Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT Quonset Hut Garage Build
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Workspaces between 705 and 1200 squarefeet.
jon72vega
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dfiler2
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Looks great, is that 77 the inside temp? Don't be alarmed if it takes a long time to bring the floor up to temp. How many lbs of pressure are you keeping on the system?
Ok, so couple of things, no, slab temp sensor is measuring 85 degrees. The air temp 27 degrees in hut today. So, second, I forgot to install the pressure gauge. So I've been trying to decide if it's worth adding it. Thoughts?
Dlifer2, should I put one in?
And, the taco pump is running non-stop. Should I put this on a timer? Have it run for certain period then off? I don't think it will be an issue when I get the floor warmer but right now it just keeps running.
Next I'm hoping to have the propane regulator and the line inside the barn installed tomorrow.
Dlifer2, should I put one in?
And, the taco pump is running non-stop. Should I put this on a timer? Have it run for certain period then off? I don't think it will be an issue when I get the floor warmer but right now it just keeps running.
Next I'm hoping to have the propane regulator and the line inside the barn installed tomorrow.
sean Buick 76
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It has been a long time since I had a chance to look at your postings and wow it is coming along awesome!!! Nice work!!! Amazing job all around! Nice addition too!
Thanks. Funny the projects that take us away from projects.
Update: today I added a timer and set it for 30min on 30 off. See if that helps. Water heater was just running to run and couldn't keep up. Turning it on for 30 and then manually off for 30 heated the floor up much faster. I also got the gas line all plumbed. And the regulator on. Now I just need to hook up the propane.
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Today I got the gas working on the water heater. And I changed the timer to 15 on and 45 min off. My floor is staying the same temp. It's going to get cold this weekend and I going to get to see if the floor temp stays the same. I plan to keep working the timer back 15 min at a time until I see the floor temp dip. So with the gas tankless water heater working, I'm gonna give it a weekend to see how it does on 15/45. Also planning to rewrite the timer and put in a proper box.
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jbmatth
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Glad you have things working your way now on the floor heat, it would sure be nice to have on days like today.
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bcoke
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Great job on the heat ,I have radient floor heat in my shop and house............I live in south half of Vermont so we have about the same weather........you can play with settings until you are happy but remember radient takes a long time to heat all the "masses " in the space so I find unless you are not going to be useing the shop for an extendered time [a week or so] than SET IT AND FORGET IT...........both ups and down ude more enegry in my opinion......enjoy.......bobbycoke
That's the plan, set it and forget it. But unfortunately, I have been having issues with my instant water heater. It fires and then stops after about 3 seconds. I called and emailed the company Marey, they've been zero help. I have recourse with Amazon, I'm going to return it for a better model.
jbmatth
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Dwysywd,
One possible cause for the water heater is it isn't getting enough flow to stay on, I know I've had that issue in the past when my filter plugs. Something to look into at least.
JB
One possible cause for the water heater is it isn't getting enough flow to stay on, I know I've had that issue in the past when my filter plugs. Something to look into at least.
JB
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^^^^
What JB said.
What JB said.
Water flow? The fluid seems to be flowing fine. But I will check it all again. When I run the electric water heater it works and everything is on the same closed system. There is a dial on the front, that controls water flow, if I turn it down the system fires and then shuts off. If I turn the water flow up, the system doesn't fire.
I ordered a brand new one from Amazon, they are willing to replace it for free. I will try that and if I'm still having issues I'm just going to use a different brand. In the mean time, I will look closer at the flow issue.
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Spot on! So it wasn't that there wasn't enough flow... There was TOO MUCH flow. I was circulating 8 gal per min and the unit calls for 3.2 gal per min as the MAX gpm. That's when I realized I could dial down the water flow and it would slow my gpm. So it's working now. I am Looking at the taco circulation pump to see if I can slow the water flow. But for now it seems to be working. I will keep you updated. I have a few "finished" photos to post. But the water temp was running 150 degree-ish and that's gonna be sufficient for my needs.
Next part is to figure out if my 110v water heater can be run off solar or not. I have a commercial Webasto 12v to 110v inverter. I want to see if I can collect and run enough power off grid to run the unit.
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jbmatth
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That is great news, what are your thoughts on the overall feeling of the in floor heat?
Thanks,
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Finallygotit
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Sweet! 
Thoughts overall is I am 100% sure it's working, cause on Tuesday I parked my truck full of snow and Wednesday morning it was completely clean and there was no water on the floor. Makes me want to cut the concrete out of my garage I park in and replace pour with heat. LoL.
I have no real Insullation in the barn right now. I am installing some reflective bubble material to increase the reflective heat, but overall retention won't happen until this spring when I spray foam the barn. Couple of guys on this forum only use the reflective bubble and swear by it but I am spray foaming and I've committed to that.
Love the fact that I have it all working. Now the next project this reflective material. Pictures to come.
jbmatth
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Thank you for the insight, I've really been considering it if I ever build another shop to work in.
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Although I don't have it, I agree with Walt. Everyone I know who has had that stuff installed swears by it.
YMMV
kj_mustang
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With no heat on, mine will hold the temperature at least 20 degrees above the outside temperature. Spray foamed walls and roof.
So I guess you were right. It's all about the flow. I'm still having flow issues. I called taco and asked them about why I was still having issues. It's still not firing at regular intervals. The guy said my head pressure wasn't enough. LoL. This is giving me plenty of "head pressure!" So I ordered a taco accu-flo which will allow me to manually adjust my head pressure. I will keep you posted. I won't have it until next week.
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I do not see a "Drip Leg / Sendiment Trap" on the fuel/gas line, also a fuel shut off valve within six feet of the device.
Both possibly code requirements and fire Insurance requirements .
Got to keep the toys insured.
Both possibly code requirements and fire Insurance requirements .
Got to keep the toys insured.
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I do not see a "Drip Leg / Sendiment Trap" on the fuel/gas line, also a fuel shut off valve within six feet of the device.
Both possibly code requirements and fire Insurance requirements .
Got to keep the toys insured.
The leg drip isn't required, only recommended. I know this because when you install flex pipe it is not required and the inspector told me that it's only recommended.
And yes, I do have a shut off within 6'. It's left of the sink and the way I took the photos, it's hard to see.
My ****** issue is that the floor doesn't seem to fire at regular intervals. I don't really understand why but as soon as the head pressure accu-flo arrives it should clear up some issues O
jbmatth
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I have my fingers crossed you can get it figured out, I'm sure it is very frustrating. Is it at least keeping the place warm for you?
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OK, question. Have you tried playing with the temperature setting on the water heater? Just a reach but you never know.
Nope I have it all turned off until the final piece comes in. Tech support guy from Marey told me today that I needed 8psi of pressure. That's all great...if I had installed the pressure gauge. LoL. So, when I get the pressure accu-flo valve from Taco, I will ALSO install the pressure gauge. I am thinking this could be the issue. With all the bleeding of air, my pressure tank isn't doing its job and I need to increase the pressure with the air valve.
Yeah, so the only function the 110v water heater plays is giving me a solar option once I buy the stuff. And I have been tinkering with the tankless water heater settings too, including the flow and pressure valves that are internal, per the tech support guy's suggestions.
86turbodsl
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A note for your pump - you need to re-mount that with the pump axis of rotation horizontal not vertical. That pump won't last mounted in that orientation. It's in the design notes somewhere.
Ok, what am I missing, that is horizontal, liquid passes from left to right, last time I checked, that's horizontal. The whole reason it's mounted that way is because the notes say horizontal. So help me understand how mounting the whole pump vertically means horizontal? I don't understand.
86turbodsl
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Your fluid flow is horizontal, but your motor shaft is vertical.
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Also, on a separate note, when I FINALLY got a hold of the tech support people at Marey, the water heater needs 8psi to operate. I think whilst bleeding my air, I let all the damn pressure out of my system. Thus the need to add a pressure gauge to keep that top of mind and accurate.
Unruh
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This is great. I’ve said before that I grew up in Eastern Montana and wheat country. Quansets like this were really only used for storing $250,000 Combines that got driven two months out of the year. Seeing some of these on GJ is making me rethink them! Love your build.