Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[RagTopTA]

Im gonna keep on doing that. I put an add in Dallas CL Looking for PLOMB tool boxes and tools. You never know

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well played rag! I have been thinking about doing that but have not yet... Looks like I need to get to it[emoji38]


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[RagTopTA]

Dang it I prob just lost about 5 plomb things lol.. I found a cool Blackhawk 9/16 T handle today at a junk store.. $2!! cleaned up nice. Turns out on AA it says man date 1921-1928!! things 11 1/2"

 

[Provincial]

What on Earth would that be used for?

Brian

It is for adjusting eccentric anchor pins on shoe brakes from the late 1930's into the '50's. There is a flat on the threaded end of the anchor pin that the thin slots in the wrench fit. You rotate the anchor pin to establish the desired gap between the shoe and the drum surface.


http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-33652407708730/upper-brake-shoe-adjusting-eccentric-front-or-rear-2-required-per-drum-1941-1945-mb-1945-1945-ford-gpw-1945-1949-cj2a-1948-1953-cj3a-1950-1952-m38-9.jpg

Here is an illustration of 1939 Ford brakes that shows the tool in use:
http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/39RearBrake.jpg

 

[Smokeshow69]

It is for adjusting eccentric anchor pins on shoe brakes from the late 1930's into the '50's. There is a flat on the threaded end of the anchor pin that the thin slots in the wrench fit. You rotate the anchor pin to establish the desired gap between the shoe and the drum surface.





http://ep.yimg.com/ay/yhst-33652407...-1949-cj2a-1948-1953-cj3a-1950-1952-m38-9.jpg



Here is an illustration of 1939 Ford brakes that shows the tool in use:

http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/39RearBrake.jpg

Good illustration! I too have one of those wrenches and wondered how it would be used !


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[d42jeep]

The wrenches shown below were posted on another forum by a gentleman from the U.K. These were his comments about the wrenches "Ranger AT items made for Fairchild Aviation". Does anybody have similar marked or other vintage Plomb wrenches (besides WF examples) that didn't appear in catalogs?
-Don

 

[Discherd]

Just thought I would join in with the Plomb stuff I have found, they probably have been seen already. The 3/4" and two 1/4" ratchets have their selector switch but the two 1/2" ratchets don't.

 

[RagTopTA]

nice collection you have there Dicherd! Howd you find the 3/4 ?

 

[Smokeshow69]

Just thought I would join in with the Plomb stuff I have found, they probably have been seen already. The 3/4" and two 1/4" ratchets have their selector switch but the two 1/2" ratchets don't.

You have some good stuff there and a great start to your collection! The 4751 low clearance ratchet is not easy to come by. I just got one this year after 4 years of collection. I seem some proto in the back ground. You can take pictures of it and post it on this thread as well!

 

[Discherd]

I came across the 3/4" rat about a month ago at a garage sale, some gentleman was trying to to reduce because he and his wife will be moving (ohio to florida).
He asked 10$

 

[RagTopTA]

I came across the 3/4" rat about a month ago at a garage sale, some gentleman was trying to to reduce because he and his wife will be moving (ohio to florida).
He asked 10$

wow you got a steal congrats!

 

[r_olson_06]

wow you got a steal congrats!

I came across the 3/4" rat about a month ago at a garage sale, some gentleman was trying to to reduce because he and his wife will be moving (ohio to florida).
He asked 10$

Yes can't complain with that price. Paid alot more for mine.

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[RagTopTA]

I dont find hardly any Plomb ratchets here... our flea market has the same **** pretty much except 2 vendors that have new stuff every Sunday. I did find a old set of =V= deep 1/2 sockets today with that cool old metal CM box though!

 

[Discherd]

Smokeshow69, as you requested pictures. I got the Proto box last year and then had a place to put my plumb and proto stuff. For the proto sockets, top row 1/4" next row is 3/8" and bottom 2 rows are 1/2" - two of the sockets say Los Angeles

 

[Discherd]

I was thrilled when I came across the 4751 rat, but when cleaning it, I noticed that two of the teeth are pretty much gone and another two are rounded over, but it still works OK with a couple of skips.

 

[Rileysan]

Smokeshow69, as you requested pictures. I got the Proto box last year and then had a place to put my plumb and proto stuff. For the proto sockets, top row 1/4" next row is 3/8" and bottom 2 rows are 1/2" - two of the sockets say Los Angeles

Beautiful collection!

Brian

 

[r_olson_06]

Thought it was going to be a bad weekend. Drove 4 hours 1 way to a flea market. Didn't find alot for the trip. Thought I was only gonna leave with 1 plomb wrench and a couple Craftsman circle u sockets but the wife spotted a booth I missed and told me about it and it had plomb.
Top is Craftsman circle u. The bottom is all plomb expect 1 proto LA socket. I finally got some 3/8 deep wells. I had to pay a little for them.
I also got 2 dual marked 1212 3/8 combo wrenches.


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[r_olson_06]

My curiosity finally got the better of me. Every time this thread pops up in new posts I wonder... wasn't this thread originally titled "~Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!" with the tilde as the first character? Why was the tilde removed?

It was. I remember about 2 years ago it was that. Not sure when it changed.

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[Swingpress]

I have never seen a distributor wrench(not that that means much), until I owned one! Lol

Thanks y'all for speeding this sickness to me.....

 

[twertsy]

I thought you all would enjoy this. As I do on occasion, I've been going back through the histories of tool manufacturers because information is constantly being digitized and more and more information becomes available. During my Plomb scan, I ran across a great article on Mr. Pendleton explaining his rise with the company. If you have a subscription to newspapers.com, you can read the article here. I'm posting this tiny excerpt because I recall somebody finding a key chain screwdriver with his name stamped in it. Thought everyone would like to know that this was his "business card" so that screwdriver was indeed likely directly in his hands at some point.

 

[Username already in use]

Found a few Plomb goodies at the flea this weekend. Eight 1/2" drive sockets, A pebble DBE, a Firestone breaker bar and Firestone speeder.

 

[Carla]

I thought you all would enjoy this. As I do on occasion, I've been going back through the histories of tool manufacturers because information is constantly being digitized and more and more information becomes available. During my Plomb scan, I ran across a great article on Mr. Pendleton explaining his rise with the company. If you have a subscription to newspapers.com, you can read the article here. I'm posting this tiny excerpt because I recall somebody finding a key chain screwdriver with his name stamped in it. Thought everyone would like to know that this was his "business card" so that screwdriver was indeed likely directly in his hands at some point.

The little 'key ring screw drivers' were a popular item in the Plomb, and later Proto, line for many years, and are now a popular collectible piece of history.

They were sold as 'generic' from the supply house tool boards, but are more often found, these days, as ones which were ordered in quantity lots as advertising souvenirs, stamped with this or that firm's name..

cheers

Carla

 

[twertsy]

The little 'key ring screw drivers' were a popular item in the Plomb, and later Proto, line for many years, and are now a popular collectible piece of history.

They were sold as 'generic' from the supply house tool boards, but are more often found, these days, as ones which were ordered in quantity lots as advertising souvenirs, stamped with this or that firm's name..

cheers

Carla

Yup, they are my main target in antique shops. I just thought it was neat that he used them as his business card. I know somebody posted one with Morris Pendleton's name on it.

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[drivesitfar]

ALL: i don't think i've found or own a Plvmb or old PROTO screwdriver, but i'd like to.

Smoke: thanks for the labels and when i find a good use for them i'll have them ready to use. are you ready to sell me back the Plvmb box yet?

cheers

 

[Smokeshow69]

ALL: i don't think i've found or own a Plvmb or old PROTO screwdriver, but i'd like to.



Smoke: thanks for the labels and when i find a good use for them i'll have them ready to use. are you ready to sell me back the Plvmb box yet?



cheers

Well thank you sir! Don't know if I know a guy who more cool old stuff than you and I am thinking you may not know now what you will use them on but I know you will figure something out ! I am not ready to sell the box back yet [emoji3] I think I may also have something figured out on the slides as well so we will see ! I am trying to get a few other projects ahead of it done but will work on it soon ! I will keep you guys posted on progress as well


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[Swingpress]

ALL: i don't think i've found or own a Plvmb or old PROTO screwdriver, but i'd like to.



cheers

We, it's a little earlier than plvmb but here is a 12" screwdriver marked PLOMB TOOL Co.
LOS ANGELES 9706. Unfortunately it looks like the previous owner did some work on it as she is now 1" short. There are definitely better examples out there but for some reason I just really like this one.

 

[drivesitfar]

SP: I've got more than a few Plvmb and Proto L.A. regular wood screwdrivers. these are the salesman sample screwdrivers i was talking about and i found a few online pictures of Plvmb, Proto and a few others for those of you that might have thought Plvmb was the only tool company doing this.

 

[Swingpress]

Those are cool! I need to find me a few!

Being that I'm new (but learning) to plvmb tools.... would anybody be able to tell me why my plvmb 3/8 pebble breaker is marked plvmb on one side but prvtv on the other? Tool 5265

 

[drivesitfar]

SP: i'd like to know for sure too, but i'll take a stab at it for you. Plvmb was ok doing business with that name until they started making and selling hammers and PLOMB that was a company before PLVMB sued Plvmb to change it's name. they won so Plvmb became PROfessional TOols or PROTO and they must have had the o's all as v's still in the tool room.

so to answer your question i bet your wrench was made about the time the lawsuit was in progress and maybe PLVMB already knew they might lose.

start with one little key chain screwdriver and then find another but i do like your positive attitude that they are easy to find. i can't recall how much they are on EBAY, but i think you might be able to find one or a few on there.

 

[Swingpress]

SP: i'd like to know for sure too, but i'll take a stab at it for you. Plvmb was ok doing business with that name until they started making and selling hammers and PLOMB that was a company before PLVMB sued Plvmb to change it's name. they won so Plvmb became PROfessional TOols or PROTO and they must have had the o's all as v's still in the tool room.



so to answer your question i bet your wrench was made about the time the lawsuit was in progress and maybe PLVMB already knew they might lose.



start with one little key chain screwdriver and then find another but i do like your positive attitude that they are easy to find. i can't recall how much they are on EBAY, but i think you might be able to find one or a few on there.

Thanks for the info! I have only been a few months in to paying any attention to plvmb tools lol. I usually hunt for other things at all of the sales and auctions I go to. It seems like I was always coming across this stuff by the handful (still do to some extent) and unfortunately have tossed aside plomb stuff to get to the snapon stuff laying underneath it lol. Live and learn!

 

[oldmantaylor]

To my knowledge that dual marking was only used in 1948.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I have never seen a distributor wrench(not that that means much), until I owned one! Lol

Now you have to buy a car with a distributor

To my knowledge that dual marking was only used in 1948.

It seems to have been specifically allowed in the settlement.

 

[oldmantaylor]

No, it was not allowed. The Plomb name should not have been used. Plumb sued again and the logo changed in 1949.

 

[d42jeep]

Here are my Proto and Plomb wood handled screwdrivers.
-Don

 

[Provincial]

Now you have to buy a car with a distributor

But the distributor has to have a clamping bolt with a 31/64 hex head! (see the photo in post #2382)

 

[Sam'sAutoParts]

Here are my Proto and Plomb wood handled screwdrivers.

-Don

Those are some beautiful examples!!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Here are my plomb drivers on my tool boards... They are either wood handle or the newer plastic



These are the smaller ones


Proto l.a. Drivers


p&c drivers




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[Smokeshow69]

Here are my plomb drivers on my tool boards... They are either wood handle or the newer plastic



These are the smaller ones


Proto l.a. Drivers


p&c drivers




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Sorry , I forgot one [emoji41]... I have found the screw drivers to actually be somewhat hard to find because people abused them over the years and destroyed them... I have trained my eye to look for the amber colored driver handles whenever I am looking for used tools!



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[Ole Slewfoot]

No, it was not allowed. The Plomb name should not have been used. Plumb sued again and the logo changed in 1949.

Maybe is was just the advertising that was allowed to mention both names?

 

[twertsy]

Maybe is was just the advertising that was allowed to mention both names?

As near as I can tell, they used the dual marking from March to December of 1948. During the first week of December of '48, when the final trademark violation ruling was made for Plumb Tool Co. and against Plomb Tool Co., Pendleton shut down the entire production for 6 weeks to re-tool for the new Trademark (Proto).

So, it "appears" these dual marked tools were only produced for 9 months, between the first court decision in March, and the final ruling in December.