Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[r_olson_06]

Plomb Wall Update:

Here is some more uniques. Starting with a complete Plomb spark plugs set in the orginal case. As some of you may remember that Lugz found one early this year with his insane Firestone haul. It does have a unique socket or adapter with a what appears to be a pin spanner on top? Catalog give some details about it but not much. It is something for a 10mm socket spline adpater. Thanks to Lugz for finding the catalog reference that alluded me. If anyone could explain how this would work it would be greatly appreciated.

Also a rare Plomb 5448 teardrop on/off ratchet with the orginal plug.

A chrome WF 36 extension. A first for me on a WF chrome. Could leave it behind for $2.50.

Also thanks to a trade with Dan, I have added 1 more shallow 6pt impact socket to the wall. This is #3 if the impact shallows.

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[Outlawmws]

Very cool and a bit surprised to see them as a catalog item, but being 1929, and very early in he evolution of sockets, that makes more sense.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

As some of you may remember that Lugz found one early this year with his insane Firestone haul. It does have a unique socket or adapter with a what appears to be a pin spanner on top? Catalog give some details about it but not much. It is something for a 10mm socket spline adapter. Thanks to Lugz for finding the catalog reference that eluded me. If anyone could explain how this would work it would be greatly appreciated.

I liked your email description of the adapter as the "castle top" socket!

Here is mine again...

Please measure your box, Roy. Mine is 9-3/4" x 3-1/2" deep or front to back x 1-5/8" high and, as you can see, it has a compartment. If you recall there was a sliding tee and a flex head in there when I got it, but neither of those handles came with the 5200SPA special spark plug socket set. It only came with a pin handle. A pin handle will certainly fit there, as you can see. (I have taken the other handles out and replaced it with an orphan crossbar I had in stock. Not an actual Plomb-marked pin handle.) Your box is a little different. Where would the pin handle go? And what is that little corner compartment all about? (EDIT: Wait, is your box the same and the compartment tray wall is squished up against the back of the box?) Hence my interest in more info and measurements. I am wondering which box is legit, or maybe both are at different times. ??

Here are the pertinent catalog excerpts for these sets… Unfortunately, not a very good view of the box with the sockets propped up the way they are in the figure!

1941 Page 15

1941 Page 34

 

[Private Lugnutz]

BTW, Roy, if you're wondering and haven't measured yet, the holes and pin-handle/cross bar are 5/16" diameter.

EDIT: Also, and this is really weird, we're both missing the same socket! 5026SP, 13/16". The race is on! HAHA.

 

[r_olson_06]

I liked your email description of the adapter as the "castle top" socket! [emoji106]

Here is mine again...

Please measure your box, Roy. Mine is 9-3/4" x 3-1/2" deep or front to back x 1-5/8" high and, as you can see, it has a compartment. If you recall there was a sliding tee and a flex head in there when I got it, but neither of those handles came with the 5200SPA special spark plug socket set. It only came with a pin handle. A pin handle will certainly fit there, as you can see. (I have taken the other handles out and replaced it with an orphan crossbar I had in stock. Not an actual Plomb-marked pin handle.) Your box is a little different. Where would the pin handle go? And what is that little corner compartment all about? (EDIT: Wait, is your box the same and the compartment tray wall is squished up against the back of the box?) Hence my interest in more info and measurements. I am wondering which box is legit, or maybe both are at different times. ??

Here are the pertinent catalog excerpts for these sets… Unfortunately, not a very good view of the box with the sockets propped up the way they are in the figure!

1941 Page 15

1941 Page 34

It is the exact same measurements. Thanks for the photo of yours I see my tray is bent and the spot weld is broke.

BTW, Roy, if you're wondering and haven't measured yet, the holes and pin-handle/cross bar are 5/16" diameter.

EDIT: Also, and this is really weird, we're both missing the same socket! 5026SP, 13/16". The race is on! HAHA.

Ready, Set, HEY LOOK OVER THERE! as I kick you in the shin [emoji1].

Very odd we are missing the same socket but that seems to be the most common spark plugs size IHMO so they have broke.

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[RubiconJK]

Plomb Wall Update:

Here is some more uniques. Starting with a complete Plomb spark plugs set in the orginal case. As some of you may remember that Lugz found one early this year with his insane Firestone haul. It does have a unique socket or adapter with a what appears to be a pin spanner on top? Catalog give some details about it but not much. It is something for a 10mm socket spline adpater. Thanks to Lugz for finding the catalog reference that alluded me. If anyone could explain how this would work it would be greatly appreciated.

Also a rare Plomb 5448 teardrop on/off ratchet with the orginal plug.

A chrome WF 36 extension. A first for me on a WF chrome. Could leave it behind for $2.50.

Also thanks to a trade with Dan, I have added 1 more shallow 6pt impact socket to the wall. This is #3 if the impact shallows.

Congrats Roy! Cool set.

 

[RubiconJK]

Now that is a cool purchase. What is the diameter of the pin handle hole? And how long do you reckon it is? Based on the figure and it being about half the length of the 18" shanks of the wrenches, I'd say ~9 inches. I may have something that could suffice as a stand-in if you don't.

Lugz, the hole diameter is 3/8". I'm guessing length might be just a bit shorter than 9"...maybe 7.5" or so just looking at the catalog pic for scale.

Ok, here is the story from the seller. Seller is a retired A&P mechanic in CA. He got these from another retired mechanic from Lockheed Aircraft in Burbank. The story he was told from the Lockheed mechanic was that he had used them while servicing Lockheed 1049 Super Constellation aircraft and Wright R-3350 engines. So while its a cool story, these wrenches would have probably already have been 20+ years old by the time the 1049 showed up. (Unveiled in 1951 per the Lockheed Martin website). Some of you guys who are more familiar with early aircraft may have additional input.

 

[RubiconJK]

Added a 1/2" drive t-bar to my Craftsman Circle U set originally shown here.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7871966&postcount=6426

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Lugz, the hole diameter is 3/8". I'm guessing length might be just a bit shorter than 9"...maybe 7.5" or so just looking at the catalog pic for scale.

I've got a few 3/8" cross bars if you need one. Unless you want to hold out for an actual pin handle. Lemme know. Second, third, fourth, and fifth from the top. Third and fourth have no ball stop.

 

[RubiconJK]

I've got a few 3/8" cross bars if you need one. Unless you want to hold out for an actual pin handle. Lemme know. Second, third, fourth, and fifth from the top. Third and fourth have no ball stop.

Thank you. I may take you up on that. No hurry, lets just wait until maybe we will have more to bundle up in a trade sometime later.

 

[mustangSR70]

Here's something I have had in my collection for awhile, a group photo from the 1935 A.S.I. Show in Atlantic City in front of what looks like their display at some kind of trade show, I'm thinking. This is an original photo from the time, not a reprint.
I just can't help but drool over all those brand new Plomb L.A. tools, and the 9999 Master Tool Chest in the lower left corner.

 

[r_olson_06]

Here's something I have had in my collection for awhile, a group photo from the 1935 A.S.I. Show in Atlantic City in front of what looks like their display at some kind of trade show, I'm thinking. This is an original photo from the time, not a reprint.
I just can't help but drool over all those brand new Plomb L.A. tools, and the 9999 Master Tool Chest in the lower left corner.

That is an amazing photo. Thank you for sharing. How did you end up with this photo? One of those things to the average person it is worth nothing but to the right person it is priceless.

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[JoCoSawdust]

Here's something I have had in my collection for awhile, a group photo from the 1935 A.S.I. Show in Atlantic City in front of what looks like their display at some kind of trade show, I'm thinking. This is an original photo from the time, not a reprint.
I just can't help but drool over all those brand new Plomb L.A. tools, and the 9999 Master Tool Chest in the lower left corner.

Incredible photo! Now THAT'S a tool board!!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

How did you date the photo and identify the event? It's interesting that they shipped a couple PLOMB displays and a PLVMB display. It's not unusual. Maybe even typical. You will find both logos in the mid 1930's catalogs and marketing material until they finally fully discarded the old one.

 

[mustangSR70]

If you look at the very bottom of the photo right in the center it says 1935. It's actually written in the photo, not written by hand on the paper. I actually got it off eBay about a year ago

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I was so focused on the inscription on the bottom right I completely missed that! Thanks.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Wow that is an awesome photo!

 

[Provincial]

r olson 06, your PM mailbox is full!

Upon looking closely at the catalog listing for the 5240, and looking at an AC 104 spark plug currently on ebay, I am convinced that the 5240 is intended to remove/install an adapter that takes 10mm threaded spark plugs, rather than the spark plug itself.

I wonder if the adapter was designed to reduce the size of standard spark plug threads to accomodate the 10mm threaded plugs, rather than be an insert originally designed into the cylinder head. I suspect that this was the case, and somewhere out there will be advertising (probably from AC Spark Plug) that confirms this.

I also suspect that these 5240 tools are quite rare, since 10mm spark plugs were so uncommon back then!

 

[d42jeep]

I’m finally finished with my efforts in cleaning up the Plomb NAF combo. It’s never going to look like new.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

Added a 1/2" drive t-bar to my Craftsman Circle U set originally shown here.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7871966&postcount=6426

If you are looking to add more pieces to that set, I found a cad plated 1-1/16” Circle U socket that might fit in.
-Don

 

[r_olson_06]

r olson 06, your PM mailbox is full!

Upon looking closely at the catalog listing for the 5240, and looking at an AC 104 spark plug currently on ebay, I am convinced that the 5240 is intended to remove/install an adapter that takes 10mm threaded spark plugs, rather than the spark plug itself.

I wonder if the adapter was designed to reduce the size of standard spark plug threads to accomodate the 10mm threaded plugs, rather than be an insert originally designed into the cylinder head. I suspect that this was the case, and somewhere out there will be advertising (probably from AC Spark Plug) that confirms this.

I also suspect that these 5240 tools are quite rare, since 10mm spark plugs were so uncommon back then!

Thank you. I will see what I can come up with. This makes way more sense then what I was thinking.

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[Private Lugnutz]

I also suspect that these 5240 tools are quite rare...

I can confirm that part!

 

[r_olson_06]

I can confirm that part!

The 13/16" appears to be even more elusive.

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[Private Lugnutz]

The 13/16" appears to be even more elusive.

Right? If just one more collector shows up with a 5200SPA set, and the 13/16" is missing, we would not be imprudent in thinking something is amiss between catalog and production! Although I suspect it's just a strange coincidence.

 

[Outlawmws]

If its a spark plug socket, that is the issue for two reasons: Those get separated from the sets and put in to the "truck box", and since they are spark plug sockets they tend to be thinner and get busted...

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Roy and I each have the special spark plug set, see last page for cat excerpts, eight sockets in the set from 9/16" to 1-1/8". The joke is both sets are missing the same socket - the 13/16".

 

[Outlawmws]

IMO same deal. for decades 13/16 was the go to size for most spark plugs. The others were relatively rare, until "peanut 'lugs" (what we called them on race car heads) became popular.

 

[RubiconJK]

If you are looking to add more pieces to that set, I found a cad plated 1-1/16” Circle U socket that might fit in.
-Don

Thanks for the offer Don but mine are all of the more typical knurled design. I think yours could be pretty rare as its the first Circle U I've seen like that resembling more of the WF Plomb sockets. BTW, I also added a 1 1/8" knurled Circle U recently to this set.

 

[r_olson_06]

If you are looking to add more pieces to that set, I found a cad plated 1-1/16” Circle U socket that might fit in.
-Don

I have the exact same size and style. Odd!

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[Private Lugnutz]

It's certainly possible that both sets survived the war and the next generation intact and then only the 13/16" sockets were scavenged for the same reason, Outlaw. In my experience, though, WWII sets either stay together more or less intact, in the hands of someone who recognizes the importance of keeping them more or less intact, or they get completely broken up, ruined, tossed, or lost. I still think it's noteworthy that both sets are only missing that socket. But it will be interesting to see the situation develop further.

 

[MR.X]

I was lucky enough to nab a BIN online the other night for this unusual set of "universal socket wrenches". All are round "O" Los Angeles with 1929 date codes and 18" long. I included the excerpt about these wrenches from the 1929 catalog. Note that these are cross bar operated only. Set includes:
Plomb Los Angeles P11, 7/16 inch
Plomb Los Angeles P12, 1/2 inch
Plomb Los Angeles P13, 9/16 inch
Plomb Los Angeles P14, 5/8 inch
Plomb Los Angeles P15, 11/16 inch
Plomb Los Angeles P16, 3/4 inch

Killer find.

 

[Username already in use]

Plomb finds from last weekend.
The Ford brake wrench is my first round O Plomb find.
The 6in combo is a grind off. And another dual marked PRVTV/PLVMB combo.

 

[r_olson_06]

Plomb finds from last weekend.
The Ford brake wrench is my first round O Plomb find.
The 6in combo is a grind off. And another dual marked PRVTV/PLVMB combo. [emoji106]

Nicely done. The 4pt in the one side seem to be more rare. A fine assortment of Plombs.

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[r_olson_06]

My DXR12 Plomb has finally gotten a donor plug thanks to a fellow GJ member. I seen that a set of DX Chain Link Sockets sold yesterday. I hopefully some lucky GJ member picked them up.

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[ssdave]

Roy posted this picture of Plomb ignition pliers a while back, looks like #9235:

I found my two pair, they are numbered No. 235 and 2039.

Both different than Roy's, although his might be close to the same as my No. 235; hard to tell with the photo's.

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

That 2039 pair is pretty neat Dave. Kind of the original name knurl without the pebble background. I don't think I've seen that before. Ed.

 

[r_olson_06]

Roy posted this picture of Plomb ignition pliers a while back, looks like #9235:

I found my two pair, they are numbered No. 235 and 2039.

Both different than Roy's, although his might be close to the same as my No. 235; hard to tell with the photo's.

Those look amazing. I have never seen those before.

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[r_olson_06]

Another rare wrench! Another Plomb Metric wrench added to the wall. A dual marked 16mm X 17mm DOE.

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[leg17]

If its a spark plug socket, that is the issue for two reasons: Those get separated from the sets and put in to the "truck box", and since they are spark plug sockets they tend to be thinner and get busted...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[RubiconJK]

Another rare wrench! Another Plomb Metric wrench added to the wall. A dual marked 16mm X 17mm DOE.

Nice congrats! Never seen one and this one is dual marked! Seems like I've read these metric wrenches were made late in the life cycle, so are most found all dual marked?