Quartz full broadcast vs chips to rejection

[Jsf721]

What is the difference. I have samples of both.

If you saw my other post I'm having a problem caused by my original installer not potting the correct vapor barrier. /primer.

I'd like to get this right this time around.

Thanks

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Quartz or "sand" is a very tough ingredient in a flooring system and is typically utilized where abusive or frequent vehicle traffic is the norm. It requires more knowledge, equipment and $$$ to do correctly. Many of our installers use for fire-house/auto-service floors. Unless you are expecting fork-lifts or fire-trucks, this is way overkill for a residential garage.

Vinyl flake floors are typically used for less abusive traffic and more decorative reasons. This is the work-horse for residential garage floors. Still used commercially but less vehicle traffic, more pedestrian applications (bathrooms, stadium concourses, public places, super-markets, etc...)

Hope this helps.

 

[ripkinc]

What are the extra steps for quartz? I really like the reviews from Legacy epoxy, but want the hardest best floor possible. I have found quartz is the best but want to know the real differences in application. I am new to actually putting it down but feel I can do most of the tasks. I have a few friends that can help too.
(Yes im new posting here but have read up on epoxya lot here over the last 6 months in prep for my new house and I know its hard to beat legacys products)

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Here is a brief summary
Step 1: Grind floor
Step 2: Address cracks/joints, bug-holes, etc...
Step 3: Apply a penetrating primer (although most pros-skip this step)
Step 4: Apply 100% solids epoxy, broadcast to rejection
Step 5: Remove excess, light grind knocking down high spots
Step 6: Apply 100% solids epoxy , broadcast to rejection
Step 7: Remove excess
Step 8: Apply 100% solids epoxy pulling tight using flat squeegee
Step 9: Optional- coat with aliphatic urethane, polyurea or polyaspartic

This is a tremendous floor system that the next owner of your home will pass on to his grandchildren. Email or call us tomorrow if you need further help/pricing etc...

 

[mnavillus]

the steps listed above are spot on!......consider this as well!

....If its durability and impact resistance your after, then quartz will have an advantage over the full flake system,however quartz is not as forgiving and will show any surface irregularities, have a tendency towards collectedly more debris on the surface....

good luck!

 

[Garage Flooring]

What is the difference. I have samples of both.

If you saw my other post I'm having a problem caused by my original installer not potting the correct vapor barrier. /primer.

I'd like to get this right this time around.

Thanks

Full broadcast quartz is definitely more expense and harder to do. 12ozd did a really nice job on his project and he did a few things that saved him some money. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=290925

If you are just doing it for aesthetics, 1/8" flake looks awesome. Any full broadcast job requires a lot more attention to detail. You really want to make sure you get everything even and scrape off any extra.

 

[ripkinc]

Thanks Justin for the link, thats about what I want to do

 

[Jsf721]

Will a quarts full broadcast floor be more moisture tolerant? Cant see anything ozzing up through that?

I have been doing a lot reading. There is a rubberized primer / base coat that is suppose to be really incredible. It is called Elast-o-coat. It has something like 150% elongation and plugs the all the holes. From what I understand from the company it will be the best base coat for any epoxy or quartz floor.

I feel so helpless as my floor oozes, I really thought that a professional would do the right things and know better than me. I did my homework, I checked references, and I went over the process. Did the moisture test. Just missed the primer part until now. I will do my best to share what I am learning reading the net with others. But I am afraid I telling anyone I have figured it out because my floor was great for almost 2 years!

its frustrating. I even considered just putting tile (interlocking over the epoxy. The oozing is minor. Wonter if those things breath enough to allow it to evaporate?

Right now, my plan is get the core done, talk to Fernando after were get results and see what he thinks about the primer I found. I need to do this for the last time.-this time.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Moisture issues can plague any system out there.
Moisture testing is the best defense and using a Moisture Vapor Barrier Coating is a good way to help stem issues.

If you are working with Fernando, he will steer you in the right direction!

 

[Garage Flooring]

Will a quarts full broadcast floor be more moisture tolerant? Cant see anything ozzing up through that?

I have been doing a lot reading. There is a rubberized primer / base coat that is suppose to be really incredible. It is called Elast-o-coat. It has something like 150% elongation and plugs the all the holes. From what I understand from the company it will be the best base coat for any epoxy or quartz floor.

I feel so helpless as my floor oozes, I really thought that a professional would do the right things and know better than me. I did my homework, I checked references, and I went over the process. Did the moisture test. Just missed the primer part until now. I will do my best to share what I am learning reading the net with others. But I am afraid I telling anyone I have figured it out because my floor was great for almost 2 years!

its frustrating. I even considered just putting tile (interlocking over the epoxy. The oozing is minor. Wonter if those things breath enough to allow it to evaporate?

Right now, my plan is get the core done, talk to Fernando after were get results and see what he thinks about the primer I found. I need to do this for the last time.-this time.

Moisture and epoxy do not get along real well. Its not a question of getting through the epoxy. It will cause the system to fail from the ground up.

An epoxy moisture barrier CAN be a GREAT option, if your floor falls within specifications. A lot of products out their make it difficult to find these specs. We put the basics above the pricing here http://www.garageflooringllc.com/vapor-barrier/ and go into great detail beyond that. You'll find the guys on the forum publish that information as well.