Plomb tool picture thread - show your stuff!

[tym]

Thanks guys for letting me know that Proto's parts for my old Plvmb long handled ratchet are available.

Smoke: good to know that my ratchet is a 1/2 inch (it did look smaller, but I do have a bunch of washers that might have come off a battleship next to it).

BMW: thanks and only reason I asked is because one of the screws has been replaced at some time with one that is about 1/4 inch too long so it sticks out. once I clean it up i'll post up a few pics, but in the middle of a fence and new deck project now that our PNW rain has stopped for a few months.

Mr. X: I've never seen a tool holder like that with Plvmb's name on it and nice to know you now have 2. great find and one thing I know for certain is you CAN'T **** YOURSELF.

great score though.

What's the thread pitch, head style, and length of the screw you need? I may have something suitable in the stash.

 

[drivesitfar]

Tym: sorry the rusty batch of tools I found ended up in a box and is in storage at the minute so not close to measure. i'm also in the process of setting up a grinder/buffer station on top of this old military cabinet and I need to grab another grinder i've stored in my 88 year old parent's basement (setting up a woodshop there so I can keep an eye on them and have something to do while i'm there).

thanks for the offer and when I get things ready to DERUST more than a few things I'll know more.

have all of you seen the RUST REMOVAL THREAD and seen what a 3M RADIAL on a bench grinder can do especially after an evaporust soak? take a look!!

 

[tym]

Tym: sorry the rusty batch of tools I found ended up in a box and is in storage at the minute so not close to measure. i'm also in the process of setting up a grinder/buffer station on top of this old military cabinet and I need to grab another grinder i've stored in my 88 year old parent's basement (setting up a woodshop there so I can keep an eye on them and have something to do while i'm there).

thanks for the offer and when I get things ready to DERUST more than a few things I'll know more.

No worries. Just shoot me a PM when the time comes and I'll check what I have. I bought some oddball sizes to replace stripped cover plate screws on some of my ratchets.

 

[MR.X]

Awesome find!

Thanks.

Mr. X: I've never seen a tool holder like that with Plvmb's name on it and nice to know you now have 2. great find and one thing I know for certain is you CAN'T **** YOURSELF.

great score though.

Thanks.

 

[Provincial]

Mr. X rates a **** for the Plomb tool carrier. But this isn't the garage sale thread!

 

[Catfishdan]

I was pretty stoked to find this in a box of junk tools someone gave me yesterday. I had a 4738 in my big midget set, but it was all ground down. This one is pretty clean.

 

[Smokeshow69]

So just scored this tool caddy from a farm auction.It was full of random sockets and ratchets including a few decent LA sockets and a breaker that cleaned up well. Significantly it had both 5497 1/2" & 5297 3/8" Plomb socket rails attached. The second pic is the one I already had which is slightly different as it has the Plomb embossing on the floor of the tray as well as the sides. whereas the latest one has it only on both sides. Last pic is better shot of rails detached. winning bid was $27.50 if anyone is trying to determine degree of suckage.

Mad suckage awarded Yours doesnt look like it was run over by a backhoe like mine looked when I found mine. Plus yours comes with the cool and uncommon socket rail! Nice pull. I saw some cool spy shots from Gary Powers during the acquisition mission and the socket rails looked like they were a part of the tray. Yes, saying you **** would be an understatement . Are both of your trays the same height ? Mine is 6.75 tall from bottom to tallest point on the triangle.

 

[MR.X]

Mad suckage awarded Yours doesnt look like it was run over by a backhoe like mine looked when I found mine. Plus yours comes with the cool and uncommon socket rail! Nice pull. I saw some cool spy shots from Gary Powers during the acquisition mission and the socket rails looked like they were a part of the tray. Yes, saying you **** would be an understatement . Are both of your trays the same height ? Mine is 6.75 tall from bottom to tallest point on the triangle.

Gary powers reference?, was not expecting one of those today... man, bet that flies over the head of your peers. Anyway, yeah, 6 3/4 on both. I have a pic of one of those type of rails with the Plomb sticker still on it if you ever come across one and need ID confirmation.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Gary powers reference?, was not expecting one of those today... man, bet that flies over the head of your peers. Anyway, yeah, 6 3/4 on both. I have a pic of one of those type of rails with the Plomb sticker still on it if you ever come across one and need ID confirmation.

True that, most dont know who that guy was in this day and age I have never found one of those rails in the wild but sure as heck would love to. Can you post a picture of your rail with the sticker now? I am sure everyone would love to see it ??

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

The Spy Plane Pilot?


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[Smokeshow69]

The Spy Plane Pilot?


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Yes correct... a fellow forum member sent me photos of this tray prior to it being posted hence the spy plane reconnaissance reference

 

[MR.X]

True that, most dont know who that guy was in this day and age I have never found one of those rails in the wild but sure as heck would love to. Can you post a picture of your rail with the sticker now? I am sure everyone would love to see it ??

OK, these are from my phone.

 

[AK4570]

Question for you all: Have you ever run into a Plomb 5295 box (3/8 drive) without the Plomb Tool Co stamp/embossing in the lid? I've got a line on a box that dimensionally and internally looks identical, but without the lid stamp to which I am accustomed.

Thoughts?

And thank you in advance.
John

 

[Catfishdan]

Question for you all: Have you ever run into a Plomb 5295 box (3/8 drive) without the Plomb Tool Co stamp/embossing in the lid? I've got a line on a box that dimensionally and internally looks identical, but without the lid stamp to which I am accustomed.

Thoughts?

And thank you in advance.
John

Some of them had the logo and part number painted on with no embossing. Later models I believe.

 

[Provincial]

I have what I believe is a late Plomb box that is filled with WF 3/8 drive stuff. I think it may be a post-War kit sold outside of normal distribution. The latch is distinctive.

 

[AK4570]

The box I'm looking at has square corners, latch, carry-handle, and the internal dividers that I would normally expect to see in a pre-war box only without the embossing on the lid. It won't be til the end of next week that I will (hopefully) be able to lay hands on it again, but I'll grab pictures if he still has it... Heck, for the $7 he's asking, I'll pick it up regardless if it's still there.

Thanks, Gents.

 

[Mintgrun]

This old THORSEN box has latches that appear to be similar to the one on that PLOMB box.

Tom

 

[RagTopTA]

So just scored this tool caddy from a farm auction.It was full of random sockets and ratchets including a few decent LA sockets and a breaker that cleaned up well. Significantly it had both 5497 1/2" & 5297 3/8" Plomb socket rails attached. The second pic is the one I already had which is slightly different as it has the Plomb embossing on the floor of the tray as well as the sides. whereas the latest one has it only on both sides. Last pic is better shot of rails detached. winning bid was $27.50 if anyone is trying to determine degree of suckage.

*Hands Mr. X an entire case of straws..... that's an awesome find! I gotta join the Plomb Tool Tote Club asap!!!

 

[drivesitfar]

Mr. X: does that rail fit nicely inside a Plvmb toolbox and which one? thanks again for posting up more of your cool finds!!

 

[AK4570]

One candidate it will fit is the 5495 1/2 drive case.

There’s one peeking out from under a set of sockets here... but I’ll leave it to the more knowledgeable on what else it might fit

V/r,
John




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[Oldtuleguy]

Here is that latch on a crescent set.

I have what I believe is a late Plomb box that is filled with WF 3/8 drive stuff. I think it may be a post-War kit sold outside of normal distribution. The latch is distinctive.

 

[d42jeep]

I received an eBay Plomb lot yesterday. It was reasonably priced and had a few pieces that I could use. I particularly liked the little bolt extractor.

 

[c1504]

Here is that latch on a crescent set.

Is that a dual marked box?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yes got it out to see the latch but does not have one

 

[c1504]

Very cool. The color scheme is interesting

 

[AK4570]

OTG, that is an amazing box!

On a related note, I wonder how difficult it would be to curate a collection of the Plomb/Plvmb/Proto box logos for those of us that are restoring some of these wonderful pieces of history. I've seen the Plvmb blacksmith logos available on the "bay" but it would be nice to have all of them in electronic form in a centrally available location... maybe I'm just dreaming here.

At any rate, thank you again for sharing the pictures of that box.

V/r,
John

 

[Shelbylex]

OTG, I never saw PLVMB PROTO emblem. Nice box!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Anytime AK! Shelby I think only one year, maybe 49.

 

[AK4570]

Well, shoot... looks like I just volunteered myself. OTG, if you can take a picture of that logo as squarely as possible, I’ll take a stab at getting it converted into a vector.

Thanks again,
John


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[AK4570]

If anyone has any of the other Plomb/Plomb/Proto logos of yesteryear, feel free to toss them up as well. If I can produce something worthwhile (doubtful, but worth a shot), I’ll post the images in this thread.

V/r,
John


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[Shelbylex]

Thank you, OTG. Good to know - I have one double stamped wrench - now I know how old it is...

 

[JjKk40]

That is a Neilson or Neilson style latch that I see on many different brands boxes. Theyre still in business in CT.

 

[Smokeshow69]

OK, these are from my phone.

Heck X....that is amazing! Not only are those very hard to find but it has the tag on it. Nice find.

*Hands Mr. X an entire case of straws..... that's an awesome find! I gotta join the Plomb Tool Tote Club asap!!!

Yes, Mr.X inhales profusely And yes, you need to join the club! I use mine all the time. It is quite useful.

 

[RagTopTA]

Yes got it out to see the latch but does not have one

I have that same box and am going to try to make a transition set. I have sev pieces in my plomb stuff already. Just gotta sort it out.

Heck X....that is amazing! Not only are those very hard to find but it has the tag on it. Nice find.

Yes, Mr.X inhales profusely And yes, you need to join the club! I use mine all the time. It is quite useful.

I want in dang it!!! Keep your eyes open for another one! Found 2 dif ones a while back in an online collection for sale but couldnt get any emails back.

 

[Smokeshow69]

I have that same box and am going to try to make a transition set. I have sev pieces in my plomb stuff already. Just gotta sort it out.

I want in dang it!!! Keep your eyes open for another one! Found 2 dif ones a while back in an online collection for sale but couldnt get any emails back.

Yes, I am quite aware of your transitional box....I was the other bidder who accidently ran you up on the auction because I didn't know it was you I am always keeping an eye out for those totes but they dont surface often... Mr.X has 2 ( has possibly had and sold another?) and I have one... so that's about 3 known here on GJ and you know there is some top shelf stuff on here. I don't go over to the other site so I don't know if there is anyone on there who has one?

 

[RagTopTA]

I dont go there either. I cant keep up with one let alone 2. I like the company here anyways! Ill find one eventually! Any you might could make a transition logo and make you a box til the next one comes along! Wonder if there are any transition tool mobiles out there?

 

[Smokeshow69]

I dont go there either. I cant keep up with one let alone 2. I like the company here anyways! Ill find one eventually! Any you might could make a transition logo and make you a box til the next one comes along! Wonder if there are any transition tool mobiles out there?

I believe old man taylor has a transitional stickered tool mobile....but don't quote me on that.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Just as a reminder, those so-called "Transitional" toolboxes with dual-marked stickers might could be as early as mid- to late-1948. They would not have dual-marked tools in them yet, but Plomb was granted the PRVTV TM in July 1948 and it was explicitly registered for packaging, decals stickers, etc. They started the PRVTV BY PLVMB ad campaign in October 1948 expressly thinking that plastering everything external with the new PRVTV name would assuage Fayette R. Plumb nd they wouldn't have to change dies. It did not work. They were sued, again, in December 1948, and two weeks later, they applied for a different PRVTV TM, this time saying it would be used on tools, too. Their last ditch (and it has to be said, stubborn) plan to keep the PLVMB name on tools, with the dual-marked initiative, was launched in January 1949, and they were promptly sued, and lost, for the last time. So, tools, almost certainly 1949 only. Stickers and other paper versions of the dual TM could be mid to late 1948.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Just as a reminder, those so-called "Transitional" toolboxes with dual-marked stickers might could be as early as mid- to late-1948. They would not have dual-marked tools in them yet, but Plomb was granted the PRVTV TM in July 1948 and it was explicitly registered for packaging, decals stickers, etc. They started the PRVTV BY PLVMB ad campaign in October 1948 expressly thinking that plastering everything external with the new PRVTV name would assuage Fayette R. Plumb nd they wouldn't have to change dies. It did not work. They were sued, again, in December 1948, and two weeks later, they applied for a different PRVTV TM, this time saying it would be used on tools, too. Their last ditch (and it has to be said, stubborn) plan to keep the PLVMB name on tools, with the dual-marked initiative, was launched in January 1949, and they were promptly sued, and lost, for the last time. So, tools, almost certainly 1949 only. Stickers and other paper versions of the dual TM could be mid to late 1948.

Such a good write up Lugz! I know you took a deep dive into the timeline on your other thread that covers this in much more detail. Thanks for helping the collecting community out with many hours of research!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Speaking of Transitional tools...check out this add from during that time period! You can see the PRVTV by PLVMB logos on the tool boards! Has anyone ever seen a transitional tool board ? I have a feeling PLVMB sent the dealers stickers to put over the PLVMB logo as opposed to just issuing new boards... ***Also , look at the date at the bottom of the page, December 1948** I need some of these boards for my dual marked/transitional marked wrenches!