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dr0

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I am an occasional poster here, and I haven't kept up, apologies in advance.

I see that even Sears long-time suppliers are bailing on them now, and I know that their tools have changed a lot in the last 5 years too, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the cheaper.

I still have a fond spot for them, I spent my first post-college paycheck buying a toolbox and enough metric tools to work on bicycles (and I still have that box, and I've fixed and built lots of bikes). Along the way it's always been my go-to spot for new hand tools, but obviously that's coming to an end real soon.

It used to be that Sears sort of lived in this sweet spot. The pro-tool "truck brands" lived above them: Snap-On, Mac, Matco and a few less known or archaic brands.

Then there was Sears.

And then there were other department stores and Ace hardware and some auto-parts stores. For a few items they had well known brands, like Stanley or Vice Grip, but the wrenches tended to be a bit obscure.

Obviously Home Depot and Lowes with their house brands seem like they are seeking to replace Sears in that sweet spot of good quality retail tools, not sold off trucks.

I've tried to keep track of them but it seems they change a lot. I bought a few wrenches a couple years ago at Home Depot, branded Husky, went back to get some others and they were no longer carrying the whole line. The last time I went all most all the wrenches in sets were an industrial black finish.

So, what is the new Go-To for people when they want to buy some basic tools, which I am in the habit of giving for Christmas to people. Husky, Cobalt, some other stuff I don't know? Harbor Freight no names?
 
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Stanley bought Craftsman and struck a deal with Lowes . Craftsman will be in there stores in 2018. We will see what they will do, with other avenues of tool positioning
 

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Home Depot has replaced Sears for the most part for me. Literally, since our Sears shut down awhile back. Have two HDs close by so that helps. And their selection is bigger than the Lowe's near me. I've had great luck so far with Husky. Power tools I've gone mostly to Dewalt, with some Bosch, Ridgid, and Ryobi thrown in. Northern Tool mostly fills the rest of the gap. I miss Sears, or at least what Sears was at one point.

A bunch of people are going to chime in and say HF, and that's fine. For me to get to HF, I have to drive by a HD, Lowes, Northern Tool, Ace, and formerly a Sears. I just never have a reason to go there.
 
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Stanley bought Craftsman and struck a deal with Lowes . Craftsman will be in there stores in 2018. We will see what they will do, with other avenues of tool positioning

Craftsman will be in more retailers than just Ace and Lowes ... I fully expect it to be in Home Depot as well.
 

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I for one won't say harbor freight. I despise Chinese made tools, and the low quality associated with em. I go out on a limb buying gearwrench being made in Taiwan.
Also, the main reason I don't buy Chinese Craftsman tools at Sears. Sorry.
 

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Most of the HF hand tools are about as good as the current Craftsman hand tools at a fraction of the price.
 

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The blow mold box stuff as gifts is always good. Most folks don't have that much really..

Brands and retailers are kinda optional with the Asain stuff all being pretty much equal as good users. Just look around a bit at what is in the stores near you, one has to be right.
That said I have had good experience with Stanley as far as generic Asain goes, I would buy that if in need.
 

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Why would it be at home depot when they carry husky..a direct competitor to CMan.

I don't think HD cares about what brands they sell. Profit per item is more important, though I guess building Husky up to the "go to" brand for Mr. Joe Blow is also important to them.
 

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Why would it be at home depot when they carry husky..a direct competitor to CMan.

Kobalt is also a direct competitor of Sears Craftsman ... SBD Craftsman will be a step above Husky and Kobalt.

To the OP's original question, it may be interesting to see which (if any?) of the auto supply stores SBD is able to secure contracts with ... they may be better able to carry a more complete offering of Craftsman's mechanics tools.
 

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If you still have a Sears near you they are loaded with those Christmas gift Craftsman tool sets in the displays just like before, much of it made by Apex, just like Husky, pretty much the same as HD or Lowes.
 

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When I found Chinese produced Craftsman at Sears a few years ago, I went looking. Many personal reasons for seeking out American made brands. Also try to avoid the big box stores but that's not always possible.

Harry J Epsteins is a great place to start. They carry the full line of SK and Wright. Both have given me excellent service. If you have an industrial supply house in town Proto or Williams may be options.

Mark
 

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I use harbor freight tools and would not feel ashamed to give their products to someone else as a gift.

Fortunately, I don't have anyone in my life that would feel that receiving a gift, would be "beneath" them.

At one time, when giving a gift, it was the thought that counts.

Besides, probably 99% of all Christmas gift given are made in China.


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@dr0 - are you in Canada or the US? I ask because Sears Canada is circling the drain and will not make it to Christmas 2017. On the other hand, the last Ameican Sears I went to in Michigan was VERY well stocked with Craftsman tools - and I bought plenty! Everything from wrenches to torx / hex bits to a picks and a beast of a pry bar. And of course ratchets - our new tech at work loves that style for quick jobs. That was October and there was no shortage of tools or customers (4 people ahead of me in line!), so unless something has changed, I imagine you can get your Christmas tool shopping done at Sears. As many others have stated, 2018 will see Craftsman at Lowes and probably others, and life goes on...
 

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I think the OP is talking about Christmas gift tools you would get somebody who is in the average homeowner/DIY non-professional type. I don't think SK, Snap-On, Proto, whatever is what the aim is here. Take the Craftsman Evolv 5 piece pliers set pictured in the link, that would be a perfect gift for instance, if your kid with an office job is moving into his or her first home for $12.99. They likely will work for any basic task they ever need to do, likely won't ever be pushed to the breaking point, and if lost they were less than $3 each. Everything has its place in the market and the gift sets at the Sears, Lowes, HDs and the likes meet the needs of their homeowner/DIY market customers at very reasonable prices, especially this time of year.

https://www.bfads.net/stores/sears/ads/black-friday/page-11
 

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Craftsman has a set of decent wrenches on sale for $8 plus shipping buy a few give em out as gifts.
 

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over the past few years, kobalt have been my choice for a lot of what i buy.

i was looking for a long T30 torx bit a couple weeks ago, nobody around town had any long bits in stock, ended up ordering a set direct from tekton.

several times ive looked at sears for open stock sockets, they didnt stock them, if lowes didnt have what i needed, i ended up getting them from SO



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Craftsman will be in more retailers than just Ace and Lowes ... I fully expect it to be in Home Depot as well.

I am forced to retract my expectation that the Craftsman brand will appear in Home Depot. Lowe's has provided some additional comments, suggesting exclusivity among home improvement retailers:

"The partnership between Stanley Black & Decker and Lowe's will bring some of the most innovative products into our omni-channel home improvement shopping experience, allowing both DIY and Pro customers even greater access to high-quality, value-oriented product offerings for the next home improvement project. We are proud to be the partner of choice in the home center channel for the Craftsman brand and look forward to sharing additional information with you in 2018."

The Craftsman roll out next year will be much broader than Lowe's and Ace, including auto supplier(s), industrial supplier(s), E-commerce supplier(s) ... hell, you might even find it on Mac Tool trucks. However, it appears that you will not find Craftsman at Home Depot.
 

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I went to Sears for early black Friday, because I was in town anyway.

They had all kinds of tools, both sets and individual hand tools, boxes, air compressors, cordless power tools, vacs.

I would think someone who appreciates a nice gift and is not expecting Christmas -1966, would be just fine, with the current Cman products.
 

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Most of the HF hand tools are about as good as the current Craftsman hand tools at a fraction of the price.

Agreed. Most people don't know or care about COO. In years past, I would be bashing HF, however they have been upgrading their offerings. Their toola are as good or better than the current CM offerings, and cheaper.

After Sears is gone, SBD will be producing and marketing CM through several other outlets. I suspect that they will continue to honor the CM warranty as an act of goodwill.

If I was in need of tools, and CM was my brand of choice, I wouldn't hesitate to buy CM
 

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Most of my hand tools are Craftsman... mostly good old USA and a small amount of newer Chinese stuff... I also have an assortment of other brands depending on the products (SK, Irwin, Husky, Dewalt, Porter-Cable, etc, etc...). I find my main source of buying tools now is estate sales, finding good old tools at a fraction of the price of the stores.

It's going to be real interesting to see what happens in 2018 with tons more Sears stores set to close in Jan 2018 and Stanley set to stock the shelves at Lowes with Craftsman stuff...

I buy some small things at HF for the bargain price... 99% are consumables like brushes, grommets, wire connectors, etc... I do have a set of their metric deep impact sockets and they have exceeded my expectations. There are plenty of HF hand tools that people say are pretty good quality (especially for the price). Sure they aren't Snap-On, but you aren't paying SO prices either.

I'm not a huge fan of the current Chinese-made Kobalt or Husky tools... They are over-priced for what they are, and with so many people having issues with warranty exchanges for them there are much better options out there. If I had to start all over I would probably look at like Napa's Carlyle tools for budget, or SK if I had money to burn.

I think Sears will hang in there a while longer as an online-only presence. But honestly their website is so UN-user friendly it is only a matter of time before that bombs.
 

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Hi Fellas
So where will Stanley have these Craftsman tools made ? Will they be made in the good old USA like the Craftsman of old or will they be made in China ?
Thanks
scarrylarry
 

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I really hope they bring back some good Craftsman stuff... I would suppose if they wanted to make cheap Chinese stuff they could have just invented some generic brand and not bothered to pay the hundreds of millions of dollars to Sears...
 
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