Pressure washer pumps?
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Packard V8
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Go over to that other site and ask fatfillup. Tell him Jack said he was the ultimate guru for pressure washer pumps.
jack vines
jack vines
regguy1
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I bought 2 on eBay for reasonable price ($100.00 for new one)
Do a search and see.....
Major Ramifications
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What type of engine, what pressure and volume, vertical or horizontal, and what do you consider to be a reasonable price?
Honda gx-340, I think 3000 psi, and around a 100 bucks is reasonable. I'll see what other info I can find tomorrow.
Az Scooter
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Good luck. That price is not in the realm for a pump that will last.
I know a bit about pressure washers, I own 20.
I know a bit about pressure washers, I own 20.
ok, so what is?
pl_silverado
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Pony up for a cat pump and live happily ever after.
$ 300-500
$ 300-500
Major Ramifications
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I looked up the price of a pump for a Black Max BM80915 like this:http://www.blackmaxtools.com/catalog/pressure_washers/BM80915
The list price is $78.86. You should be able to get one from any Homelite/Ryobi service center, from ereplacementparts.com, or gardnerinc.com. The part number is 309515003.
The list price is $78.86. You should be able to get one from any Homelite/Ryobi service center, from ereplacementparts.com, or gardnerinc.com. The part number is 309515003.
That would be Elroy's advice as well.
Cool stuff man, I'm going to take some pictures tomorrow and post them here so yall see what it lloks like! Thanks for the help!!
honcho
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Honda GX340 Engine is 10hp and probably has a 1 inch shaft, so you've got to buy a pump that fits the shaft and, unless you find one on Ebay cheap, it's going to cost significantly more than $100.
A nice engine like that should be powering a plunger pump like a CAT pump. Triplex pumps cost more and last longer than the cheap axial pumps.
The replacement pump for the BlackMax pressure washer likely won't fit your engine because the Honda GC190 is a much lower output engine and likely has a smaller shaft than your GX340
If you're set on buying a cheap pump, you might as well sell your engine (and presumably the frame) and just buy a complete cheap new unit because you won't be any better off with a cheap pump on your current engine.
A nice engine like that should be powering a plunger pump like a CAT pump. Triplex pumps cost more and last longer than the cheap axial pumps.
The replacement pump for the BlackMax pressure washer likely won't fit your engine because the Honda GC190 is a much lower output engine and likely has a smaller shaft than your GX340
If you're set on buying a cheap pump, you might as well sell your engine (and presumably the frame) and just buy a complete cheap new unit because you won't be any better off with a cheap pump on your current engine.
Major Ramifications
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Oh damn, I didn't realize that the GX340 is a 10 HP engine with a 1" shaft, but it is. The pump I posted has a 3/4" shaft, so that would not work.
Why in the hell would they put a big 10HP engine on a pressure washer that only makes 3,000 PSI?
Are you sure about the 3,000 PSI? Something is not adding up.
Why in the hell would they put a big 10HP engine on a pressure washer that only makes 3,000 PSI?
Are you sure about the 3,000 PSI? Something is not adding up.
It has no identification on the pump or frame, so I'm not certain what psi it is. I would take some pictures, but it is so humid that the camera lens keeps fogging up! It does say that the engine is a 11hp, not 10 hp.
honcho
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3000 psi is plenty of cleaning pressure. What the 10HP engine gives you at 3000psi is water volume. You want pressure (high psi) and volume (gallons per minute) A typical pressure lower end washer delivers around 2500 psi and about 2 gallons per minute. 2500 psi is plenty but 2 gallons per minute isn't that much.
sajohnson
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Wesley B: Did you ever hear from 'fatfillup'?
I have a Generac PW with a 5.5 hp commercial Honda engine.
It's maybe 8 years old +/- and the engine still runs great. We've gotten a lot of use out of it but the original pump just died, so I'm also in the market for a new one.
I know Cat pumps are very good and I may go ahead and spring for one but that may be overkill for my typical residential use.
Anyway, I'd love to hear what fatfillup suggested (if you've heard from him) as well as any advice from others.
Thanks!
sajohnson
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What would you recommend Az Scooter (see my post above)?
Haven't heard from him yet, because I was supposed to take pictures for him, but it has been so humid that the camera lens fogs up. He is mostly familar with industrial use pressure washers, but was going to try and help me anyways! My is residential use also, so I don't really want to put 500 or so dollars into a pump.
sajohnson
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I hear ya about the $500! IIRC, that's about what I paid for my Generac.
I talked with some guys at McHenry's here in Frederick, MD, when I went in to get a new pressure gun, nozzles, etc. They said that my PW has a great engine but that Generac likely used a cheap pump to keep the price low. They recommended replacing it but the pump was still ok at the time so I passed. I seem to recall that they recommended a Cat pump and the price (pump only) was less than $200. I'll probably call them tomorrow and get the exact model # and a new price quote.
I know next to nothing about pumps but I imagine that they all have an estimated service life (assuming a good clean water supply). That might be one way to decide -- look at how many hours you use the PW, and the expected life left in the engine. My guess would be that for our use, something in the middle (not a cheap POS, but not gold-plated either) would be the way to go.
sajohnson
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I spoke with someone at McHenry's today. He recommended an axial BE model #DXD2528G.
I looked at the BE website but could not find that pump.
The price (pump only) is $258.
I found several axial pumps on eBay, mostly 'Comet' brand -- some for less than $200:
http://shop.ebay.com/sis.html?_nkw=Honda+GX160+5+5+pressure+washer+engine+W+comet+pump
Any thoughts?
Suggestions?
I looked at the BE website but could not find that pump.
The price (pump only) is $258.
I found several axial pumps on eBay, mostly 'Comet' brand -- some for less than $200:
http://shop.ebay.com/sis.html?_nkw=Honda+GX160+5+5+pressure+washer+engine+W+comet+pump
Any thoughts?
Suggestions?
sajohnson
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Just a bump.
Any thoughts on a good replacement pump for a pressure washer with a 5.5 hp Honda commercial engine?
Any thoughts on a good replacement pump for a pressure washer with a 5.5 hp Honda commercial engine?
honcho
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Need the engine model shaft size and engine orientation (vertical or horizontal shaft) to be able to recommend suitable pumps.
sajohnson
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Thanks Honcho.
It's a Honda GX160. Horizontal shaft.
I'm not sure of the shaft diameter, but I believe 3/4" is fairly standard.
I just checked a parts supply place and 3/4" seems correct.
My use is residential. Although we do have quite a bit to keep clean, I don't need a top-of-the line pump. The low-end OE pump that Generac used lasted me this long (about 10+ years).
Thanks in advance for your help.
sajohnson
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I've been doing some searching online and I'm leaning toward the Cat model #3DNX25GSI.
See: http://www.catpumps.com/pumps-direct-drive-pressure-washer.asp
It's about $300 from a variety of sources -- I usually buy through Amazon to help out my brother who has an online Amazon 'store' on his website. It's sold there by Northern.
It's more than I wanted to spend but I got to thinking that it's probably worth another $50 to $75+ to get a name brand triplex pump and be done with it.
I just turned 50 years old. Hopefully this will be the last pump I have to buy!
Any suggestions/comments/advice appreciated.
See: http://www.catpumps.com/pumps-direct-drive-pressure-washer.asp
It's about $300 from a variety of sources -- I usually buy through Amazon to help out my brother who has an online Amazon 'store' on his website. It's sold there by Northern.
It's more than I wanted to spend but I got to thinking that it's probably worth another $50 to $75+ to get a name brand triplex pump and be done with it.
I just turned 50 years old. Hopefully this will be the last pump I have to buy!
Any suggestions/comments/advice appreciated.
sajohnson
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Just one last bump before I go ahead and buy the Cat pump.
Any thoughts or advice?
Thanks!
Any thoughts or advice?
Thanks!
honcho
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CAT triplex pumps are high quality and will be worthy of your Honda GX engine. Make sure you measure the shaft and compare specs of the pump to make sure it's compatible both with the shaft and bolt mounting pattern.
If you live in a climate where temps drop below freezing and store your PW in an unheated area, make sure you winterize it before putting it away otherwise frozen water will quickly damage the pump.
If you live in a climate where temps drop below freezing and store your PW in an unheated area, make sure you winterize it before putting it away otherwise frozen water will quickly damage the pump.
sajohnson
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Thanks for the advice Honcho.
I think the Cat pump is almost certainly overkill for my application, but I didn't see anything decent for significantly less $$.
The axial pump the local place wanted to sell me was about $260.
I think the Cat pump is almost certainly overkill for my application, but I didn't see anything decent for significantly less $$.
The axial pump the local place wanted to sell me was about $260.
fatfillup
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Wow, my name as been brought up here
Quick direct drive pump info. First honcho and AZ (I think) gave good advice.
Avoid axial pumps at all costs. They do not hold up. I am really surprised that McHenry's recommended an axial pump. They are a competitor and friends of mine. Couple of years back, they wouldn't have touched an axial pump.
Cat pumps are thought to be the best, BUT, it depends on which line of cats you are talking about. Cat's industrial, belt driven, slow spinning pumps are great and probably the best, but they are EXPENSIVE and parts are 2 to 3 times the cost of every body else. That said, their direct drives are certainly ok.
I sell more AR direct drive pumps then anything else and have good luck with them. I also service a number of machines with General EZ pumps and have seen them hold up for a long time. .
What is most important is to follow the list of do's and don'ts I posted here a while back. Try the search for pressure washers.
Also, I am not interested in selling pumps through the mail, I only do business locally.
Sorry I didn't see this earlier, but I don't stop here as much as I used to.
Feel free to PM me, but be patient
Quick direct drive pump info. First honcho and AZ (I think) gave good advice.
Avoid axial pumps at all costs. They do not hold up. I am really surprised that McHenry's recommended an axial pump. They are a competitor and friends of mine. Couple of years back, they wouldn't have touched an axial pump.
Cat pumps are thought to be the best, BUT, it depends on which line of cats you are talking about. Cat's industrial, belt driven, slow spinning pumps are great and probably the best, but they are EXPENSIVE and parts are 2 to 3 times the cost of every body else. That said, their direct drives are certainly ok.
I sell more AR direct drive pumps then anything else and have good luck with them. I also service a number of machines with General EZ pumps and have seen them hold up for a long time. .
What is most important is to follow the list of do's and don'ts I posted here a while back. Try the search for pressure washers.
Also, I am not interested in selling pumps through the mail, I only do business locally.
Sorry I didn't see this earlier, but I don't stop here as much as I used to.
Feel free to PM me, but be patient
sajohnson
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Thanks for the advice fatfillup.
I don't have time right now, but I'll search for your 'do's and don'ts' and get back to you before I order.
Do you happen to sell the pump I mentioned -- Cat model #3DNX25GSI?
I don't have time right now, but I'll search for your 'do's and don'ts' and get back to you before I order.
Do you happen to sell the pump I mentioned -- Cat model #3DNX25GSI?
Az Scooter
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I am sorry I did not respond. I didn't see the specific request. I did send you a pm. There are other distributors that will sell via the internet for pressure washer parts, and if you are able to get it through amazon, so much the better. From what I saw of the pump you listed, the spec's are decent, but it will be over what I would guess would be appropriate to your motor, unless you only get the smallest version of that pump.
fatfillup
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Yes I have sold that pump, don't have a lot of time on any I have sold. Should be a good pump for homeowner use. I can sell you one, but truthfully, you will do better online. I am a full service dealer who sells to folks that need full service and are willing to pay a little more for that service. I have no desire to compete with online resellers on price and they can't compete with me on service or experience. I'm thinking I get about $375 for that pump off the top of my head. Good luck!!