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Kevin Essiambre

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So remove the pressure switch line that's on the rear of L1 and connect it to L2?
No, that will create a dead short (line to line).

Can you take a photo showing the wiring up top clearly? I believe it's wired correctly, but cannot see it clearly, so others cannot see it clearly either.

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I'm out of time right now but I need to read and get familiar and be comfortable with messing with it. I'll read your guy's directions better on my break in a while
I looked up the part number yesterday, and I confirmed that your coil should be 208-230, but there is always a chance it was assembled wrong at the factory.

Here's what I mean in the pressure switch itself. If you move one wire, and connect it to the other under the same screw, the compressor should start. Can you take a photo of the right side of the pressure switch as well? I want to see if there used to be a switch on the side of it.
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I'm sorry everyone I have been very busy and completely forgot about this. My mother in law has been in the hospital for kidney and liver failure . Her kidneys were at 10% and the liver is bad as well.
cirrhosis.. and today my wife said she's getting better again. That lady is like a cat! This isn't the first time she almost passed for the same thing but we're hoping her body picks itself up again.

Man, that's unfortunate to hear. I hope she makes it through all of this okay. Stay safe while at the hospital... I hear COVID-19 are in hospitals.

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I'll get you those pics when I get home in roughly 7hrs and 49 minutes :D
So with the power off move the "motor" wire to the same screw as the "line" wire.
I thought you meant to switch the wires on the starter. I can try this and post what happens.
Thanks for the kind words :) unfortunately the hospitals aren't allowing ANY visitors. Even her own daughter and I feel so bad for my wife and my mother in law. This is kind of my mother in laws fault for not following the strict diet my wife gave her but still.....
 
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I don't know how the motor failed for the previous owner but I did find evidence of a short in the actual motor wiring box attached to the side of the motor and a hose clamp that was melted on a certain area. It could be that pressure switch! I'll be back guys. Break's over
 

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First , I hope your mother in law is doing well. I know you have had a lot of advice on this compressor. Im just trying to give my two cents. If nothing is making sense or you are not comfortable doing this, please hire this out to someone to trouble shoot this. I believe in a earlier post you said if you manually pushed the contactor in, the motor ran. So that is telling the motor is ok and you have power to the contactor and the power wiring in also ok. What does the pressure gauge read, is there enough air in the tank keeping it from running, in not then the problem is in the control. There are 4 components here.

The coil
The overload relay
The pressure switch
The wiring connecting all of these

Please make sure power is off to the contactor before doing any of this, don't take anyone's word, check yourself. If you don't know how or don't feel comfortable, stop here and hire this out. You have to have a basic knowledge of electrical trouble shooting to check these components. Check the coil voltage by looking on the actual coil, not paperwork. It should say 240 volts, not 24,120, 480. If it says any of these other voltages, here is the problem. If it is 240, there are 2 wires on that coil, remove at least one. Hopefully you have a multimeter and are familiar with it. Put the dial on ohms, touch the leads together, it should read zero and might even beep. now that you tested the meter, put the leads on the coil terminals, It should show some resistance, probably low, but some. If the display shows OL, then your coil is burnt open. Something I should have mentioned, take a picture with your phone in case you forget where the wires go. If the coil checks ok, lets check the overload relay. take one wire off the terminals, making sure that it is wired to the normally closed set of contacts if there are both. Put your probes on these, your meter should read zero, if not, try pressing the reset, if it says OL, then the problem is the overload relay. Now the pressure switch, remove one wire, this also should be wire to the normally closed contacts. Read this with your meter, If it reads zero, it is fine. If it reads OL, the switch is open. Check for air in the tank, if none, the switch is bad or wired wrong. Only thing left is control wiring. without knowing your skill the easiest way for me to tell you is remove one wire at a time and check continuity with the meter, reads zero the wire is good, reads OL the wire is bad. Especially check those stay con terminals on the pressure switch wiring. Do all of this one wire at a time then put it back before taking another one off. If all this checks out good, then it is not wired right. There should be a control wire from line one from the power going to one terminal of the coil. There should be a control wire from line two of the power to the overload relay, then second wire from the overload relay should go to the pressure switch, then the second wire from the pressure switch should go to the other terminal on the coil. Sorry for a long post, hope this helps
 
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There should be a control wire from line one from the power going to one terminal of the coil. There should be a control wire from line two of the power to the overload relay, then second wire from the overload relay should go to the pressure switch, then the second wire from the pressure switch should go to the other terminal on the coil.
Great write up.

His starter came pre-wired for half of it, from L2, to the overload(95), and from the overload(96) to the coil/relay. The only field wiring for the coil/relay circuit would be the pressure switch from L1 to the pressure switch, and from the pressure switch back to the coil/relay.

Telling OP it's wired a different way than it is may only confuse him more.

Honestly if it comes down to it, I'd be willing to do a video chat with him to go over everything.

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Thanks Terry D! I do feel somewhat better working on this with the help of everyone here. This forum has been a life saver with this compressor :)
The disconnect keeps me safe with this. I'll post what I found in another post.
 

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Great write up.

His starter came pre-wired for half of it, from L2, to the overload(95), and from the overload(96) to the coil/relay. The only field wiring for the coil/relay circuit would be the pressure switch from L1 to the pressure switch, and from the pressure switch back to the coil/relay.

Telling OP it's wired a different way than it is may only confuse him more.

Honestly if it comes down to it, I'd be willing to do a video chat with him to go over everything.

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Your absolutely right, no need to confuse things more. I think a video chat would be great

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I remember seeing something burnt..... the inside of the case was a sign and look at the lower positioned electrical connector. Its burnt to hell lol
The back of the L2 side I have the top wire connected too is also burnt and no continuity on the L2 side so yeah its toast. The other side L1 is in fine shape. Could I just switch the wires over to that side or could that not work right?


I put the wires together but didn't power it on. By doing this is should come on when I switch the disconnect to the on position right?
I just get nervous about anything electrical but I'm feeling better than at first. :beer:
Why does this pressure switch have two sides?
 

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I remember seeing something burnt..... the inside of the case was a sign and look at the lower positioned electrical connector. Its burnt to hell lol

The back of the L2 side I have the top wire connected too is also burnt and no continuity. So yeah its toast. The other side L1 is in fine shape. Should I just switch the wires over to that side or could that not work right?

I put the wires together but didn't power it on. By doing this is should come on when I switch the disconnect to the on position right?

I just get nervous about anything electrical but I'm feeling better than at first. [emoji481]

Why does this pressure switch have two sides?
Yes, switch the wires to the other side(from L2 to L1), and the thing should start with no issues.

I would start saving for a new pressure switch....

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Yes, switch the wires to the other side(from L2 to L1), and the thing should start with no issues.

I would start saving for a new pressure switch....

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It fired up :bounce::bowdown:
I will get a new switch soon as you recommend. Right now I'm waiting for my replacement main outlet shut off valve. The one it had was not lined up where I wanted it so when I turned it a little more to re position it..... yeah :(
I'm waiting for that so I can build pressure since it's just open right now. I also ordered a 1/2" 8ft hose that connects from that valve to the regulator in going to buy. I always over think things and it take me forever to decide on which one is best for me. I don't want something to fail on me and later I find out I should have gotten a different item.
 

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It fired up :bounce::bowdown:
I will get a new switch soon as you recommend. Right now I'm waiting for my replacement main outlet shut off valve. The one it had was not lined up where I wanted it so when I turned it a little more to re position it..... yeah :(
I'm waiting for that so I can build pressure since it's just open right now. I also ordered a 1/2" 8ft hose that connects from that valve to the regulator in going to buy. I always over think things and it take me forever to decide on which one is best for me. I don't want something to fail on me and later I find out I should have gotten a different item.
Glad you got it working!

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yeah i was gonna say couple days ago that the paper inside the pressure switch cover looked smoked but totally forgot to leave a comment.

this is why having a continuity meter is imperative for troubleshooting stuff like this
 
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Yes, switch the wires to the other side(from L2 to L1), and the thing should start with no issues.

I would start saving for a new pressure switch....

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Just wanted to update, I ran my compressor until it shutdown..... but it didn't. I shut it down at 180psi :( I tried to lower the off pressure by turning the adjustment screw on the switch CCW and had it to the point that a couple more turns will take it out.
I'm going to order the new pressure switch now.
This and the Milton regulator/filter i bought only goes up to 120 on the regulator at it's max setting and if I use my impact gun it drops to 110. I even tried a different guage.... that's going back sadly and I need to get another.
 
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The high side of the compressor is 270, the low side of the compressor is 70, the valve next to the pressure switch is at 200
 
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