POR 15 floor epoxy

[Dave88LX]

I know that POR-15 makes some kick-*** products for metal, so hopefully this flooring product will be just as good.

Does anyone have any information how this stuff holds up over time? I'm guessing not though since it's so new?

 

[Value]

Update:

THe second coat of clear is down. I applied a few more flakes to some "dead spots" since I am putting on a third coat of clear later today with the anti-slip media mixed into the clear.

For you info. the clear dried FAST as well and I lost 1/4 gallon to the Florida heat. The clear became rubber in about one hour after activation but fortunately I have more than enough for the third coat. I predict I will end up with 0.5 gallons of clear left over.

I took pictures today and will post when I figure out how to do it.

I recommend the CLEAR COAT- at least one coat. Remember, a gallon covers almost 600 sq. feet so spring for at least one gallon on top of the basic kit.

I really like the EXTRA flakes and used 3.75 bottles instead of the recommended three. This gave the floor a better look and hid many more imperfections. That plus the measuring buckets from Lowe's made a huge difference.

Value

 

[Value]

TIP:

When applying the Clear Coat wear a clean pair of HEAVY white Socks (must be pure white) like Thor-lo or equivalent. I wore blue socks and spent 30 minutes removing the blue from the clear using the paint remover hand wipes. Perhaps, the plastic shoes would work as well. The pro's wear shoes with spikes on them. I know for me the thick white socks worked out well.

You should purchase two containers of painter's hand wipes from Lowe's $3.98 each. They are useful to wipe your hands, remove product, etc. Well worth the money.

Value

 

[Value]

Attempting to post pictures:

 

[shocksystems]

Attempting to post pictures:

Looks great

Cheers!

Jim

 

[Value]

Another picture:

 

[scotw]

Is this product compatible with quartz crystals?

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/...nMz0vM0Q9KzYsPDdaP0I8yizeINzUN0S_IcFQEAABpIh8!

 

[Value]

Final Update:

Project complete late today. Here is what I did over the past few days:

1. Empty Garage
2. Sand Floor/get off a lot of Old water based Epoxy with Diamond Sander
3. Clean floor/sweep/degrease
4. Sand edges, old remaining epoxy with 80 grit sandpaper
5. Two Coats of Base POR-15 in Tan or Beige (my wife thinks it was beige but the factory color stamped on the lid said Tan)
6. One Coat of Clear then vinyl chips
7. Two More Coats of Clear with antislip material in the last coat
8. Wait 24 hours then bring my stuff in to the garage
9. Wait 72 hours then bring my cars in to the garage

 

[Value]

OKay,

The project was tough but I had NO RAIN and I saved a bundle over www.flexmarcoatings.com I was quoted over $6,000 by my local Flexmar dealer for the floor and I don't think you get as many clear coats.

Value

 

[shocksystems]

OKay,

The project was tough but I had NO RAIN and I saved a bundle over www.flexmarcoatings.com I was quoted over $6,000 by my local Flexmar dealer for the floor and I don't think you get as many clear coats.

Value

Congratulations. How effective is the anti slip additive? Can you tell yet?

Cheers!

Jim

 

[BreBar21]

I also haven't had rain in mine either, but the anti-slip aggregate gives it a texture. And just from walking on it, I think it'll work well.

 

[toms73novass]

I also haven't had rain in mine either, but the anti-slip aggregate gives it a texture. And just from walking on it, I think it'll work well.

With the anti-slip would it be more difficult to sweep/clean the floor?

 

[BreBar21]

I doubt it. The aggregate is probably the same size/consistency as sea salt. I don't think it would cause any change outside of its intended purpose.

 

[KnightFire]

TIP:

When applying the Clear Coat wear a clean pair of HEAVY white Socks (must be pure white) like Thor-lo or equivalent. I wore blue socks and spent 30 minutes removing the blue from the clear using the paint remover hand wipes. Perhaps, the plastic shoes would work as well. The pro's wear shoes with spikes on them. I know for me the thick white socks worked out well.

You should purchase two containers of painter's hand wipes from Lowe's $3.98 each. They are useful to wipe your hands, remove product, etc. Well worth the money.

Value

Ok, this has me confused, what are you needing socks/plastic shoes for? Are you actually walking on the wet paint? I would think that even spiked shoes would leave dimples in the new flooring...help me to understand! LOL

 

[Value]

Ok, this has me confused, what are you needing socks/plastic shoes for? Are you actually walking on the wet paint? I would think that even spiked shoes would leave dimples in the new flooring...help me to understand! LOL

The BASE COAT is the actual paint. You can clearly see this material. There are two coats of PAINT.

The next two-three coats (three in my case) are a CLEAR polyurethane protective coat (it dries like clear rubber). So, when you are applying it there is a chance that you may NOT see the application line and step on some "sticky" clear coat. This just means you apply it again over that spot.
You WON'T see any foot markes when it is wet; however, if you walk on the clear when it is drying(after about 60-90 minutes) you will see foot prints.

So, for those of us amateurs I would wear the socks (thick, ALL WHITE) or some other material which won't discolor the clear coat.

 

[Birdman]

Hey, if you guys want to save 5% on the POR-15 stuff, put in the promo code patriotdream when you check out at http://www.stoprust.net

They are giving 5% off and a 10% donation to the PatriotDream.org project. I saw this thread and just thought I'd give you guys a heads up if you wanted to save a few bucks.

 

[Value]

I wanted to tell you guys that POR 15 Depot was easy to deal with. But, my order got screwed up at least once maybe twice. I highly recommend a COLOR chart prior to purchasing this product.

I ordered TWO DELUXE kits 800 Sq. foot and 400 sq. foot. The factory sent NO POR 15 PAINT (missing 6 gallons and activator) and shorted me activator for the CLEAR. IN addition, I got the wrong color flakes.

POR 15 Depot tried to help. The factory sent me the product supposedly in TAN. But, I ordered one gallon extra from POR 15 Depot just in case. The colors did not match despite the LABELS on the cans stating TAN. Fortunately, the factory color of BEIGE (they screwed up the color/mislabeled the can) was acceptable to my wife. Or, I would need to wait another week (that is three weeks from the initial order) to get the correct product.

POR 15 Depot has agreed to let me return the REAL GALLON of TAN for a refund. I will let you know if they honor their word.

The product seems sound but the factory makes MISTAKES. Verify your color on a color chart and check every can PRIOR to starting the project/cleaning out your garage.

Value

 

[SteveL]

I'm still waiting to recieve the actual samples of the grey colors that Dave promised a couple of weeks ago. There is no way that I would order close to $1000 worth of product without seeing a sample first. There are hundreds of different greys in the world, some cool and some warm toned, and I've allready picked out the other wall paints, ceramic tiles, colored flakes, etc that will be used with this.

The three other companies I'm looking at all sent samples in less than a week. My concern is now that there is a price increase in three weeks and if I don't get samples in time, I will probably choose a different brand. I really want to get my floor done in September before the weather turns crappy.

 

[Value]

I'm still waiting to recieve the actual samples of the grey colors that Dave promised a couple of weeks ago. There is no way that I would order close to $1000 worth of product without seeing a sample first. There are hundreds of different greys in the world, some cool and some warm toned, and I've allready picked out the other wall paints, ceramic tiles, colored flakes, etc that will be used with this.

The three other companies I'm looking at all sent samples in less than a week. My concern is now that there is a price increase in three weeks and if I don't get samples in time, I will probably choose a different brand. I really want to get my floor done in September before the weather turns crappy.

Tonight,

My cars are back in the garage Despite my inability to get off all the old epoxy the final result looks good (B) instead on an A. I am a hard grader because my family loves the new look

Would I use/recommend this product? Yes, but CHECK the order and color THOROUGHLY and leave time for this step. Don't start until you VERIFY the color and the order.

I am happy with the BEIGE because my garage floor area looks even larger than with a darker color. The Anti-slip compound does work and does not hinder sweeping or mopping the floor.

I am anxiously awaiting my $147 refund from POR 15 Depot. I will post again when I receive it.

I bet if you CALL POR 15 Depot and ask for a 5% discount after the price increase you will get it. Especially, if you need the COLOR chart (I HIGHLY recommend this step otherwise you won't know if the factory screwed up) prior to ordering product.

I waited 72 hours until parking my cars. I worked hard and spent too much money (about $2500 total) on the project for any foolish "disobedience" of the directions.

 

[slammer]

Hey Dave,

Can you post up the colours of the floor coatings, and also the chips?

Cheers Angelo

 

[toms73novass]

I talked with Chris today at POR15 Depot and he said that he was making up samples and was going to ship out tomorrow to those that have requested them. We will see, I will not order with out samples that I can see and I am ready to order!

 

[fordman]

what if your floor has been painted before

 

[SteveL]

You will need to scuff the surface up by sanding or grinding to give the new coating something to grab on to. I've got the same situation in 2/3 of my garage and plan on renting a large floor sander to most of it and a randon orbital sander for the edges and corners. You also need to make sure the the old coating is bonded well. If there is any loose areas, the new coating won't stick.

 

[Value]

POR 15 is the BEST DIY product on the market for garage floors with previous paint/epoxy on them. This fact is a BIG reason why I chose POR 15 over a multi-layered Epoxy system.

You must sand the floor well and remove as much loose paint as possible. I rented a sander from Home Depot ($200) with a regualr set of baldes and diamond set. Also, a small hand sander with 80 grit paper for the corners, edges, etc. that the big floor sander can't reach.

The floor prep is critical for a good job. Remember to purchase the POR 15 crack filler as well because the POR 15 paint WON'T fill any crack bigger than 1/16". My previous posts explain these points.

 

[POR-15 Chris]

Hows Everyone Doing Today I Am Davids Son I Will Be Handiling This Bulletin
From Here On Out If You Have Any Questions Feel Free To Ask



Floor Armor Samples----Are In The Process Of Being Made I Have A Show This Weekend But As Soon As I get Back On Monday They Will Be Completed Then Shippied To Those Requesting Color Samples

 

[woohoo]

Hi Chris - there was talk of a group buy in a previous thread, but it seems to have died out.... Any updates?

 

[POR-15 Chris]

Hi Chris - there was talk of a group buy in a previous thread, but it seems to have died out.... Any updates?

Not sure Let Me Check It Out And Ill Let You Know

 

[POR-15 Chris]

Group Buy UPDATE!!!!

10 orders ='s 10% Off If we Get A call For 10 Orders There will Be A 10% Discount Applied To The Orders

 

[POR-15 Chris]

what if your floor has been painted before

I Can Not Guarantee Our Product If There Is Previous Paint On The Floor Cause If That Paint Starts To Flake,Peel,Or Chip The My Product Is On That Old Paint So I recommend Removing All Paint Previously On The Floor If Possible But You Are More Than Welcome To Apply Our Product Over Previosly Painted Surfaces (At Your Own Risk)

 

[toms73novass]

Group Buy UPDATE!!!!

10 orders ='s 10% Off If we Get A call For 10 Orders There will Be A 10% Discount Applied To The Orders

So how do we set this up?

I'm in for a kit for a 3.5 car garage.

 

[Value]

I Can Not Guarantee Our Product If There Is Previous Paint On The Floor Cause If That Paint Starts To Flake,Peel,Or Chip The My Product Is On That Old Paint So I recommend Removing All Paint Previously On The Floor If Possible But You Are More Than Welcome To Apply Our Product Over Previosly Painted Surfaces (At Your Own Risk)

Usual disclaimer stuff. If you have old paint on the floor SAND well and often.
Do the best you can to get off the old paint. It is next to impossible to get off EVERY drop of old paint so be prepared to purchase the DELUXE kit as I did. This will allow a MINIMUM of 4 coats of product (I put down 5 ) which wil help to ensure the FINAL POR 15 product stays put on the garage floor.

I would NOT use a basic kit on a previously painted floor unless you scrape off 99% of the old paint. Even then just don't do it. Go with the FULL DELUXE kit and you will be satisfied.

 

[SteveL]

Hows Everyone Doing Today I Am Davids Son I Will Be Handiling This Bulletin
From Here On Out If You Have Any Questions Feel Free To Ask



Floor Armor Samples----Are In The Process Of Being Made I Have A Show This Weekend But As Soon As I get Back On Monday They Will Be Completed Then Shippied To Those Requesting Color Samples

Chris, Thank you for getting the samples. I think I was the first one to ask on here and would really like to get product ordered before the price increase. I also will be needing enough for 3 1/2 car garage and would love to be included in the group buy if possible. Your Dad has my e-mail address and shipping address for the samples.

Thanks!

 

[r_wain]

I also sent a request for samples to your dad's email...do you have those or should I resend it to you?

 

[Fast Cop]

I have a 22 x 24 garage with an expansion joint right down the middle. My plan is to do half at a time. Any issues with the expansion joint and the use of POR-15?

Oh and Hi to everyone. This is my first post here. I spend most of my time on the Corvette forum. My current project is as my wife calls it the Bedroom for the Corvette, AKA the garage.

 

[Value]

I have a 22 x 24 garage with an expansion joint right doen the middle. My plan is to do half at a time. Any issues with the expansion joint and the use of POR-15?

Oh and Hi to everyone. This is my first post here. I spend mose of my time on the Corvette forum. My current project is as my wife calls it the Bedroom for the Corvette, AKA the garage.

No. Please look at my pictures and you will see I have several expansion joints in my 1200 sq. foot garage. I didn't fill them completely with POR 15 for two reasons. First, the product isn't thick enough to fill the joint completely.
Second, I left the joint partially unfilled (no effort was made to NOT fill the joint with some POR 15 product) to allow room for concrete movement.

If you want to fill your expansion joint then purchase POR 15 concrete filler prior to starting the job. This would give you a seamless look to your final product. The expansion joint being left partialy exposed (now about 30% the size of the original joint) didn't bother me and the look is still nice.

Remember, it is a GARAGE floor

 

[Fast Cop]

How about a decal in the middle of the floor. If I put one down after the 2nd color coat and prior to the clear coat will that work?

 

[Value]

How about a decal in the middle of the floor. If I put one down after the 2nd color coat and prior to the clear coat will that work?

I don't know. If the decal is made from the same type of material as the vinyl flakes then it should be fine. You need to check with the decal manufacturer. But, if you decided to place a decal it would go down like the vinyl flakes. So, this means you put the decal on after applying the FIRST coat of clear (the second coat of colored POR 15 paint is already dry).

You will have enough clear left over to re-coat your decal several times with extra clear for additional protection.

 

[Lu47Dan]

Couple questions on this product ,
1 ) Can you use Hardnose paint over the base coat to add a custom graphic then seal it in with the clear coats ?
2 ) I have used other POR 15 products , is the degreaser supplied in the Floor Armor just Marine Clean or is it a different degreaser ?
3 ) The floors in my new shop will have radiant floor heating in them , should I run the system before coating the floor to drive out the excess moisture that will be in the new concrete ? Does this coating breathe ?
At 2688 square feet I would not want to have it peel off once the heat was turned on . Dan

 

[DonnieLawson]

Group Buy UPDATE!!!!

10 orders ='s 10% Off If we Get A call For 10 Orders There will Be A 10% Discount Applied To The Orders

Hello, new member here...
I'm interested in a deluxe kit for my garage, , it's 1800 sq ft.
any discounts for group buys or for an order of this size ?
Thank you, nice site

 

[KnightFire]

I put down the POR15 Floor over this past weekend and I had some problems. I purchased the 3.5 car deluxe kit from the POR-15 Depot a couple of weeks ago and the speed at which I got the product was amazing.

As stated I put down the product this last weekend.

The problems, I was shorted 2 qts of cross-link catalyzing agent and 1 of the 4 base coats/top coat gallons did NOT match the rest. I ordered the light grey kit, and received 3 gallons of light grey, with 1 gallon of dark grey, even though all 4 gallons had identical part numbers and color code labels on the cans...I should have actually opened every can to inspect the contents, I honestly didn't think something like that would be necessary, so be forewarned. Don't get in the middle of your project before finding out.

I was VERY pleased with the product itself, it went down quite nicely. I completely hosed up the color chips though. My wife helped me install the floor and she was broadcasting the chips while I rolled the top coat down. Lets just say, the very first throw was a large clump of chips at that point it was too late to do anything about it and we tried to put down a heavy coat to make it look uniform. Needless to say, I'm far from happy with it (the chips are what I'm unhappy with, the floor is OK, even though it's slightly different colors).

The clearcoat, as previously mentioned is IMPOSSIBLE to see and tell where you did and did not roll the clearcoat. I have a few gaps in my coverage, but with the lack of all the catalyst...there wasn't much more I could do...

What I'm trying to determine is can I put another top coat over the chips and start again. I know the floor will be textured (which is OK with me) from the chips, I just want to know if the vinyl chips will create lift points, if I put another coat over top of them.

The color chip fiasco was completely my fault, I should have instructed my wife better, however what I find intolerable was the fact I was given 2 different colors for one kit and shorted 2 qts of catalyst, when I spend 1,000.00 on something of this nature, I expect it to be perfect from the manufacturer.

I've contacted POR-15 Depot about the missing catalyst, mismatched floor paint and the possiblity of covering the vinyl chips. They promised to call me back within the hour.

I uploaded a few shots here (at least what I'm willing to show, I'm REALLY hoping I can cover up the horrid vinyl chips with another coat).
http://picasaweb.google.com/KnightFire01/NewHomeInCharlesTownWVBeingBuilt