Question on Trenching and Materials

[PCustoms]

There will be a 2 burner Empava induction cooktop which draws 1800 watts @120v, a small Vissani fridge that draws less than 1 amp,split draws less than 8 amps,lighting is negligible, fan on composting toilet. Perhaps a GE Profile heat pump washer/dryer combination unit (11 amps@120v). The water heater is all that is left to figure out.Is anyone aware of a small heat pump water heater? 40 gallon way too big.

Have you considered propane?

 

[Bert_]

Is it ok to run 2-2-4-6 instead of 2-2-2-4?

I almost never run a full size neutral.

 

[Mr onetwo]

Have you considered propane?

Trying not to, but it is a possibility. I plan on some solar in the future I don' want to be too dependent on propane. Will be burning some wood also.

 

[Mr onetwo]

could I run individual runs of XHHW-2 in 1-1-2-4 configuration and be covered?

 

[PCustoms]

could I run individual runs of XHHW-2 in 1-1-2-4 configuration and be covered?

In proper conduit, yes.

 

[Bert_]

could I run individual runs of XHHW-2 in 1-1-2-4 configuration and be covered?

You can and it's a good option.

But unless it has a USE rating you will need actual electrical conduit.

 

[Mr onetwo]

Interesting the...1-1-2-4 XHHW-2 is $703.30 delivered and 2-2-2-4 MHF is $819.55 @Nassau. Trying to find a local source for DB60 duct.

 

[PCustoms]

Interesting the...1-1-2-4 XHHW-2 is $703.30 delivered and 2-2-2-4 MHF is $819.55 @Nassau. Trying to find a local source for DB60 duct.

+$100 for shipping to ME.

2 years ago the local supply house beet online prices. There's several in Maine.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

wire and cable your way often has discount codes as well. if you are a new subscriber theyll send you a 5% discount code

 

[Innovate1]

DB60 is new to me... Looks to be PVC and available down to 2". What's the advantage over Sch 40 PVC? It's 20' pcs (at least where I found it) so less joints. Is it cheaper? Can you use the same end fittings?

 

[dave*99]

I learned some interesting things about Carlon DB60 here.

https://carlonsales.com/techinfo/faqs/FAQ-PC_Telephone_Duct.pdf

 

[Innovate1]

I learned some interesting things about Carlon DB60 here.

https://carlonsales.com/techinfo/faqs/FAQ-PC_Telephone_Duct.pdf

Looks like the main differences are thinning and not approved for most situations people here need conduit for here. It can be used for protection of direct burial cable that doesn't require conduit. For the OP this could be used if they aren't worried about inspections but might be just as cheap to use the readily available sch 40 stuff.

 

[mm08822]

Interesting the...1-1-2-4 XHHW-2 is $703.30 delivered and 2-2-2-4 MHF is $819.55 @Nassau. Trying to find a local source for DB60 duct.

Unless you are putting the xhhw-2 conductors in schedule 40 conduit, you can only use MHF or USE type conductors for direct burial.

 

[Mr onetwo]

Wire&Cable is $679.21 with discounts and tax. Disadvantage is only available in black...not really a big deal.Nassau has reached out and offered a similar discount also. I am checking WESCO and Gilman today.No one carries DB60 in Maine that I can find....so that option is dead. 1 1/2" sch40 conduit and XHHW-2 it is.

 

[PCustoms]

Wire&Cable is $679.21 with discounts and tax. Disadvantage is only available in black...not really a big deal.Nassau has reached out and offered a similar discount also. I am checking WESCO and Gilman today.No one carries DB60 in Maine that I can find....so that option is dead. 1 1/2" sch40 conduit and XHHW-2 it is.

I bet Gilman is cheaper.

Have them quote the PVC too.

 

[Mr onetwo]

I will have my buddy (master sparky) do it. Going to investigate some fiber also.

 

[PCustoms]

I will have my buddy (master sparky) do it. Going to investigate some fiber also.

If your buddy is a master sparky, what are you doing asking a bunch of strangers online?

 

[Mr onetwo]

I don't like to bother him...he's old and cranky like me I just use his account with his permission of course.

 

[Mr onetwo]

You all aren't strangers....just GJ brothers I haven't met yet

 

[dave*99]

You all aren't strangers....just GJ brothers I haven't met yet

Make no mistake, many of us are old and cranky too.

 

[PCustoms]

Make no mistake, many of us are old and cranky too.

We aren't all old.

 

[acer66]

We aren't all old.

Yeah but being cranky is the more important part anyway.