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Preferred "tool" to clean gasket mating surfaces?

Jacobson

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I had run out of gasket remover foam to make the residue softer.

I was using a plastic scraper and it seemed to be scratching the aluminum engine.
So, I didn't even try a utility knife.

Do you use metal blades?
Plastic scraper?
Wire wheel/brush?
Drill attachment? I've seen a paper wheel thing.

Which of these are safe on aluminum engines?
 
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Try a really sharp wood chisel upside down, it really works well, you can control the depth of cut and prevent it from digging in by keeping the bevel flat against the work. Don't use abrasive cookies, including the ones that look like scotchbrite pads, the abrasive will get into the motor and wipe out the bearings, and it's easy to ruin the surface by rounding off the edges.
 

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Try a really sharp wood chisel upside down, it really works well, you can control the depth of cut and prevent it from digging in by keeping the bevel flat against the work. Don't use abrasive cookies, including the ones that look like scotchbrite pads, the abrasive will get into the motor and wipe out the bearings, and it's easy to ruin the surface by rounding off the edges.

Excellent advice here.

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If I can get away with it, die grinder and wire wheel. If I don't want stuff flying everywhere then the carbide ones, such as Super Scraper, work excellent provided you keep the edge as flat as possible.
 

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I use a straight razor blade for the thick stuff and then use Scotch-Brite and WD-40 for the fine stuff. Sometimes I use a brass wire brush.
 

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Carbide scrapers work for me, clean up with a wire brush. Occasionally, if the circumstances allow, a block with some emery tape. But those are rare.
 

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I just used a die grinder and a high speed wire wheel recently on the mating surfaces on some aluminum thermostat parts for a car and it worked great and sealed great afterwards.
 
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Do NOT use Scotch Brite pads on an open engine unless you want to rebuild the engine later. If you need to clean the gasket surface, use the Roloc bristle discs.

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Bristle disc is a no no for internal parts as well due to the abrasives in the bristles. Remember, if you can't feel it with a fingernail, it won't interfere with sealing, discoloration doesn't matter. Read what the mfgs say on the issue. I've seen replacement engine claims denied because of evidence of abrasive disc use.
 
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Keeping the Scotch-Brite (hand pad) wet with WD-40 limits the travel distance of the abrasive particles by keeping them in a solvent slurry that can easily be absorbed into a shop towel.
 

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gasket remover - 'chisel' by loctite? dangerous ****.
i use razor blades, sharpened scrapers, steel or brass wire wheels, sand cloth
 

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I almost always use a metal razor blade. Most of the time without a holder, but they are useful every now and again.

What exactly are you trying to clean on this aluminum engine?
 
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I had run out of gasket remover foam to make the residue softer.

I was using a plastic scraper and it seemed to be scratching the aluminum engine.
So, I didn't even try a utility knife.

Do you use metal blades?
Plastic scraper?
Wire wheel/brush?
Drill attachment? I've seen a paper wheel thing.

Which of these are safe on aluminum engines?
As stated before, the super scraper works awesome. Also, if your going g to use a razor blade, try holding it at nearly a 90 degree angle to the surface and drag it. It will tear up the blades a bit faster but no risk of gouging the material. I have used this method hundreds of time on aluminum blocks and heads and it works great

The bristle discs work great too and they make them in different grits. The key to them is to spin them fast, keep them as flat as possibly and keep them moving, never concentrate on one spot, just keep going over it in long strokes.

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I use metal scrapers all the time on my motorcycle (lots of aluminum) engines/parts. My go to these days is the KTC Hard Steel Scraper # KZ3-18A. Super sharp, just be careful with it...

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Keeping the Scotch-Brite (hand pad) wet with WD-40 limits the travel distance of the abrasive particles by keeping them in a solvent slurry that can easily be absorbed into a shop towel.

I'll just say keep any red scotchbrite away from an open motor, period. Unless its on a workbench and going into a solvent cleaning process.

Those redd pads drop Alu or whatever oxide all over the place as a fine redu dust. I think its an act of hubris assuming you will keep all of that dust out of an engine.

Thats a battle won by not fighting it. :beer:
 

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I've always wanted to try a "scraper". My dad gave me some long before I knew what they were for and I let a friend use them for bondo work. I kick myself every time I think of that. This link shows one in a holder, the ones I had were just rectangular steel approximately 16 gauge.
http://www.woodworking.org/WC/Channels/scraper.html

Easy to come by, try Rockler.
They also come up on CL quite often.
 

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Difficult to beat Hyde glass scraper with new blade. I have love hate relationship with them. Seems to me nothing beats paper thin razor sharp blade.

Sometimes I have to resort to "sand paper" to remove corroded spots, and such. I keep it wet with brake clean to avoid loosing debris into whatever I am working on.

If I can clean the part properly afterwards - wire wheel.
 

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Here's the deal, the gasket doesn't care how shiny the surface is, all you need is smooth, and more importantly, parallel and flat. If you can't feel it with a fingernail, you don't need to worry about it, it won't affect the seal. Anything more is a waste of time, and quite possibly a detriment to the seal, polishing gasket surfaces can cause gaskets to creep out under pressure, as can putting rtv on gaskets that were meant to be installed dry. Abrasives are a no no, due to potential internal damage to the motor, steel doesn't mind wire wheels, as long as you don't go overboard and try for a mirror finish, but aluminum is softer, and the risk of removing metal is very real, in fact, it's likely. On an old small block Chevy and the like, the tolerances are loose enough, and the gaskets are thick enough, that people have been getting away with bad practices for decades. Modern motors... not so much. When the roloc discs came out, we thought they were heaven sent, then we stared getting bottom end failures soon after top end jobs, the mfgs did a little digging and found out that the silicon abrasive from the discs was causing bearing failure, and more importantly, that the particles were too small for the filter to catch. A gift that keeps on giving. I realise that everyone's dad did it that way, and it always worked, hell, I did it that way for decades, but getting your twinky slammed by the warranty police will get your attention fast, I'm a believer now, and my shop follows the new rules, and guess what, we don't get repeat failures. It even works on old motors, my 912 motor is dry as a bone on the outside, even the Nash Metropolitan motor doesn't leak much.
 
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I've begrudgingly used 2"Scotchbrites on vertical water pump mating surfaces when I just couldn't seem to find anything else that would get in there and clean it up.

I used it sparingly and with short blips of the trigger. Then I blew off gently w compressed air. Years later that water pump is still ok. Nonetheless the Scotchbrite was not my first choice and literally my last resort.
 

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I don't see it as a real mystery that blasting an engine full of **** and grit isn't good for it. Bad practice no9 matter what the tool and like most equipment some experience and training may be in order.
I like right angle air powered and wire wheel for most of it and am skilled enough not to ruin the piece I am working on. I have some Roloc but really don't use them, as was mentioned grit and just never got in the habit as I had good wire wheels. I don't run the thing wide open which is why I really like air, can fuss with the speed with the trigger. Not a fan of worn out wheels, my preference for this type of thing is one just broke in.
 
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I've always used a one-sided razor blade with no handle, a light touch after soaking the area with spray carb cleaner. That is followed up with ScotchBrite and more soaking with carb cleaner. Repeat as necessary.
 

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I use a snapon PK-3 scraper I bought over 50 years ago. It is a heavy blade putty knife that is sharpened with a chisel edge. Works well and after over 50 years and countless resharpenings it is still going strong.
 

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Single edge razor blade, relieve the corners using abrasive paper so they don't dig in.

I just did this on a Subaru - the only chemical that had any effect on the gasket residue was Aluminum Jelly, the aluminum version of Naval Jelly. I guess it was the phosphoric acid.
 
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