know where to start. me and a friend split the cost and we are at just abput at .63 cents each
I will be the first to give you a "you ****". That is just insane the amount. You got more in 1 day than I get in a couple years.

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That is an oldie.

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I thought plomb los angelos was on the newer side. Been a year since I really researched age tho.

Side note. Talking about you **** deals this ain't plomb related but on Thursday I'll reveal my drill bit haul in a new thread for you guys. Most would be considered vintage


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The non-stylized "O" in PLOMB is a tip-off to an early tool.

Nice find! Chisels get used up, so one in good shape is kind of rare.
 

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Thanks all . I went there expecting to look through 2 or 3 boxes and when I went in I didn't even know where to start. me and a friend split the cost and we are at just abput at .63 cents each

What is the whole story on this honey hole? How did you find it?
 

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Smoke Pretty much go searching for Plomb on craigslist Seen an add with 3 random pictures nothing fancy called the lady went there she said the guy that lived there had died in June and she's been cleaning this house out ever since and said he was a hoarder and had an a lot of plumb tools when I went in the tool room it was like I was stoned on Plomb there was so many I had no idea where to start or what to offer so I took a deep breath started estimating how many were there I figured there were at least 500 so I offered $500.00 I figured if I got them for $1.00 each I couldn't go wrong . She said yes went back the next day and cleaned her out she said there was probably more and she would call me if so since then I've been sorting tools

Any one got any info on the wrench never seen a part number of that configuration
 

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