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dapekema

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Here is a mishmash of wrenches, most are Proto. With exception of the Professional XL combo wrench, I got the rest at a yard sale last weekend. All have at least one 9/16 opening, lol.

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Matco USA WCL186 (Bonney, 8.25")
Proto Professional 1218L (ca. Late 90s/early 00s, 10")
Proto Los Angeles 1218-L (9")
Proto Los Angeles 8161 shorty offset DBE (5.625")
Plomb Los Angeles 1130 DBE (7.25")
Any chance you'd want to sell the Proto Professional 1218L (ca. Late 90s/early 00s, 10") ? Thanks!
 

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As I alluded to last week, I have been encountering some good proto tool advertising. During my normal eBay scouring I happened upon this Proto Los Angeles pliers point of sale board - panel 32. I don’t pay eBay prices for these boards as most are priced over $100. But this seller had this board posted at a reasonable price. I ended up winning the auction for $83 shipped to my door! Not perfect but it is pretty nice. All prongs intact. Interesting that there is no company marking on the back. I was expecting to see “property of plomb tool company “ on the back as I have several Proto la boards with this writing but this one is emptyIMG_1340.jpegIMG_1341.jpeg
 

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^ The last Proto adjustables I bought were made by Western Forge. I sent one to Smokeshow. Not bad. They were not the "Clik-Stop" model, though... so I can't really speak to those.
For $10 bucks, I would definitely grab one of the 12-inchers.
 

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^ The last Proto adjustables I bought were made by Western Forge. I sent one to Smokeshow. Not bad. They were not the "Clik-Stop" model, though... so I can't really speak to those.
For $10 bucks, I would definitely grab one of the 12-inchers.
Hey! I actually used that adjustable a few days ago to tighten a shower head. It’s a pretty good adjustable. It’s mint condition so I’m gentle with it
 

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^ I thought those were fairly decent. Not sure what I did with the other one. Those were the last two Bowers had. Apparently aside from Snap-on, Western Forge was actually the last outfit making an adjustable here in country.
 
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^ Western Forge was in Colorado Springs!
KOAA News5 on Feb 19 2020 said:
KOAA News5 StaffPosted at 6:18 PM, Feb 19, 2020 and last updated 11:40 AM, Feb 20, 2020

COLORADO SPRINGS — A long time tool manufacturer in Colorado Springs is planning to shut its doors sometime this spring.

Western Forge, on Garden of the Gods Rd., announced they will close upon the completion of existing orders.

Michael Gross, with Ideal Industries Inc, said in a statement "the company says the major reason for the closure is the Western Forge facility made tools for other companies as well,
including Craftsman brand tools, until Sears sold that division almost four years ago and its manufacturing was moved offshore."

164 employees will receive severance packages including salary, health care and outplacement benefits provided they do not leave for another job before their separation date.

Western Forge, which has been in Colorado Springs for 54 years, is part of the ideal industries, which is consolidating its operations in the U.S.

Here is the full statement:

IDEAL INDUSTRIES, INC. is planning to close its Western Forge hand tool manufacturing facility and will be winding down production after they have fulfilled all current customer orders.
Western Forge’s 164 employees will receive severance packages including salary, health care and outplacement benefits provided they do not leave for another job before their separation
date. IDEAL will also provide access to job fairs to help employees find their next opportunity.

Western Forge, which has been in Colorado Springs for 54 years, is part of the ideal industries, which is consolidating its operations in the U.S.

The company remains committed to its “Made in America” position for SK Professional Tools, IDEAL Electrical tools and the other tool brands in its portfolio.
The company will consolidate manufacturing for some of its brands (e.g. SK Professional Tools) to its Sycamore, Illinois community, where they plan to add manufacturing positions.
There will be opportunities for relocation to other IDEAL facilities for Western Forge talent as part of the transition; those who qualify for positions will be given priority consideration.

The Western Forge facility made tools for other companies as well, including Craftsman brand tools, until Sears sold that division almost four years ago and its manufacturing was
moved offshore. IDEAL and its Western Forge employees tried to streamline operations and offset the loss of the Craftsman volume for years but were not able to offset the loss enough
to sustain the plant. The U.S. hand tool business overall has continued to shift largely to offshore manufacturing. IDEAL remains one of only three companies to manufacture the
majority of its tools in the United States.


"This was a long and carefully considered decision,” said IDEAL’s CEO Steve Henn. “Our Western Forge employees delivered high quality product and did everything we asked of them to help
us maintain the business. We just couldn’t survive the impact from the Craftsman move.” Attempts by IDEAL to sell the facility were unsuccessful.
 

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^ Stanley had a huge facility built, machines installed, staff hired, and then abandoned the project.

National Hand Tool was acquired by Stanley in 1986 and subsequently shut down. I have NO doubt National was cranking out product for Thorsen in Thorsen's last days, as well as many other manufacturers. (see photos here)

National / National Hand Tool, 12827 Valley Branch Lane, Dallas, TX / est. 1978 / acquired by Stanley 1986 / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/what-can-you-tell-me-about-national-hand-tool.325051/ /

The clincher for me is this baby - obviously a Kilness-patent design - manufactured long after the Kilness patent had expired. Branded as a Thorsen 77JCT. Only one I've ever seen:
 

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^ are those "JCT" or just "JC" ??

Those are without question the Kilness patent design. not a whit of difference internally as far as I could see. nothing at all like the Thorsen-designed units.
If you look at "American Forge" stuff (made right after Litton Industries acquired New Britain) you'll see the similarities. I'd put money on those having been made BY National Hand Tool in Dallas in Thorsen's waning days... which boggles the mind... if Thorsen was in dire straits financially, why were they outsourcing ratchets from National? Or am I missing something there? :headscrat
 

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I picked up a Proto 712-L adjustable click-stop 12” adjustable wrench yesterday for $10. It’s sitting next to my 10” Crescent for comparison. It’s pretty much brand new. The click-stop feature is interesting.

IMG_2443.jpeg IMG_2444.jpegIMG_2445.jpegAnd that’s both amongst my Blackhawk by Proto SAE combination wrench set and my Craftsman metric set.
 
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Fourcycle generously sent me a secret Santa package. This nice 1/4 drive set box and bet’r grip driver were inside.
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^ I would have thought the shaft on that screwdriver would clean up better, but it appears it's not chrome or nickel plated, which I found rather odd. Are they all like that - with that dull, almost "cad" type finish?
 

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^ I would have thought the shaft on that screwdriver would clean up better, but it appears it's not chrome or nickel plated, which I found rather odd. Are they all like that - with that dull, almost "cad" type finish?
Oh sorry I forgot to mention that. The finish is not like any other bet’r grip driver I have. It appears to be cadmium plated! I’m leave it just the way it is ! As you can see this is the only bet’r grip with that finish. Here’s a wood handle Proto la with the same finish. Oddly the same size Phillips #1
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Hmm... not a clue... from comments I overhead, the guy was just one of the workers at the smelter. The tools they had (such as they were) were all odds-and-ends, most of which had spray paint all over them.
 

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And just to make it interesting for everybody.
Given the rarity, the price is probably not that bad... $475
Douglassville PA

I hope one of us gets it!!!Proto$475DouglassvillePA_FM.jpg

... No relation to the seller
Looks to be in decent shape but I think the seller may be sitting on it for a while at that price for a table top mfd era version.
 
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