Potential build in DFW

[Hdtheater]

Almost ready to build in DFW

Getting started in researching a garage build. I just purchased a new home in June of this year on an acre and half of land with more than enough room to build what I want.

My only restrictions are HOA guidelines and budget.

Here are some shots of my blank canvas to work with:









It's about 125' from the edge of my driveway to tree line behind the house.

-Eric

 

[Falcon67]

Nice place, looks like a good are for a build. Been a while since I've been through Parker. Used to have relatives in the Royce City/Caddo Mills/Greenville area

 

[Hdtheater]

We are 1 mile from South Fork for those interested in Texas history.

 

[JasonTX]

Hi there. I'm just down the road from you, in Murphy.

 

[Falcon67]

We are 1 mile from South Fork for those interested in Texas history.

I miss JR.

 

[Hdtheater]

Hi there. I'm just down the road from you, in Murphy.

Know any good contractors in the area?

-Eric

 

[ZRX61]

My only restrictions are HOA guidelines

Uh oh....I think we know this song

 

[JasonTX]

Hi Eric. I do not. We havent crossed that bridge yet.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Uh oh....I think we know this song

Hi Eric. I do not. We havent crossed that bridge yet.

I think THIS Youtube video says it best.

Charles

 

[Hdtheater]

Been working on my drawing. This is a first pass. It has everything I think I want in the garage.

It is more space than I need, but I am building for future projects. Some items I may not do when it is initially built, but I want all the infrastructure there. For example; I could plumb the bathroom, but not finish the room or install any fixtures.

I am still debating how much I will do vs. hire out.




If there is something you think I need to add please chime in.

-Eric

 

[bazzateer]

If there is something you think I need to add please chime in.

More space, make it bigger, you'll need it eventually!

 

[Hdtheater]

More space, make it bigger, you'll need it eventually!

It was smaller, but at the suggestion of my wife it got bigger.

 

[justsam]

Looks like you are into wood work and machining so perhaps you have no need for a auto lift, like many have here.

Not sure I would be a fan of needing to move vehicles to get to the bank of tools along the wall. I might tend to make them more free standing but with good natural light.

I like the idea of compressor in separate room. Use sound deadening techniques.

 

[1320stang]

Gable end on the back, so you can go further back in a couple years.

 

[Hdtheater]

Not sure I would be a fan of needing to move vehicles to get to the bank of tools along the wall. I might tend to make them more free standing but with good natural light.

I saw that when I posted the pic. Maybe move the front garage door over to the center more? This is mostly a woodworking shop, but wanted to keep the option of parking a couple cars in for when the kids start driving.

-Eric

 

[Hdtheater]

Gable end on the back, so you can go further back in a couple years.

I have to make the garage match the house per HOA and I could do gables or hips in the front. My house has both.

-Eric

 

[Hdtheater]

I may have forgot to mention, I currently have 3 car garage that my car gets parked in and that I use as my shop. So, I will most likely not be parking cars in the new one.

-Eric

 

[Hdtheater]

Here is an updated copy. I slid the garage door over some and gave more room between the bench and the cars. Also, I update the electrical and lighting a bit.

Opinions? Criticisms?

-Eric

 

[BBQ&Love]

Give Steve a call at www.ulrichgarages.com. He's a great guy, pleasure to work with, and will do you right. Not the cheapest, but you will get a great building you will be proud of. I work for a sister company so I have a pretty good feel for what kind of work they are doing and how they operate.

 

[Hdtheater]

Give Steve a call at www.ulrichgarages.com. He's a great guy, pleasure to work with, and will do you right. Not the cheapest, but you will get a great building you will be proud of. I work for a sister company so I have a pretty good feel for what kind of work they are doing and how they operate.

I saw these are mostly metal buildings. I need for the structure to look like the house. How are they at traditional construction or can I get brick and stone siding with an asphalt roof on a metal building?

 

[BBQ&Love]

I saw these are mostly metal buildings. I need for the structure to look like the house. How are they at traditional construction or can I get brick and stone siding with an asphalt roof on a metal building?

I understand why you might have gotten that impression, wood frame structures with painted siding is their main line. Probably 75% of their business with metal and horse barns filling in the rest. Sorry for the misconception given by the website. They are promoting the metal because they do have a nice line of metal.

They have done some really nice stuff with masonry exteriors. They do a number with masonry part ways up and siding the rest of the way.

 

[agfisher]

Little things

Even with good dust collection those machines will still generate some fine saw dust that will cover everything. Any way you can try to keep to big dust making power tools in a separate room to limit the amount of dust? Then again is this just going to be wood/machine shop?

Make sure if you keep the miter saw in that position you have a way to give it support and clearance for any long boards

Why the separate small room for the door cabinet?

Adam

 

[cj7365]

Been working on my drawing. This is a first pass. It has everything I think I want in the garage.

It is more space than I need, but I am building for future projects. Some items I may not do when it is initially built, but I want all the infrastructure there. For example; I could plumb the bathroom, but not finish the room or install any fixtures.

I am still debating how much I will do vs. hire out.




If there is something you think I need to add please chime in.

-Eric

I would not want a wall around my tool box, if you are in and out of it like me, it could be a pain in the ***. I would delete that wall and have your boxes face out.

 

[Hdtheater]

I was thinking tool room to keep dust, over spray, etc... off tools, in process projects and what not.

The room on the other side of that is for my CNC and it kicks up a ton of dust and is noisy as he**.

-Eric

 

[jsherid1]

We are building in Lucas just South of the new Middle School on Lucas Rd. so we will be near neighbors.

In terms of the plan, make sure your two car garage door is at least 18' as We are dealing with a 16' door in our temporary housing in Allen and it is a bit tight. You may also want to consider moving the two car door to give you some clearance vs the cabinets on the left side. I am jealous of the depth and the tools!

 

[Hdtheater]

We are building in Lucas just South of the new Middle School on Lucas Rd. so we will be near neighbors.

In terms of the plan, make sure your two car garage door is at least 18' as We are dealing with a 16' door in our temporary housing in Allen and it is a bit tight. You may also want to consider moving the two car door to give you some clearance vs the cabinets on the left side. I am jealous of the depth and the tools!

We are closer than you think. Don't be jealous, I haven't got the price tag yet. It could get smaller. I am going to start on an elevation a plan this weekend, if time allows.

-Eric

 

[jsherid1]

If you need some help with the elevation drawing, let me know as one of my hobbies is architectural drawing (generally paper based). I've designed an addition and a carriage house for my parents beach house.

 

[Falcon67]

Tool box needs to be by the work bench. You'll quickly tire of accessing the box in that little room, guaranteed. That's X2 on tossing that L wall. Cabs on the wall between the CNC and the work space should be good. Or park the table saw there and engineer the back table to locate the saw under the work surface or hinge the work surface to fold up against the wall and park the table saw in that spot. Depends on how much time you sped with the saw I suppose.

 

[Hdtheater]

I built my 3d model this weekend. Its kind of rough, but it is good enough for my purposes. Still needs windows





Also, met with a contractor this morning. I turned my drawings over to them to get me a bid. They used $90 a sqft. as a rule of thumb which way over what I was expecting. I was planning on $50 a sqft. Thankfully, this is only the first contractor. I have two more coming over this week. What is the going rate these days?

-Eric

 

[BlackSheepSpeedShop]

I build in the Southlake, Colleyville, Westlake area. Please let me know if I can help.

 

[Hdtheater]

PM Incoming

 

[White 99]

I would make sure the ceiling height is plenty high. Someday you might want a lift if you are doing auto work. I wish my cement floor was a little thicker and stronger.

Also it looks like you have a large upstairs for storage. Just make the floor strong enough and add some access. Storage is always welcome and should add little cost.

 

[Hdtheater]

I am meeting with the first contractor this week to review their bid. Anybody have some pointers to keep me from stepping on a land mine or two?

-Eric

 

[jsherid1]

I'd get the RS Means remodeling guide available at Lowes for the cost of trades as a start. The $90/sq ft seems high--I think my incremental garage sq ft cost was around half that. But that is for attached space attached to the big cost driver, the house itself. You might also talk to Tony at M Christopher or Mike at Paul Taylor to see who they'd recommend--both are car guys. With construction starts slowing a bit they may even have some crews looking to stay busy.

 

[jsherid1]

One other thing the more organized you are with what you want in terms of specs and design the less you will spend on change orders. I also like to have a perspective that has basis in fact/data to support my target pricing. In corporate purchasing we call it clean sheeting and when used properly it helps a lot. PM me if you want specifics on how to prepare for the negotiations/discussions.

 

[Hdtheater]

I met with the first contractor yesterday and the price was more down to earth at $52 a foot. Price is still coming in much higher than I expected. I guess a lot can happen in 5 years. My other two contractors must be very successful, since they won't call me back. I got another name today and will be giving him a call on Monday.

-Eric

 

[CodyY]

Put your compressor outside in a small "lean-to" off the back. Nothing big, but when the doors are closed to keep the bugs out for night work, the ******* always kicks on during one of your favorite songs

 

[MacTexas]

Just finished mine at the first of the summer and it was $51/per sq ft. It is all brick because of HOA requirements.

 

[Hdtheater]

The HOA brick and roof line rules are definitely taking a chunk of the price. I am now looking at ways to take out square footage or delaying parts until later on.

I checked your build out. Very nice.

 

[jsherid1]

$51 isn't too bad on a PSF basis, if that's turn key. Doing stuff like insulation, drywall and electrical fixtures yourself might bring costs down a bit. I checked our change orders with M.Christopher and I am paying about that ($45) for my incremental garage and storage space. They did tell me freestanding buildings, like a car barn, would be higher than that and I was already getting laser eyes from my wife for the garage size.